Tier X CVs almost dissapeared.....

[gorgutzer]

I have been playing the weekend and the diference between now and before the path is enormous, i cant barely search a fast game even in prime time...... minimum 5 or 6 mins of waitt and most of the times i face the same cv guy which was actually waiting more than 5 minutes trying to DODGE me............ so i can barely play 1 game each 30 mins and praying alot.... FIX CVS OR FIX MM but i want play, atleast before the nerfs there were much more people playing cvs.

I just played only 5 GAMES from 9 pm to 12pm.

[Vogel]

Didn't know we had a billboard class in WoWs, so no wonder you can't get a match

[FloRead]

I empathize. My wait on the Midway was so long, I just left the queue. Since the patch, I only got 1 game in the Midway.

 

However, I noticed a huge shift in the T9/10 meta. Shimakazes are the biggest banes of everyone's life now. No planes to spot them.

[Tyrendian89]

so there you go IJN DDs there's your buff...

 

[gorgutzer]

Time to change all the antiair upgrades of my highest bbs. 3 games in montana 1 min of search and 0 cvs.

[Eternus_Damnatio]

Makes me laugh because they are not the overpowered death machines now. And they have to work for their damage and take skill to use they are less appealing to the majority.

[Reyte]

Do u really complain about getting fair matchups? How many people actually ve a tier 10 cv yet? Gow often where t9 and t8 dragged in t10 battles so u had an easy time? If u dont like the waiting time go for t8 or t9. 

[Elenortirion]

Do u really complain about getting fair matchups? How many people actually ve a tier 10 cv yet? Gow often where t9 and t8 dragged in t10 battles so u had an easy time? If u dont like the waiting time go for t8 or t9. 

 

he meant that the only match he finds he's placed against the guy who waited all this time on purpose of not being in match with him

 

a.k.a. that in the prime time there was only two players with CV that could land on tX battle looking for a match with said CV...

 

[i'm sooo happy right now that I stuck with everything at tV....]

[uocat]

It is not about nerf or buff. It is only because of the magical Dogfight expert.

[anonym_gCiyicUsNYGl]

gorgutzer can u play tirpitz yet ?

[Vogel]

I guess the economy change (don't know if it was a stealth-change) so that you net lower XP/possibly credits for damage has something to do with it as well. I don't understand why they don't just give tier bonus coefficient to CV VS CV gameplay and balance the planes accordingly?

[TheJezna]

Makes me laugh because they are not the overpowered death machines now. And they have to work for their damage and take skill to use they are less appealing to the majority.

 

It seriously does say something about how poorly CV's are implemented. Yes, while they where godlike powerhouses plenty of people liked playing them. Of course, everyone said it was because they really loved playing them. But now, when they are a bit toned down (still performing better then other classes) people are abandoning the utterly dull gameplay CV play is, because in reality, they where all there for the profit. Don't remember where I read it, but apparently WG themselves realized this and said CV's need to give more XP and creds, otherwise no one would play them.

 

So we have a class that is unfunny to play and unfunny to be the victim of which exists primarily to force other players to bunch up into what someone at WG considers a fleet. Great design right there.

[SunSkaRe]

Ahh CV's... each patch brings more and more joy to it...

 

Of course that they had to be nerfed cause they are so easy and OP compared to every other class... at worse you only have to be controling your CV to dodge enemy torps and shells while at same time controling fighters to protect your team and at same time controling the bombers to make their runs... its a lot easier then playing a BB and throw shells at enemy (god forbid to look at minimap at same time and see enemy planes coming and think "gee maybe I should start manouvering")

 

So yeah lets increase torpedo aim distance... increase torpedo drop distance... reduce torpedos speed... reduce torpedo damage (that should help everyone that dont have a minimap to take less hits)

Didnt mind it much...

 

Lets also give everything defensive AA and fighter planes...

Also didnt bother with it...

 

But something is missing... ah yeah lets also give the weaker fighter planes increased bonus when fighting stronger ones. The weaker they are the higher the bonus (cause thats logic... langley planes should totally beat midway's cause poor things would go against bullying rules otherwise)

What possible logic could this have... the stronger you are the weaker you are... lol

 

Still that would be too easy... so lets also make planes not doing what they are told... you tell them to go escort a friendly BB and they cancel it and go escort their own CV instead...

You tell them to cancel a drop and they just drop it anyway...

Tell them to drop torpedos and they go in circles even though they are aligned... Tell them to land and away they go flying for miles till they actually aknowledge the order...

 

And the also logic new features... if you tell fighters to escort some ship they fly so far away from it that if enemy planes attack that ship, they can drop go away and your planes wont even be capable of intercepting...

And now fighter must always engage enemy fighters cause its automatic... even if you dont want to attack enemy fighters, you must... CV rules say so...

 

 

So why would anyone bother to play CV? Well... maybe people dont... thats why everytime you click battle from tier 7 upwards each 8 or 9 games out of 10 there are no CV's

(And no... I dont like it even if I'm playing DD or cruiser... cause its boring...)

 

And all cause its too hard to multitask looking at target and looking at minimap... while OP  CV's again only have to micro manage up to 8 squads plus the ship itself plus the awareness of the entire map... lol

 

 

[AgarwaenME]

Makes me laugh because they are not the overpowered death machines now. And they have to work for their damage and take skill to use they are less appealing to the majority.

 

Then you should check the rather large threads with BBs crying about how their no-skill machines can't oneshot CAs left and right anymore. And they already had it easy to begin with.

[FloRead]

I can live with the nerfs to the CVs. I can't stand queuing for 20-30 mins plus just for a game. 

 

Don't mind really. CVs have had their day. Now to watch the BB mafia suffer endless streams of torpedoes with nobody to scout for them. 

[Raskeria]

It was fun destroying you Mr " I alt tabbed"

 

[Vogel]

Well, I don't know about that. But making it more of a support class with specialised abilities instead of a pure damage dealer could make them more fun:

Recon planes: Will hoover over an area if you activate  a skill for X seconds. Will grant XP bonus to both you and the people who shoot at the ships inside the sector. Recon planes can't be destroyed when in photographic recon mode. IRL reasoning: propaganda boost when producing pictures of wounded warship.

Scout plane: The only plane that can spot torpedoes and perhaps e the only plane that can spot ships(?), but at the same time have a larger spotting range than current planes. Will be only one in a squadron, and somewhat durable, but not so durable that you can hoover above a D indefinitely to keep her spotted. Might be combined with recon plane

Top&dive bomber: Less damage, but fly quicker and turn slower. DB are much more accurate. Reduce the overall squadrons, but make them better as they tier up instead.

Again, don't know if this is feasible or my ideas are bad; I decided not to continue with CVs. But making them a skill support class seems to me to be a good idea, as long as they are fun to play.

Or we could just increase the plane turning speed as the planes go faster, and much of the OPness would be fixed. No longer outturning BBs and CAs that easily and then proceeding to land torps along the hull.

[Aerroon]

CVs are so OP people got bored of playing them, duh.

[GeneralRushHour]

I guess from here on it will be a lot harder for CV players to hit stuff that 99.9% of the time cant hit you back. I´m sure the good players will manage though.. 

[FloRead]

 

I guess from here on it will be a lot harder for CV players to hit stuff that 99.9% of the time cant hit you back. I´m sure the good players will manage though.. 

People are failing hard at reading comprehension. The issue is not us being unable to cope with nerfs. It is those of us CV players who can live with the nerfs just fine not being able to get a game because of the new hard enforced mirror matchmaking. There is no 2nd CV out there to put in the other team just so I can play!

 

In future, if BBs ever get hard enforced mirror matchmaking, forgive my lack of tears for BBs then.

[Aerroon]

 

People are failing hard at reading comprehension. The issue is not us being unable to cope with nerfs. It is those of us CV players who can live with the nerfs just fine not being able to get a game because of the new hard enforced mirror matchmaking. There is no 2nd CV out there to put in the other team just so I can play!

 

In future, if BBs ever get hard enforced mirror matchmaking, forgive my lack of tears for BBs then.

 

Shh, he doesn't understand that there are so few CV players out there. In his mind CVs are so OP there's a million of them. The reason why CVs are "so powerful", in his eyes, is that all the masses that play CVs didn't like them being nerfed.

[gorgutzer]

 

Shh, he doesn't understand that there are so few CV players out there. In his mind CVs are so OP there's a million of them. The reason why CVs are "so powerful", in his eyes, is that all the masses that play CVs didn't like them being nerfed.

 

Almost 1 hour of search and didnt even FOUND 1another tier X cv. I could see manyy bbs and cruisers and dds Searching but hey 0 CVS for 1 hour !!!!.

[GeneralRushHour]

 

Shh, he doesn't understand that there are so few CV players out there. In his mind CVs are so OP there's a million of them. The reason why CVs are "so powerful", in his eyes, is that all the masses that play CVs didn't like them being nerfed.

 

There´s so few of them because most people prefer non RTS play. Now with nerfs all the people who played them only for the stat-pad will leave as well leaving a core of CV players the genuinely enjoy the experience despite recent nerfs. 

 

And if my memory serves me right, i think the majority of people that wanted mirrored CV was CV players themselves because they realized very quickly a Tier 8 CV vs a TierX CV back then was not the same as a North Carolina going up against a Montana. 

 

 

 

 

[Vogel]

Is the power-gap between T9/T10 CV that huge? If not, perhaps mirrored MM should go down a tier if it takes too long.

 

BTW, I thought the problem was tht few players are playing CVs due to the recent balance changes (not nerfs), and that's the main issue? It doesn't seem like T10 are that well populated ATM, at least based on the screenshot above

[Kenliero]

Is the power-gap between T9/T10 CV that huge? If not, perhaps mirrored MM should go down a tier if it takes too long.

 

BTW, I thought the problem was tht few players are playing CVs due to the recent balance changes (not nerfs), and that's the main issue? It doesn't seem like T10 are that well populated ATM, at least based on the screenshot above

 

The reason I haven't played Lexi for a while, is because playing it is so annoying nowadays... Planes don't do what you tell them to do. They just go stupid circles. WG broke them completely few patches ago. It doesn't matter when you give them orders, they just bug and go circles anyway and you are like "wtf are they doing!!! Whyyyyyy???"