karlsruhe is still a rubbish after update

[TheDarkUnicorn]

nothing get changed

[Pastaiolo]

Something was changed about it. If the balance team thinks they need to change it more, they will. No big deal.

[Kluele_SophiNet]

They just don't realize what makes this ship unplayable.

 

So as I said before, they should replace it with Emden(1925), but not doing this meaningless changes to its data.

[Admiral_noodle]

I agree. But don't forget changes have a lead time. Material buffs to Karl would never have got into 0.5.1

[chaosrealm93]

nothing get changed

 

you cna only polish a turd so much......

 

but hey, just get your elite ship to farm enough creds to get the kone

[TheDarkUnicorn]

 

you cna only polish a turd so much......

 

but hey, just get your elite ship to farm enough creds to get the kone

 

r u actually speaking english??

[Abonimus]

Dono feels like its even worse after the update.

One shell hit me and EVERYTHING exploded. Three cannons, engine, torpedos ... Every single hit i take the engine is dead. Maybe they improved the engine protection x3 from zero? 

Second battle i get one shotted "Detonation"

[EsaTuunanen]

Second battle i get one shotted "Detonation"

Don't feel special.

I've twice detonated Königsberg with 130mm Soviet DD HE.

 

Anyway when heavier class ship gives you good hit any cruiser or DD can die from single salvo without even detonation.

[Micromagos]

I really like it now, have been repeatedly citadeling furutakas and kongisburgs. Also have gotten several pens on upgraded Kongos couldn't do any of that before.

[Abonimus]

Don't feel special.

I've twice detonated Königsberg with 130mm Soviet DD HE.

 

Anyway when heavier class ship gives you good hit any cruiser or DD can die from single salvo without even detonation.

 

It was good MMing i was the "top tier" and i got hit by a random low level BB...

 

Also just exit a battle in which i kept losing 2-3 cannons per shot. 

 

The ship definitely feels weaker then it was!

[EsaTuunanen]

It was good MMing i was the "top tier" and i got hit by a random low level BB...

Guns of any BB can easily penetrate any cruiser.

Cruiser armor simply isn't up to the job of stopping any higher caliber shells.

[Admiral_noodle]

I really like it now, have been repeatedly citadeling furutakas and kongisburgs. Also have gotten several pens on upgraded Kongos couldn't do any of that before.

 

I believe all the German AP got a buff (citation needed). I know Koenigsberg was a joy to play today. 

[bismark121]

 

I believe all the German AP got a buff yes i was stated in the patch notes (find it your self if you're that desperate) that the ap pen was recalculated 

 

[celeb2k]

Karlsruhe is a crap,  Slow, maneuverability like BB,  less HP, less range, less ROF, less  HE dmg, less fire chance than it's competitors Phoenix and Kuma.  On the top of that crazy chance to be on fire.  Had 3 games in row with 3 fires at once.  Never had such a fireship, just like paper sprayed with petrol.

[doktoj]

Dresden (The Tier 2 !) owns the Karlsruhe just because it have more DPM. Unbelievable ! xD 

 

it really needs a big buff ! it is a pain to use this ship...

[Verdius]

Karlsruhe is a crap,  Slow, maneuverability like BB,  less HP, less range, less ROF, less  HE dmg, less fire chance than it's competitors Phoenix and Kuma.  On the top of that crazy chance to be on fire.  Had 3 games in row with 3 fires at once.  Never had such a fireship, just like paper sprayed with petrol.

 

You forgot its tissue paper engine, long shell travel time and non existent AA

[svadilfari]

yea the karl is a truly useless crap. just gonna freexp myway through it. i cant play another 10000xp in this piece of shat

[Genjurooo]

WG fix it already in some minipatch.

[Tyrendian89]

thing is, what IS actually needed to make her good? Imo the Karlsruhe is inferior to her competitors (Kuma and Phoenix, which are both very fine ships for their tier) in pretty much every single respect. Let's see...

Guns? probably worst, especially with the strange placement and lack of usable HE shells

Torpedoes? worst.

Speed? worst by a country mile. That thing is slower than a Myogi iirc.

Survivability? probably worst as well.

 

I really don't see a niche for her, or any redeeming qualities...

 

[Jagdpants_666]

I doubt I'm alone in having the Karlsruhe getting the "honour" of being the first ship I have spent a significant amount of free XP to just get it the hell over with. It's garbage, plain and simple. I could live with being frail if I got good guns, or crap guns if it was able to take a bit of punishment, but I could simply not find ANY redeeming qualities whatsoever.

[Comrad_StaIin]

I've twice detonated Königsberg with 130mm Soviet DD HE.

What a surprise...

[red_eye1980]

Think she just needs a range buff.guns and torps.german CAs gonna be fraigile anyway.but she got accurate guns.not a massive stupid angle as well.dont care about aa. Gun angles are ok,just give her better range on torps and guns and maybe all will be good.just enough range and speed to outclass her peers,and let the armor and manouvrability be crap

 

[Tyrendian89]

for me it was the second ship I almost totally skipped, first being the Kawachi (which was a total skip, did give the Karlsruhe a chance but had zero fun at all so skipped to something I knew from the preview was amazingly fun for me to play)

[ScratxNeko]

for me it was the second ship I almost totally skipped, first being the Kawachi (which was a total skip, did give the Karlsruhe a chance but had zero fun at all so skipped to something I knew from the preview was amazingly fun for me to play)

 

Kawachi's actually fun if you play to the ship's strengths and avoid the pitfalls... mainly that you have to close in so it's a brawler ship.

 

Karlsruhe.... uh.... what strengths?

[Admiral_noodle]

 

Kawachi's actually fun if you play to the ship's strengths and avoid the pitfalls... mainly that you have to close in so it's a brawler ship.

 

Karlsruhe.... uh.... what strengths?

 

Shes an all rounder. Does everything with exceptional mediocrity.