Nuernburg is a joke. Heck everything in the German tree suffers. Everything.

[captain_lef]

well, i liked the nurnburg a lot, yes she's quite fragile but accurate af and very agile. you can run away and shoot at least 2/3 of your guns. then i upgraded to York. slow, big, inaccurate and i get rng like i'm sailing a BB

[CPL_Sivi]

well, i liked the nurnburg a lot, yes she's quite fragile but accurate af and very agile. you can run away and shoot at least 2/3 of your guns. then i upgraded to York. slow, big, inaccurate and i get rng like i'm sailing a BB

 

Yorck slow and big??? Most agile GE ca i played so far....

[captain_lef]

 

Yorck slow and big??? Most agile GE ca i played so far....

 

i have not yet unlocked the second hull, and it bothers me that those battles needed will be done in a ship performing like that. biggest problem though is still the inaccuracy  

[Ryuuteimaru]

well, i liked the nurnburg a lot, yes she's quite fragile but accurate af and very agile. you can run away and shoot at least 2/3 of your guns. then i upgraded to York. slow, big, inaccurate and i get rng like i'm sailing a BB

 

LOL Yorck is actually the same speed as the Nurnberg but turns faster so is over all more agile.

 

Edit:Gun accuracy isn't all that different either, the difference is how much lead you have to give as the Yorck guns have a lower shell velocity but thats player skill rather than a problem with the ship.

[captain_lef]

well you have a point about the shell velocity but i said that it feels inaccurate not that the shells behave abnormally. 

[Aotearas]

Yorck shell velocity is actually pretty good. Not quite as good as the Königsberg/Nürnberg 150mm guns, but still very good. It's just that the shells seem to lose a lot of energy in flight making for very high arcs which are NOT good for shelling ships with AP due to the angle at which those shells will hit a target (longrange works due to plunging fire, but between ~9 to 13km range the shells hit at such angles they will bounce almost all the time if they hit any even remotely armoured surface). Treat it as a HE spammer and the guns will perform extremely solid and anything under 9km distance that's giving you a nice target profile will be swiftly reminded of the german AP's damage output.

 

Stock Yorck turns a bit lazy, but stock Nürnberg wasn't better in that regard and after getting the hull upgrade (which I unlocked just today and played a couple rounds with) it's reasonably manouvreable. Bounced Pensacola AP volleys bow on like a boss, which was the big flaw of the Königsberg/Nürnberg: the guns are great, but the platform was just so flimsy you couldn't keep the guns alive and firing for long. Yorck is much tougher in that regard, making it superiour tier for tier compared to the Nürnberg.

 

I'm liking it.

[Solo_Wing_Potato]

Just unlocked the Yorck and finding it performs very well when played as Aotearas mentions, HE at ranges over 9k and AP under.  It has good range and I've found it nimble enough to avoid BB fire when played a little further out, when the battle progresses a bit you can push in and punish with very strong AP.

 

Enjoying it more than the Myoko at the minute, turret traverse that isn't crippling helps in that regard.

[Aotearas]

Dayum Yorck is a friggen beast! Didn't even have the range upgraded until today and now after 10 games it's easily my highest average damage tier VII cruiser and I can only see that trend improving now that I have more range to play with.

[samphilconlor]

Good lord, reading this, I will just stop playing the German cruisers for now. I'm at the Karlsruhe right now and am hating every second of playing it. If the higher tiers don't get any better I will not waste my time with this steaming pile of crapany longer. I don't understand what they where thinking while designing the German line...

 

 

The Konigsberg is awesome it's a keeper in my books I've had some great games in it to be honest if you get a T5 game it's borderline OP. Don't worry about this thread the Nuernburg is actually pretty decent I enjoyed it. Just unlocked the Yorck and that's nowhere near as bad as some make out the only bad point is the turret traverse. Apart form the Karl the line is actually pretty solid up to T7 from my experience. 

 

Just finished the grind on the Kirov and that was much much worse than any of the Germans, glorious guns when they work but that wasn't often enough and if the OP thinks the armour on the Nuernberg is bad he needs to play that. Lost count of the number of times I was citadelled through the bows or the stern. The entire ship was a broadside ;-)

[ApesTogetherStronK]

 

The Konigsberg is awesome it's a keeper in my books I've had some great games in it to be honest if you get a T5 game it's borderline OP. Don't worry about this thread the Nuernburg is actually pretty decent I enjoyed it. Just unlocked the Yorck and that's nowhere near as bad as some make out the only bad point is the turret traverse. Apart form the Karl the line is actually pretty solid up to T7 from my experience. 

 

Just finished the grind on the Kirov and that was much much worse than any of the Germans, glorious guns when they work but that wasn't often enough and if the OP thinks the armour on the Nuernberg is bad he needs to play that. Lost count of the number of times I was citadelled through the bows or the stern. The entire ship was a broadside ;-)

 

*Ahem* 

Please consider the date this thread was created (as well as my numerous posts at later dates debunking my original thoughts) and if you're concerned about what ships I, the OP, may or may not have played, please check. I have played up to tier 5 on every single line in the game.

Though under current meta, every cruiser below tier 9 is a bit of a mess right now really. 

[Omnichr0n]

My Warspite eats Nuernburg's all day long. I keep seeing people driving them in straight lines and then wonder why they got deleted by a BB.......

 

Oh, they get deleted no matter how it is driven. Angled, straight on front/back, broadside... doesn't really matter.

[JapLance]

 

Oh, they get deleted no matter how it is driven. Angled, straight on front/back, broadside... doesn't really matter.

 

Well, it doesn't matter when you're hit, but sailing broadside to a BB in a straight line for a while certainly makes you an easier target.

 

Unfortunately, nowadays is almost impossible not to make it, because if you sail angled to a BB, you're probably showing your broadside to another one 15Km away (and very often unspotted). It's what happens when there are far more BBs than cruisers in any team.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

 

Well, it doesn't matter when you're hit, but sailing broadside to a BB in a straight line for a while certainly makes you an easier target.

 

Unfortunately, nowadays is almost impossible not to make it, because if you sail angled to a BB, you're probably showing your broadside to another one 15Km away (and very often unspotted). It's what happens when there are far more BBs than cruisers in any team.

 

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[Barkyro]

Well to be fair this tiny ship has yelded my second best max dmg in a game. When you actually get paired with only T 7 or even better T 6 you will eat everyone you find including BB's. Trick is to always remember its firepower is in the back against BB's.

EX : 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwliUEbcY_6YMnNmWDVfR2lTWHM/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwliUEbcY_6YaXRWR0hCZWRTTGc/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwliUEbcY_6YZVNmU0pNTEloRXc/view?usp=sharing

 

And I still get close to that even now.

 

EDIT: Forgot to add don't use it in Ranked EVER

[Soft_Kitty_Warm_Kitty]

Well to be fair this tiny ship has yelded my second best max dmg in a game. When you actually get paired with only T 7 or even better T 6 you will eat everyone you find including BB's. Trick is to always remember its firepower is in the back against BB's.

EX :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwliUEbcY_6YMnNmWDVfR2lTWHM/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwliUEbcY_6YaXRWR0hCZWRTTGc/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwliUEbcY_6YZVNmU0pNTEloRXc/view?usp=sharing

 

And I still get close to that even now.

 

EDIT: Forgot to add don't use it in Ranked EVER

 

 

I agree, please do not use in ranked ever, got deleted 3 times, in 3 battles last night, all BB's seem to know how bad your armour is and focus you and before you know it, game over.  I tried keeping at distance, course changes, speed changes etc but when spotted it seems like you are everones favourite target .