rafparis Beta Tester 872 posts 4,381 battles Report post #76 Posted October 27, 2015 what would be nice for premium ships cammo, is that the count as both standard camo (reduced visibility and enemy accuracy). At the state of premium ships now (no better credit earners than standard ships, no captain retraining bonus...) it will only do them a favor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Crow_Eschatologist Players 124 posts 5,209 battles Report post #77 Posted October 27, 2015 wow, the fury about special ships is real. Fury? More like reciprocated contempt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MUMMY] YesYesYall [MUMMY] Beta Tester 88 posts 16,767 battles Report post #78 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Hard times in WoWS town. I thought maybe they had learned when they offered Atlanta and Atago bundles as well as the standalone ship. I was wrong. Haven't played for a few days cos reasons, thought I'd check forum. Yeah... They're just rinsing players now. At least with Warspite and Tirpitz they were (at the time of release) the only representatives of the RN and Kriegsmarine. This is just a piss poor effort, almost like it is a test to see if they get away with a product that took presumably the minimum amount of time. Those things don't just palette swap themselves. I cba with this - it's just always bad news from the premium shop. I mean who is holding on to their money for the Murmansk or Aurora £20+ bundle that we will get at 6:00 AM on Friday? When the inevitable Christmas sales comes, Christ only knows what kind of crap they will serve up. A glimpse of Tuesday afternon... Edited October 27, 2015 by hehehedog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] von_chom Alpha Tester 3,465 posts 11,649 battles Report post #79 Posted October 27, 2015 Hard times in WoWS town. I thought maybe they had learned when they offered Atlanta and Atago bundles as well as the standalone ship. I was wrong. Haven't played for a few days cos reasons, thought I'd check forum. Yeah... They're just rinsing players now. At least with Warspite and Tirpitz they were (at the time of release) the only representatives of the RN and Kriegsmarine. This is just a piss poor effort, almost like it is a test to see if they get away with a product that took presumably the minimum amount of time. Those things don't just palette swap themselves. I cba with this - it's just always bad news from the premium shop. I mean who is holding on to their money for the Murmansk or Aurora £20+ bundle that we will get at 6:00 AM on Friday? When the inevitable Christmas sales comes, Christ only knows what kind of crap they will serve up. A glimpse of Tuesday afternon... oh boy, i almost forgot the hilarious advent calendar, it will be definitely awesome this year considering all the crap they are trying to sell us over the year WG must hired some top notch EA manager ( that's perhaps why the EA is doing better and better job lately) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marlekin Beta Tester 270 posts 5,595 battles Report post #80 Posted October 27, 2015 Buy the digital version of the PC Gamer magazine, issue 284 Thanks for the find, just purchased a digital copy via googleplay. Tachibana looks like a fun little ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny_Phate Beta Tester 108 posts 3,300 battles Report post #81 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) [edited] Edited October 27, 2015 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] IsoA Players 96 posts 5,098 battles Report post #82 Posted October 27, 2015 In the mean time in WoT the tier 5 tanks cost a bit over 7 euros, are also available in the ingame store for gold and are often for sale with up to -50% discount. WG, seriously - put the ships available in the ingame store (what use are doubloons if there is nothing for me to buy?!) and drop the low tier ship prices already! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #83 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I thought maybe they had learned when they offered Atlanta and Atago bundles as well as the standalone ship. I was wrong. You know the sales figures? Because while you (and 200 other forum members) might not buy the bundle, the silent majority might. I don't think WG discloses sales info, but from what we know bundles might even be insanely popular. Don't forget that forum members are not representative of the whole playerbase. Anyway, I'm sucker for DDs so I bought it. Can't say I care much about the added dubloons and flags and whatever. I will probably use them up, but if I could choose between this bundle or the standalone ship I would've bought the ship only. Edited October 27, 2015 by Lord_WC 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rufus_Roughcut ∞ Players 98 posts Report post #84 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) You know the sales figures? Because while you (and 200 other forum members) might not buy the bundle, the silent majority might. I don't think WG discloses sales info, but from what we know bundles might even be insanely popular. Don't forget that forum members are not representative of the whole playerbase. Anyway, I'm sucker for DDs so I bought it. Can't say I care much about the added dubloons and flags and whatever. I will probably use them up, but if I could choose between this bundle or the standalone ship I would've bought the ship only. You get negs for buying stuff that isn't approved by the shouty minority. Give it 6 days Lord_WC and check through how many of these crying babies did actually buy it. A quick check on 3 or 4 of them revealed a couple of Terpitz bundle buyers Edited October 27, 2015 by Rufus_Roughcut 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #85 Posted October 27, 2015 You get negs for buying stuff that isn't approved by the shouty minority. Can't say I care about it. I play and post for my fun, not theirs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MUMMY] YesYesYall [MUMMY] Beta Tester 88 posts 16,767 battles Report post #86 Posted October 27, 2015 You know the sales figures? Because while you (and 200 other forum members) might not buy the bundle, the silent majority might. I don't think WG discloses sales info, but from what we know bundles might even be insanely popular. Don't forget that forum members are not representative of the whole playerbase. Anyway, I'm sucker for DDs so I bought it. Can't say I care much about the added dubloons and flags and whatever. I will probably use them up, but if I could choose between this bundle or the standalone ship I would've bought the ship only. I don't think I asserted that I 'know the sales figures'. I do know however that the Ishizuchi was removed and replaced by a bundle only offer for a week and yet the following Atlanta and Atago bundles were not. (ie. one could buy the ships alone, whilst a bundle with the same ship was on offer). I would never criticize players for what they do with their money - I've bought all the premiums I think, even the Diana,Tachiwhatever et al - and I'm sorry if it seemed I was. I just resent what I'm beginning to see as profiteering by WG in a game that I have have tried to support (that's something different to just making a profit btw readers) I didn't neg you btw 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #87 Posted October 27, 2015 Yep looks like bundles sell well actually so WG are bound to do it.But I don't want s premium dd so meh. I could do with doubloons though. I spent mine dodging the Karlsruhe wait what do I need doubloons for? I don't want to be tempted to convert XP! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEEF] Purple_Alert Beta Tester 273 posts 6,925 battles Report post #88 Posted October 27, 2015 He can't do jack all, he's just a puppet for those pulling the strings back in WG HQ. But NA do better deals/specials why not Eu. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Makoniel WG Staff 2,824 posts 13,949 battles Report post #89 Posted October 27, 2015 wait what do I need doubloons for? I don't want to be tempted to convert XP! It's the only use! There is literally no other way to spend it actually! (except this camo. That may look nice if not in halloween colors) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #90 Posted October 27, 2015 It's the only use! There is literally no other way to spend it actually! (except this camo. That may look nice if not in halloween colors) Then I shall not purchase any now if more options and in game premiums were to pop up... I might be tempted. For now however my money is not going to WG which is fine. So my message to WG is to give me better options for doubloons. If all ships are going to be available only in the shop - bundled with doubloons which can only be used on consumables and XP / credit conversion I am highly unlikely to purchase any 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FaceFisted Beta Tester 868 posts 5,081 battles Report post #91 Posted October 27, 2015 Who in hell has made this bundeled cr*p mainstream in WG EU? To that person - do you know that people would buy much more of these ships if they have fair price? I have spent around 600€ on WOT in 4 years of playing, mostly on premium tanks. I liked them, they were worse then regular tanks, but were great fun to play. Here I have no desire to buy any of them in these overpriced bundles! No friking way! One other thing. I have noticed that this game stops being profitable without premium or premium ships on tier 7. Back in WOT, that was on tier 9. Oh yes.... And that terrible decision you made with retraining captains... Now that was best example of greed. We need 500g for retraining for highly skilled captains. Not much people notice this now, but when they get to the point to chose between 50K+ Or even 100K+ experience for accelerated training for silver or 500g for instant retraining, we will see a lot of complaints here. So you mess around with us with bundles, ingame economy and retraining, so my question WG is when is enough enough? Do you have limit in your greed or do we need to start to look for other games now before we dive in too deep with this system that's made to cheat us out of our money?!? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAITO] Tuuletar Players 325 posts 4,917 battles Report post #92 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I made research about Fujin and its mutch worse than Minekaze. ( When you buy stuff from tech tree ) Shame on me i was secretly intrested about the ship even it was bundle. But not intrested mutch anymore Edited October 27, 2015 by Tuuletar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Makoniel WG Staff 2,824 posts 13,949 battles Report post #93 Posted October 27, 2015 I made research about Fujin and its mutch worse than Minekaze. ( When you buy stuff from tech tree ) Shame on me i was secretly intrested about the ship even it was bundle. But not intrested mutch anymore How much is it worse? Bad torpedoes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAITO] Tuuletar Players 325 posts 4,917 battles Report post #94 Posted October 27, 2015 How much is it worse? Bad torpedoes? This has all stuff you need to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARRSE] cracktrackflak Weekend Tester 947 posts Report post #95 Posted October 27, 2015 I made research about Fujin and its mutch worse than Minekaze. ( When you buy stuff from tech tree ) Shame on me i was secretly intrested about the ship even it was bundle. But not intrested mutch anymore I've been playing on NA for the past few days, and the Fujin owners I've met in-game all report that its nearly identical to Minikaze buts makes a lot of extra credits (mind you, credits are so easy to earn with any low- or mid-tier ship). I've not come across anyone who thinks the ship is bad in any way - and of course people tend to be very vocal when they've been conned into buying a duff premium... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAITO] Tuuletar Players 325 posts 4,917 battles Report post #96 Posted October 27, 2015 I've been playing on NA for the past few days, and the Fujin owners I've met in-game all report that its nearly identical to Minikaze buts makes a lot of extra credits (mind you, credits are so easy to earn with any low- or mid-tier ship). I've not come across anyone who thinks the ship is bad in any way - and of course people tend to be very vocal when they've been conned into buying a duff premium... Anti-Air is so low when you need it and you will sometimes its then nonexistent. Also slighty lower maneuverability. I am saying that 30€ ship should have least the same stats than the normal version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #97 Posted October 27, 2015 I don't think I asserted that I 'know the sales figures'. I do know however that the Ishizuchi was removed and replaced by a bundle only offer for a week and yet the following Atlanta and Atago bundles were not. (ie. one could buy the ships alone, whilst a bundle with the same ship was on offer). I would never criticize players for what they do with their money - I've bought all the premiums I think, even the Diana,Tachiwhatever et al - and I'm sorry if it seemed I was. I just resent what I'm beginning to see as profiteering by WG in a game that I have have tried to support (that's something different to just making a profit btw readers) I didn't neg you btw Nah, I didn't imply that you know it. I just wanted to warn you that the large-scale picture might be different compared to what we experience. Lots of stuff can be said about WG but they are very-very good when it's about company management and revenue maximizing so I'm fairly sure that bundles sell way better than we expect it. I personally would like a system where you can bundle the stuff you want together and the store gives you discount according to the total bundle value (like, 'put 10 EUR more premium in it and we throw in this t4 ship for you'). That obviously favors the customer however so much, that I don't think I will see it anytime soon. I don't mind negreps, we don't have to agree on everything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OILUP] WhiskeyWolf Beta Tester 1,491 posts 11,683 battles Report post #98 Posted October 27, 2015 Anti-Air is so low when you need it and you will sometimes its then nonexistent. Nobody cares about AA on a DD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exarsus Players 43 posts 10,238 battles Report post #99 Posted October 27, 2015 Then I shall not purchase any now if more options and in game premiums were to pop up... I might be tempted. For now however my money is not going to WG which is fine. So my message to WG is to give me better options for doubloons. If all ships are going to be available only in the shop - bundled with doubloons which can only be used on consumables and XP / credit conversion I am highly unlikely to purchase any Aren't you the guy who said he will not buy the Warspite? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAITO] Tuuletar Players 325 posts 4,917 battles Report post #100 Posted October 27, 2015 Nobody cares about AA on a DD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
