Force place bad players to PvE

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

I am getting really frustrated of losing battles due to players with what best can be described as having bot stats; that is below 45% WR, <600XP/battle, <20% hit ratio,<0,6KD and <10k damage while having at least 400 battles under their belt.

 

Those players are so bad that they are ruining the game experience for those players that actually know how to play due to their ineptness of a magnitude that they are actively losing the battles for their teams due to torp tk'ing, camping out of the battle area, not helping where needed and being so bad at shooting their guns that they can't hit any moving targets above 2km distance and finally being part of fail platoons.

 

WG, those bad players are ruining the game just as they do in WoT and you must force them force them to either play in their own server for the inept or keep them in PvE so that they can have fun with players of equal skill and mental ability instead of always sapping the enjoyment for those of us who do know how to play the game and how it's mechanics work.

 

Please - those players do not belong in any PvP game.

 

[nake53]

Well since you're a beta tester, carry harder! 

In all seriousness, the only problem with unskilled players is lack of proper tutorial and ability to buy yourself into t8 instantly w/o even learning basics.Instead of "dumping" them, there should be proper tutorial. 

[WatchdogCZ]

For every winning player there has to be a losing one. You know, it is a game where one team wins and the other loses.

 

For every player with their win rate above 50% there has to be another player with their win rate below 50%.

 

Everybody would eventually be forced to PvE.

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

Play for fun. You want to win more? Then play better because you simply ask to not have bad players in your team. There are always bad players on the enemy team too so...

[DBaron]

I am getting really frustrated of losing battles due to players with what best can be described as having bot stats; that is below 45% WR, <600XP/battle, <20% hit ratio,<0,6KD and <10k damage while having at least 400 battles under their belt.

 

Those players are so bad that they are ruining the game experience for those players that actually know how to play due to their ineptness of a magnitude that they are actively losing the battles for their teams due to torp tk'ing, camping out of the battle area, not helping where needed and being so bad at shooting their guns that they can't hit any moving targets above 2km distance and finally being part of fail platoons.

 

WG, those bad players are ruining the game just as they do in WoT and you must force them force them to either play in their own server for the inept or keep them in PvE so that they can have fun with players of equal skill and mental ability instead of always sapping the enjoyment for those of us who do know how to play the game and how it's mechanics work.

 

Please - those players do not belong in any PvP game.

 

 

Whiny ... play ranked battles if you can't tolerate random battles ... or maybe start playing to enjoy a game and not e-peening...

[Comrad_StaIin]

Well since you're a beta tester, carry harder! 

In all seriousness, the only problem with unskilled players is lack of proper tutorial and ability to buy yourself into t8 instantly w/o even learning basics.Instead of "dumping" them, there should be proper tutorial. 

With 0.5.1 comes a tutorial so no more bad players ?

[33rdAngel]

I am getting really frustrated of losing battles due to players with what best can be described as having bot stats; that is below 45% WR, <600XP/battle, <20% hit ratio,<0,6KD and <10k damage while having at least 400 battles under their belt.

 

Those players are so bad that they are ruining the game experience for those players that actually know how to play due to their ineptness of a magnitude that they are actively losing the battles for their teams due to torp tk'ing, camping out of the battle area, not helping where needed and being so bad at shooting their guns that they can't hit any moving targets above 2km distance and finally being part of fail platoons.

 

WG, those bad players are ruining the game just as they do in WoT and you must force them force them to either play in their own server for the inept or keep them in PvE so that they can have fun with players of equal skill and mental ability instead of always sapping the enjoyment for those of us who do know how to play the game and how it's mechanics work.

 

Please - those players do not belong in any PvP game.

 

 

Equal skill and mental ability ??? Who made you God to decide what rates as skill and what rates as mental ability. From the tone of your post I suspect you have had a bad run of games against more seasoned opponents whose skill far exceeds your own perhaps THEY should request YOU are forced into PVE games. As one reply to your "post" states there are winners and losers in every game, there are also players of differing skill levels many who will wipe the floor with you and others still in the learning curve. From your Random game stats you are no "expert" yourself, my stats look worse than yours but oh dear victories/battle stat is higher. I post them to make the point that they are relatively meaningless, most likely we prefer to play different types & tiers of ships and also probably play in a totally different way hence comparing stats pointless. I wont bother to quote my IQ rating or the numerous qualifications I have just in case you are unable to comprehend. My point being after 1800 + games in PVE I prefer playing there, there is more tolerance and understanding, more willingness by the majority of other players to cooperate to gain victory, less abuse than I have seen in Random and to be perfectly blunt ---- LESS players of your kind.

 

Bottom line is like it or not its a GAME where until World Games deem otherwise players are free to play where they wish, when they wish and most importantly HOW they wish, if you do not like it ......................

Play Another Game ........................ Simple is it not.

 

Atomskyitten Stats

 

Battles Fought                                               729

Victories / Battles                                           54.73%

Average Experience per Battle                    1267

Average Damage Caused per Battle           34,396

Kill / Death Ratio                                            1.50

 

33rdAngel Stats

 

Battles Fought                                              277

Victories / Battles                                          59.21%

Average Experience per Battle                    923

Average Damage Caused per Battle          27,270

Kill / Death Ratio                                           1.29

 

Regards Angel

{By self admission a competent average player}

Frustrated at Topic Poster Mode Disabled.

 

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[nake53]

With 0.5.1 comes a tutorial so no more bad players ?

Its unlikely that it will cure all of the players already playing, but probably will reduce their numbers among new ones.Also depends on quality of the tutorial.

[delaci76]

I think OP has a point but perhaps should be enforced for a lower winrate i.e 25% and only after a certain amount of battles say 50/100 or so as this is enough time to know the game.

 

Some of you are being a tad harsh on the OP. I do think WOT and WOWS need to control better the quality of players and the afkers and bots. (age limit enforced i.e 12 yr olds playing? which is ok but lets have a server for youngsters).

 

p.s my other pet hate is for people who play with the bare min of pc specs take ages loading into the game then play a destroyer and I am the only dd out of 3-4 who has actually managed to cap becuase the others are so slow loading in.

 

At least then play a BB for gods sake!

[gbgroger]

33rdAngel your stats are ok for a start, but with soo few rounds under your belt its not conclusive how you will handle yourself among better tiers and more competent opponents. Lets review them after 1-2000 rounds.

[C4PT41N_0BV10US]

@OP

You're bad cause you can't carry. Kappa. Go play some bots in PvE to learn how to carry games. 

[Shaka_D]

I find it really sad the the whole stat culture is being brought to WoWS like it was in WoT.

[Exocet6951]

Then again, you wouldn't want to have a player who only taps "w" three times, then goes in rushing forward guns blazing, dying in 2 minutes on your team.

 

Because there are players like that.

I'm sure the OP wasn't talking about the average player with 49% WR (or is it 48% on WoWS with the increased amounts of draws?), but rather the sub-40% WR players who have the life expectancy of a free glass of beer at happy hour practically 0 in average damage, and are just a constant liability to the team, but evade bot-status.

[C4PT41N_0BV10US]

But but but, such players happen on both sides... it's just, you know, random? It's the question how good you are (and sometimes which ship you drive atm) if you can snatch a victory from jaws of defeat.

[damo74]

I am getting really frustrated of losing battles due to players with what best can be described as having bot stats; that is below 45% WR, <600XP/battle, <20% hit ratio,<0,6KD and <10k damage while having at least 400 battles under their belt.

 

Those players are so bad that they are ruining the game experience for those players that actually know how to play due to their ineptness of a magnitude that they are actively losing the battles for their teams due to torp tk'ing, camping out of the battle area, not helping where needed and being so bad at shooting their guns that they can't hit any moving targets above 2km distance and finally being part of fail platoons.

 

WG, those bad players are ruining the game just as they do in WoT and you must force them force them to either play in their own server for the inept or keep them in PvE so that they can have fun with players of equal skill and mental ability instead of always sapping the enjoyment for those of us who do know how to play the game and how it's mechanics work.

 

Please - those players do not belong in any PvP game.

 

 

I feel your pain.

 

I really thought I had seen it all, but sheer stupidity I witnessed yesterday really took my breath away. Match after match I watched my teams snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

However, we're not all good at everything. I'm crap at football, I seem to have two left feet. But I just wish I had some decent players on MY team once in a while.

[Korvettenkapitaen]

ok, first I'm new to this game and realy not so good as other peoples, but I like it and i try to learn hard. what I miss in this game is sometimes tactic. everyone drives in another direction and suddenly you are alone against three or more ships.

[Admiral_noodle]

ok, first I'm new to this game and realy not so good as other peoples, but I like it and i try to learn hard. what I miss in this game is sometimes tactic. everyone drives in another direction and suddenly you are alone against three or more ships.

Have you tried looking at ichasegaming ok YouTube? And themightyjingles - how not to suck. These are good guides on how to improve. Also maybe division up with some "good" players who can speed up your learning. 

 

PvE is a good place to learn the basics but it's no substitute for playing against real people. The bots don't even weave or dodge. Nor do they launch Torps when they should!

[Seikin]

I think OP has a point but perhaps should be enforced for a lower winrate i.e 25% and only after a certain amount of battles say 50/100 or so as this is enough time to know the game.

 

Some of you are being a tad harsh on the OP. I do think WOT and WOWS need to control better the quality of players and the afkers and bots. (age limit enforced i.e 12 yr olds playing? which is ok but lets have a server for youngsters).

 

p.s my other pet hate is for people who play with the bare min of pc specs take ages loading into the game then play a destroyer and I am the only dd out of 3-4 who has actually managed to cap becuase the others are so slow loading in.

 

At least then play a BB for gods sake!

 

 

Noo - not a BB!

 

As a mostly cruiser player, at the start of a match I wait for BB's to move forward - looking for one who *looks* like he's heading towards the enemy - then support them.  Half the time I sit waiting and none of them move (still loading) or they just move parallel and keep distance - so instead, I'll just head off with the other cruisers, wondering if those BB's ever catch us up and get to fight..

[bismark121]

Have you tried looking at ichasegaming ok YouTube? And themightyjingles - how not to suck. These are good guides on how to improve. Also maybe division up with some "good" players who can speed up your learning.

 

PvE is a good place to learn the basics but it's no substitute for playing against real people. The bots don't even weave or dodge. Nor do they launch Torps when they should!

 

cloaking donkey has some decent tutorials as well

[bismark121]

I find it really sad the the whole stat culture is being brought to WoWS like it was in WoT.

 

dude its the internet of course it will

[Blixies]

"Forcing" any player to anything is pretty bad in general.

Your suggestion is against all basic online player rights.

In short.... Nope. Not ever.

[aboch]

I think OP has a point but perhaps should be enforced for a lower winrate i.e 25% and only after a certain amount of battles say 50/100 or so as this is enough time to know the game.

 

Some of you are being a tad harsh on the OP. I do think WOT and WOWS need to control better the quality of players and the afkers and bots. 

 

p.s my other pet hate is for people who play with the bare min of pc specs take ages loading into the game then play a destroyer and I am the only dd out of 3-4 who has actually managed to cap becuase the others are so slow loading in.

 

At least then play a BB for gods sake!

 

I agree with you. The OP has some point for sure. Often it is really annoying to see a player with 10 games and an Atago to vanish in first minute or torping own ships allready right after start. When i see some total fail i often check the profil just out of curiousity to see if the guy just had a bad game or if it is just normal game play for such guys. In 99% you see ingame/inbattle that a given guy must have <45% winrate. Next thing that immediatly gets my attention that these guys have mostly none or only 1 or 2 PVE battles. Me personally made in Beta over 100, if i remember right even nearly 200 PVE battles to get familar with the game mechanics and to avoid frustration for me and the team. In my opinion this is the first step to TEAM PLAY, being aware that you are in a team to be helpfull to it, not just a parasite waiting that others win the game for you. 

 

In my opinion  there should be some mission for PVE mode that you need a given amount of won battles there to get access to the first tiers, lets say tier 1 - 4. Be it 25 won battles in PVE for tier 1 random and 100 for tier 4 random, you name it, just as an example. This at least would be lower the frustration even of the players themself, and the team.

 

The problem is not losing, you can have good battles and you lose, but than again, you played and had a chance to win. Frustrating is when you even have 0 chance to win due MM, bots and AFKs and total useless unexperienced players. And yes, this happens in ranked battles too. By some luck i was 3 times in a ranked battles team with the same guy, each game he messed it up from beginning, checking his profile 26% winrate, And believe me, especially in ranked battles that is very annoying.

 

However, the game should be fun, there will always be total useless noobs, newbies that skip essential tutorials so the best way is just to life with it as it will not change for sure, easy as that.

[allufewig]

 

dude its a competitve online PvP-game, of course it will

 

fixed

[damo74]

ok, first I'm new to this game and realy not so good as other peoples, but I like it and i try to learn hard. what I miss in this game is sometimes tactic. everyone drives in another direction and suddenly you are alone against three or more ships.

 

Best advice I can give is - Watch what is going on on the minimap. You would be surprised how many players never look at the map at all.

 

 

[Mehmeds]

Wargaming could learn from Armored warfare developers, and make legit PvE mission mode, for players too bad to play pvp, but loving ship game, or wanting to chill away from all of those Mr Epeen players.