[NUKED] Steellegend [NUKED] Beta Tester 22 posts 17,701 battles Report post #1 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Dear WG, I have played all your world of "xyz" titles. I have spent a whole lot of money on your games. There is no one to blame. It was my decision. There is however a business model that gets you money and makes your customers happy. Unfortunately you have chosen a different path. Your product is one of THE most expensive games out there. Yet you manage to dissapoint and frustrate me and many other customers on an epic scale. I am aware that you can play these games for free but who are we kidding, they are not meant to. You have included all those pay walls and frustrations with the purpose to make people spend even more money. While that business model is at least questionable it remains barable unless the company does what you are doing. You have managed to cripple German tanks to an extent where they could not be recognized anymore. You had made a promising start with the Tirpitz in Wows who remains a capable ship in the right hands despite all the flaws that the real ship did not have. Your new cruiser line however is nothing short of an insult. Apart from the German ships there is not one vessel including destroyers in the entire game that gets its steering/engine blown up 4+ times a match leaving it for target practice. But that is just one point out of many. I gave you a second chance with wows despite me knowing better. I can only blame myself for that ofc but you did indeed blow it again. I wont go into detail on how many levels that new German cruiser line is broken. You had the chance to fix it before the release. All the preview videos had shown the huge weaknesses and sorry to say this, the fail concept of the line keeping the game mechanics in mind. Yet you decided to throw it at the players anyway and that says a lot (again) whos in charge. I'd say I wish you well but that would be a lie. I could say see you but the truth is, I hope not. Edited October 19, 2015 by Steellegend 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WJDE] Khul Beta Tester 520 posts 2,891 battles Report post #2 Posted October 19, 2015 Apart from the German ships there is not one vessel including destroyers in the entire game that gets its steering/engine blown up 4+ times a match leaving it for target practice. But that is just one point out of many. There's nothing wrong with having a whine about one's objects of self-identification being nerfed in a computer game--actually, there is, of course, but I'm assuming anyone over the age of 15 who's slept with another human will be able to point that out for you--but this is just utter hyperbole. Or, you know, you've never played an IJN DD or a Yubari, a ship I bought with my own cash. These ships suffer module damage if you sneeze at them. My record on Yubari is five engine KO's & two steering in one match. If not for "Last Stand" skill (which I only got because IJN DDs' engines blow up when the propellors start turning), I'd've been dead the second time it happened, rather than the sixth. Also, in the Yubari I've had large-calibre misses--misses, mind you, misses--KO anti-air guns & torp tubes. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Reyte Players 513 posts 12,839 battles Report post #3 Posted October 19, 2015 Isnt it a little bit to early to be disappointed about a new shipline? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #4 Posted October 19, 2015 It is. If the line is truly bad buffs will come. As for yubaris modules. Well they clearly aren't waterproof and a splash will kill them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #5 Posted October 19, 2015 Isnt it a little bit to early to be disappointed about a new shipline? He has played 21 games in them... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trrprrprr Players 228 posts 3,227 battles Report post #6 Posted October 19, 2015 Welcome to the world of WG Every game played in that German crap test ship was the same, where every second HE did kill engone and or steering....if lucky, it coupled with torp tube or gun. I suggest you to wait for full soviet line, they will have laser guided missiles and will be able to hover on to islands. Sure this is a game, but as nay other wg game, pretty darn political. Where ones "historical" it taken from some bum at local market and other nations like soviets are made by 1k russ propoganda scientists. Atleast for me its a win situation, im addict, so more they fk up this game, sooner ill be able to uninstall and not look back at it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NUKED] Steellegend [NUKED] Beta Tester 22 posts 17,701 battles Report post #7 Posted October 19, 2015 There's nothing wrong with having a whine about one's objects of self-identification being nerfed in a computer game--actually, there is, of course, but I'm assuming anyone over the age of 15 who's slept with another human will be able to point that out for you--but this is just utter hyperbole. Apparently you lack the ability to understand the difference between a whine and an argument. If it gives you any pleasure, keep trying to insult people. Speaking of sex, unless you come up with something more mature I am pretty sure you will have difficulties finding someone for that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Reyte Players 513 posts 12,839 battles Report post #8 Posted October 19, 2015 21 played battles is not a awful lot. I really liked königsberg. Some people also claimed, that soviet dds woulf ve also bad, and not they seem to be really good. All out of the sudden. Wg will certainly buff them when rhey are underperforming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alalos Players 170 posts 847 battles Report post #9 Posted October 19, 2015 königsberg... great freaking ship. holy moly 60k avg damage... luv that ship... even as dd guy. the ru dd.. is meh for me.... but more likely iam not realy a 13 km 400 damage salvo sniper guy...thats odd for a tier 6 dd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WJDE] Khul Beta Tester 520 posts 2,891 battles Report post #10 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Apparently you lack the ability to understand the difference between a whine and an argument. If it gives you any pleasure, keep trying to insult people. Speaking of sex, unless you come up with something more mature I am pretty sure you will have difficulties finding someone for that. Yes, your ultra-defensive response to a bit of humorous ribbing has certainly removed the spectre of you looking like a precious whining fanboy obsessed with irrelevant details, good job. Also, it seems that you completely missed the point of my post, which is that lying--or making half-formed statements full of hyperbole & factual inaccuracies--makes you look even more like a pant-wetting wehraboo fanboy than you already managed. Edited October 19, 2015 by Khul 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #11 Posted October 19, 2015 21 played battles is not a awful lot. I really liked königsberg. Some people also claimed, that soviet dds woulf ve also bad, and not they seem to be really good. All out of the sudden. Wg will certainly buff them when rhey are underperforming. To be honest I think once people have realised how to take on russian DD's, they will be pretty bad. Stay out of their torp range, keep them open for your cruiser and they die like flies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NUKED] Steellegend [NUKED] Beta Tester 22 posts 17,701 battles Report post #12 Posted October 19, 2015 Yes, your ultra-defensive response to a bit of humorous ribbing has certainly removed the spectre of you looking like a precious whining fanboy obsessed with irrelevant details, good job. Also, it seems that you completely missed the point of my post, which is that lying--or making half-formed statements full of hyperbole & factual inaccuracies--makes you look even more like a pant-wetting wehraboo fanboy than you already managed. If you honestly believe that you managed to get under my skin with that then I am sorry to burst your bubble. You might have tried to make an honest statement but please, for your own sake, consider this: The ability to include combinations of words like "precious whining fanboy obsessed with irrelevant details" and " lying--or making half-formed statements full of hyperbole & factual inaccuracies" and "makes you look even more like a pant-wetting wehraboo fanboy than you already managed" in just two sentences does not make you seem very intelligent nor will most people bother to listen to you, let alone try to find the argument hidden behind all those insults. So please grow up and learn how to articulate like an adult. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Reyte Players 513 posts 12,839 battles Report post #13 Posted October 19, 2015 Oh yeah, another internetargument. Lets stay on the topic. Its day one for german cruisers. Its too early to judge them as just plain bad. The königsberg is a beast if u can get close enough. U can hit on range while beeing a small and nimbe target. Thats the only ship i tested so far. If u form ur opinion based on wot and wowp it makes ur opinion just less believeable. Its a different game after all. Sounds more like u think wg is anti-german biased. The mention of "paywalls" and ur frustration also gives ur post more the smell of a whinethread. Im not saying its a whinethread, but it sounds similar to one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Gunship14 Players 850 posts Report post #14 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) The mention of "paywalls" What's the reason behind the quotation marks? There are paywalls in this game, just like in all other F2P games. Just these are 30m high, while in other games they are 20m. Edited October 19, 2015 by Gunship14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daki Weekend Tester 1,677 posts 20,280 battles Report post #15 Posted October 19, 2015 Apparently you lack the ability to understand the difference between a whine and an argument. If it gives you any pleasure, keep trying to insult people. Speaking of sex, unless you come up with something more mature I am pretty sure you will have difficulties finding someone for that. The issue is that you present no arguments at all - hence your original post is nothing more and nothing less than a whine. Furthermore, your main "argument" seems to be the opinions of some streamers. All in all, your lack of ability to construct a well argued opinion based on a sufficiently large number of games and tactics tried with a ship line will just make this "open letter" be yet another fail whine thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #16 Posted October 19, 2015 Yea I don't get the complaining. If you don't like it, don't play it. If you think things are too expensive, don't buy them. If you have positive ways to improve the game - express them here. I don't like people who complain about what they don't like without really asking what they do want eg. - it's early days but the German cruisers appear too weak. Please analyse and buff if necessary - high tier economy is causing too few players (especially cruisers and dds) please examine - premium ships: can we have some lower cost ones in game as the doubloons I have are useless (ish). I do not want to convert to silver or XP. Etc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drycon Players 245 posts Report post #17 Posted October 19, 2015 What's the reason behind the quotation marks? There are paywalls in this game, just like in all other F2P games. Just these are 30m high, while in other games they are 20m. a paywall means you cannot progress any further until you pay. You can in this game, it's just the more ships you drive the more money you need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #18 Posted October 19, 2015 a paywall means you cannot progress any further until you pay. You can in this game, it's just the more ships you drive the more money you need. Not a hard wall though. If you have enough time and willingness to play a million games you can easily fail your way to all tiers in all ships for Notting. Except port slots... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Gunship14 Players 850 posts Report post #19 Posted October 19, 2015 If you don't like it, don't play it. I don't think WG shares that opinion with you. Imagine if, when requested to put the russian ships in as the 3rd nation, they told their russian fanbase "if you don't like it, don't play it". I'm all for constructive critisism but, not playing the game and not paying for stuff is advice that, if taken by the masses, will indeed make all complaining stop. There won't be a game to complain about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #20 Posted October 19, 2015 I don't think WG shares that opinion with you. Imagine if, when requested to put the russian ships in as the 3rd nation, they told their russian fanbase "if you don't like it, don't play it". I'm all for constructive critisism but, not playing the game and not paying for stuff is advice that, if taken by the masses, will indeed make all complaining stop. There won't be a game to complain about. That was my point. If WG notices some ships are not getting played as much as they target, they will analyse and do something about it. In the end they want us to play - and to pay. The sweet spot spot is getting the majority to play and pay a little to advance. Make ships too bad and the grind too painful the majority will leave. Too easy and the majority won't pay. In between is what they want. Individuals will still complain. I can usually tell if something is balanced - if you have equal sides saying something is OP or UP its probably balanced. Eg Murmansk - half say it's balanced half say OP = it's Slightly OP High tier economy --> few defenders --> a little too harsh. Pensacola - probably balanced as it seems to have lovers and haters. Same for Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #21 Posted October 19, 2015 I don't think WG shares that opinion with you. Imagine if, when requested to put the russian ships in as the 3rd nation, they told their russian fanbase "if you don't like it, don't play it". I'm all for constructive critisism but, not playing the game and not paying for stuff is advice that, if taken by the masses, will indeed make all complaining stop. There won't be a game to complain about. Well that's the Russian fan base they wouldn't say that to them but here on Eu we always get that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rafparis Beta Tester 872 posts 4,381 battles Report post #22 Posted October 19, 2015 So far, new ships seems bad... Really bad. Putin react to the new Russian DD line: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Gunship14 Players 850 posts Report post #23 Posted October 19, 2015 That was my point. If WG notices some ships are not getting played as much as they target, they will analyse and do something about it. In the end they want us to play - and to pay. The sweet spot spot is getting the majority to play and pay a little to advance. Make ships too bad and the grind too painful the majority will leave. Too easy and the majority won't pay. In between is what they want. Individuals will still complain. I can usually tell if something is balanced - if you have equal sides saying something is OP or UP its probably balanced. Eg Murmansk - half say it's balanced half say OP = it's Slightly OP High tier economy --> few defenders --> a little too harsh. Pensacola - probably balanced as it seems to have lovers and haters. Same for Cleveland. Well I guess only time will tell. But the german cruisers certainly left a bad first impression on some people today. I have very few battles in them, but they actually made me stop playing for a while. At one point I hit a kuma that had 150 health 15 times with Kolberg and it didn't get sunk, while I was firing HE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SailingDutchy Beta Tester 213 posts 6,089 battles Report post #24 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) [edited] Edited October 20, 2015 by BigBadVuk This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drycon Players 245 posts Report post #25 Posted October 19, 2015 Not a hard wall though. If you have enough time and willingness to play a million games you can easily fail your way to all tiers in all ships for Notting. Except port slots... That's what I meant. I didnt think of the port slots but those are a luxury, not a necessity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites