Co-Op Corner

[chippy_lw]

Ok so I'm probably cast as the scum of the game, someone not good enough to play the "real" game. Fine. Now that we've got past that are there others out there that just enjoy shooting up the bots?

 

I'm having great fun down at tier 1, I've been up to tier 6 and played the random battles, but I'm just not cutthroat enough I guess, I end up as nothing more than a moving target for the "pro" to practice on, and that gets old real quick. So I'll just potter around on the co-op if that's ok.

 

Besides which, the Ai is not to be sneered at sometimes, get a poor team and life can get interesting to say the least, and down here in the bowels of tier1 you don't have that! many advantages, turn the wrong way you can soon find that the Ai is quite capable of turning your ship into a sieve in short order.

 

Also I've noticed that before anything has been spotted at the start of the game and some player fires blindly towards the enemy area, the bots seem to home in on said player (even though the player is way out of spotting range), and that player is usually the one to die first, so there's a tip for newer players, don't shoot wildly, and don't shoot the islands (I have it on good authority that the trees on the islands are not hostile), or at least don't shoot unless you want 3 bots targeting you right from the start.

[33rdAngel]

I rarely play anything other than Co-Op the players are friendlier, the atmosphere less toxic, the gameplay I find can still be challenging as since game went "live" the bots get more hits {specially 1st salvo} seem to hit critical parts of my ships more often and get loads more citadel hits than I used to see in closed Beta.

I play from Tier 1 to 7 with 28 Regular ships and Premium ships, solo or sometimes with a friend and do not get frustrated by "team mates" hurling abuse at my parentage like you do in Random games. I also do not come across the "invisible DD" faction who seem to frequent Random mode ad nauseum.

So to the Random game mode purists who poo poo my choice of game mode or call me coward etc etc you stick to your Random mode then you can bleat on here about "aimbots" "cheats" "OP ships" to your hearts content I for one feel refreshed and relaxed after playing and do not feel the need to complain about anything.

Regards Angel

[ScouserLes]

I mostly play COOP and find it more fun ,, yes now and then there is some real idiots on it but mostly its good ,, I still have both my tier 1 ships wont ever sell them ,, just waiting on them german ships now and the royal navy lol  were are they

[DDMafiaAssociateMember]

I rarely play anything other than Co-Op the players are friendlier, the atmosphere less toxic, the gameplay I find can still be challenging as since game went "live" the bots get more hits {specially 1st salvo} seem to hit critical parts of my ships more often and get loads more citadel hits than I used to see in closed Beta.

I play from Tier 1 to 7 with 28 Regular ships and Premium ships, solo or sometimes with a friend and do not get frustrated by "team mates" hurling abuse at my parentage like you do in Random games. I also do not come across the "invisible DD" faction who seem to frequent Random mode ad nauseum.

So to the Random game mode purists who poo poo my choice of game mode or call me coward etc etc you stick to your Random mode then you can bleat on here about "aimbots" "cheats" "OP ships" to your hearts content I for one feel refreshed and relaxed after playing and do not feel the need to complain about anything.

Regards Angel

 

Is anyone else noticing that the bots change ammo depending on the target? One changed to AP in a BB and changed to HE when I charged him in my wickes 

[Nekomancer]

That means that bots are smarter than the average BB player. Sooo many BB players are spamming HE at everything.

[chippy_lw]

 

Is anyone else noticing that the bots change ammo depending on the target? One changed to AP in a BB and changed to HE when I charged him in my wickes 

 

Yes they do! And you can get citadel-ed by them too. They can be mean with torps too if there's a tier 2 in the game (tier1-2), and the Bot never seems to hit their own players....unlike the human element.

[triumphgt6]

The carriers are not very clever - very easy at lower levels just to destroy all the bombers in the first few minutes.

[chippy_lw]

The carriers are not very clever - very easy at lower levels just to destroy all the bombers in the first few minutes.

 

I'll agree with that. The IJn at low tier does not send the fighters out, it just circles the bot carrier leaving your fighter squadron free to shoot up the bot bombers and your bombers free to roam at will.

If they ever let the bot fighters intercept, things could get interesting.

[Vanhal]

PvE definitely needs some love. It's appaling how little attention and work it gets from WG.

[Smeggo]

I enjoy them too - but I'm ok with random battles after a tasting the athmosphere in ranked battles a while 

[Admiral_noodle]

I play co op to test ships, sort out settings and a place to play aurora and Arkansas. I don't consider either of those good enough for PvP.

 

It's fun and relaxing. I can even get 50-100k credits.

 

But it's suicidally easy if anyone is half competent on your team. The AI isn't anything like good enough for mirrored matches - unless you have a team of total fails.

 

It would be nice to have missions in PvE and a bit more of a challenge. It's less toxic than PvP for a start.

[Kenliero]

Winning 100% of the time gets really boring for me, but if someone enjoys it, then go ahead, as long as you're having a good time

[chippy_lw]

Winning 100% of the time gets really boring for me, but if someone enjoys it, then go ahead, as long as you're having a good time

 

100% win rate?

You must have been blessed with better teams than I get.

 

[Admiral_noodle]

Haha I've played 42 coop games and have 100% win rate and a k/d ratio of 32.0

 

I've sunk twice.

 

I can't see how people can lose to bots. If they do what I tell them to

[Vaderan]

I can't see how people can lose to bots. If they do what I tell them to

 

You won´t beleave how some players are able to fail against bots sometimes! My all time favourite will be that one New York captain: the map ist this new mediteranean one, with 2 deployment zones in the north and in the south and solid landmasses left and right, with two large, prominent islands in the middle aswell, practically seperating the ways from north to south into 3 "streets". The New York is on basically full health and last man of the team, vs. a <10% New Mexico. He is inbound with that NM, trading shots. The NM is capping the base. The New York decides to turn away from the NM, his fire is inaccurate. The NM is still capping. The New York moves behind one of these huge Islands, moving around its southern tip and heading north (probably to surround the island and move into the cap from the north). Of course, the NM bot doesnt follow the player and stays in cap. The 200 HP Bot NM caps the base and the battle is lost, with a >90% health New York hiding behind an island. Not to mention, all watching players told him just to cause 2k damage and win the game...

 

That said, i have to admit i like the PvE element of this game. I would love to see some improvements on it, maybe missions like those PvE missions we see on armored warfare. It would be just awesome...

But it would require WG to listen to those players like us, and change something they don´t want to change. So, no hope for us here...

[Kenliero]

 

100% win rate?

You must have been blessed with better teams than I get.

 

 

Yeah, guess I have been lucky with teams.

 

That said, i have to admit i like the PvE element of this game. I would love to see some improvements on it, maybe missions like those PvE missions we see on armored warfare. It would be just awesome...

But it would require WG to listen to those players like us, and change something they don´t want to change. So, no hope for us here...

 

I would also like to see some interesting PVE stuff, like challenging special missions you could do together with human allies.

[Admiral_noodle]

Just lost my first coop ever. In a Sampson. Showing a friend how to play in his. And I team killed him...

 

The shame.

[chippy_lw]

Just lost my first coop ever. In a Sampson. Showing a friend how to play in his. And I team killed him...

 

The shame.

 

LMAO!

That seems to be a trend in teams. I played with my bro in a team and his first salvo of torps sank me. Beware of the teammate! They are more dangerous than the enemy!!

 

 

[AmazingBeaver]

I play crapton of Co-Op. To learn the lead and proper aiming spots, to learn my ship strong points, it is truly thanks to Co-Op I have 3.5 K/D in PvP

[Admiral_noodle]

 

LMAO!

That seems to be a trend in teams. I played with my bro in a team and his first salvo of torps sank me. Beware of the teammate! They are more dangerous than the enemy!!

 

 

 

I just don't know how to destroyer. Got cocky after our first game where I came top. 

[Tubit101]

I totally get that some would rather play PvE. In fact, I'd probably play both PvP and PvE if PvE was a bit better. The PvE xp is far too low, though.

 

I want to see real co-op missions. Convoy defense and attack. Historical battles. Stuff like that. I also have a secret dream about having a PvE warship raid on Cthulhu.

[SENAdmiral]

Congrats to devs, the bots are really smart, I  saw them ramming when they are low health , using torps better then many real players, no bad mouth, and the best place to learn a ship right after you buy. 

 

The devs have done a great work on bots, that's true. 

[33rdAngel]

33rdAngel, on 17 October 2015 - 07:47 PM, said:

I rarely play anything other than Co-Op the players are friendlier, the atmosphere less toxic, the gameplay I find can still be challenging as since game went "live" the bots get more hits {specially 1st salvo} seem to hit critical parts of my ships more often and get loads more citadel hits than I used to see in closed Beta.

I play from Tier 1 to 7 with 28 Regular ships and Premium ships, solo or sometimes with a friend and do not get frustrated by "team mates" hurling abuse at my parentage like you do in Random games. I also do not come across the "invisible DD" faction who seem to frequent Random mode ad nauseum.

So to the Random game mode purists who poo poo my choice of game mode or call me coward etc etc you stick to your Random mode then you can bleat on here about "aimbots" "cheats" "OP ships" to your hearts content I for one feel refreshed and relaxed after playing and do not feel the need to complain about anything.

Regards Angel

 

Is anyone else noticing that the bots change ammo depending on the target? One changed to AP in a BB and changed to HE when I charged him in my wickes 

 

They fire front turrets in one direction {hit} then rear at another target a millisecond after {hit} !!! Obviously bots have never heard the "AIM FIRST" instruction.

Try doing it yourself its not possible as your own turrets all try to point the same way where as bots turrets seem to be able to target multiple real players. That said still love the gameplay.

Haha I've played 42 coop games and have 100% win rate and a k/d ratio of 32.0

 

I've sunk twice.

 

I can't see how people can lose to bots. If they do what I tell them to

 

After 42 I was still 100% now I have over 1000 {cant remember how many exactly} and have 95% win rate. There really are some stupid mistakes made by team mates but as the majority are probably newer players learning the game {as I once was} I accept it as a unavoidable, I wonder if players in Random battles would be as tolerant

Regards Angel

[33rdAngel]

 

I'll agree with that. The IJn at low tier does not send the fighters out, it just circles the bot carrier leaving your fighter squadron free to shoot up the bot bombers and your bombers free to roam at will.

If they ever let the bot fighters intercept, things could get interesting.

 

OI YOU !!! Stop giving the developers ideas !!! My carriers do very nicely at the moment thank you and I don't want that to change any time soon

Regards Angel

[MacAdder]

I prefer PvE myself, less toxicity, the bots attack and cap so you are forced to defend as well as attack

not running away all the time and the teams are equal unlike PvP