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Developer Bulletin: Update 0.5.1

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cant really find any big faults with this patch to be honest only the upcoming ships are being kept on the quiet

as in they arnt getting a massive hype (not that they're any good at the hype thing anyways)

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Night battles and buffed Atago wow.

 

Such premium. Would buy. So japanese. A tag O. Wow. Buffed. Hype Camo. Doge style. 

 

Then, Buffed Japanese torpedo bombers accuracy. This one is good! But I wonder to what extend. I do really fear however the fact that US planes are less bothered by AA panic consumable... 

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This is a good patch - a lot of new things and positive changes.  I hope the majority of people appreciate it as such.

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US planes getting less affected by AA ability, because the tier 9 and 10 US carriers aren't OP enough. :P

 

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Then, Buffed Japanese torpedo bombers accuracy.

Dive bombers only. The torpedo bomber's new spread was cutted out of the 5.1 patch and no longer in the bulletin.

 

US planes getting less affected by AA ability, because the tier 9 and 10 US carriers aren't OP enough. :P

Midway is getting nerf in 5.1, Essex probably as it's hard to change only one of them.

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It's not a real night battle, but I appreciate the effort.

 

Based on what I see, it's just a polar night skin of North but due to the auroras the visibility is unaltered. It's all just graphical. There's no night battle mechanic.

 

Still, it's good to know that they are seriously thinking about how to put night battles in. Bodes well.

 

The other two maps look cool based on the screenshots. Balancing changes look good. Carrier changes look dumb. Zone Capture sounds kind of ridiculous but we will see. Destroyer changes look stunted and ineffectual. Map edge change yay. Missions yay.

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US planes getting less affected by AA ability, because the tier 9 and 10 US carriers aren't OP enough. :P

 

So it's perfectly fine that T4-8 USN carriers continue to underperform next to their Japanese counterparts? Especially the air superiority loadouts which should continue to suffer endlessly? 

 

Nevermind that the T4-8 IJN carriers will now benefit from an accuracy buff that will make them overperform even more and attract the dev's attention for another overreaction?

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View PostFloRead, on 16 October 2015 - 03:49 PM, said:

Nevermind that the T4-8 IJN carriers will now benefit from an accuracy buff that will make them overperform even more and attract the dev's attention for another overreaction?

 

I see a nerf there, not a buff. Who cares about dive bombers if the torpedo bombers get nerfed?

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anything to help a brother out who is struggling with US DD's is welcome!

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You can Nerf Midway once the Hakuryu Air Superiority loadout loses at least one of its Torpedo bomber squadrons, with max fighters the Midway gets 0 torp squads, with max fighters a Hakuryu gets two torpedo bomber squadrons, this is not balanced.  Midway needs 3/1/1 or Hakuryu needs to be cut to 4/0/4 or 4/1/3.  Also, if we are playing this game, then Hiryu needs a nerf, cos it currently totally outclasses Ranger in every respect, and Ryujo outclasses Independence with its loadouts.  I see Essex and Midway as a reward for those who have ground through the US CV line while being dominated by IJN loadouts, and you can protect against a carrier by sticking together.  Also, I see tier 9 and 10 carriers as the counter to tier X BB's cos otherwise they would not have many counters.  I dont see how you can nerf Essex, cos you need to give it 5 squadrons to compete with Taiho, and it needs to be allowed 2 torp squadrons cos restricting that to tier 10 is ridiculous on the US side.  The Air superiority loadout is already broken.  Historically it could carry 90 planes, so thats fine in game.  It was also the most mass produced capital ship class of the 20th century, so of course it should perform well in the game

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 U.S. bomber planes will become more stable while under anti-aircraft barrage fire: their bomb spread in these circumstances will be slightly decreased. As for their Japanese counterparts, they will have increased precision for manual release - something loved by many an experienced aircraft carrier captain.

 

This is a huge buff for US dive bombers. Because they have more planes per squadrons on same sized area the likelihood of a hit is already better. With the Japaneses dive bombers getting smaller circle with less planes per squadron it means they are now statisticallyin line with the USN precision wise. But i will be harder to aim them with a smaller circle on small and moving ships.

 

On the other hand the US bombers still have the advantage of AA barrage resistance.

 

 

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Where the hell do you guys get the information about Carrier Balancing? Am i blind?

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I don't necessarily agree with the buff to US planes in AA, but dive bombers did need a big buff because at the moment the air superiority loadout on  every american carrier from Bogue up does not do enough damage with just 1 or 2 dive squads

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Read it again. They said low tier IJN carriers will get torp damage nerf. If they wanted to buff the low tier USN carriers then they should have included the Midway nerf they promised to deliver with the same patch also.

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I'm not saying the US DDs didn't deserve it, but why doesn't they at least try to balance DDs in general? 

 

Oh well, might be in the next balance patch in a month or so.

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Read it again. They said low tier IJN carriers will get torp damage nerf. If they wanted to buff the low tier USN carriers then they should have included the Midway nerf they promised to deliver with the same patch also.

 

It was people earlier in the thread talking about Essex and Midway being nerfed, and I was trying to justify the reasons for no nerf being needed, unless Hakuryu was nerfed too

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Read it again. They said low tier IJN carriers will get torp damage nerf. If they wanted to buff the low tier USN carriers then they should have included the Midway nerf they promised to deliver with the same patch also.

 

No, you are trying to muddy the whole situation up. T4-8 IJN carriers outperform the USN carriers by a good margin. The DB buff might help, but the torpedo bomber accuracy buff obviously rang enough alarm bells that the torpedo damage nerf had to come from left field. 

 

With the torpedo spread buff, Taiho and Hakuryu's damage numbers are going to rise again. I honestly believe the devs are taking a few weeks to see the outcome of the torpedo spread buff and trust me, I see not just a Midway nerf coming after that.

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Incidentally, what Midway nerf were they proposing?

 

I don't know, but in my opinion, when it comes, it's long overdue.

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Sounds like an extremely positive patch. Looking forward to it.

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