Omega1337 Players 2 posts Report post #1 Posted October 13, 2015 Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question regarding the XP calculation within the "Test Drive" of the Königsberg. As the event says, all XP gained on the event-ships will be saved and usable for the according tech-tree after release. As I was trying to get the most out of these events I added the "Equal-Speed-Charlie-Londong" Flag (+50%XP) in addition with my premium account. I have now finished a game with 1458 BASE XP. If we now do the math: 1458+50% Premium = 2187 2187+50% Flag Bonus = 3280 Even if the math is wrong, we may assume the XP gained should be at least around the 2500-3000 mark. Instead, I have gotten exactly 1500XP. Same with the credits, I received exactly 100.000 Cr So I would like to know if anybody has an Idea how the math works on these ships and if there is a "cutoff" at 1500 XP and 100.000 Cr? Because if yes, it would be of no use to boost it neither with the "Equal-Speed-Charlie-Londong" Flag, nor with a Premium membership. Best regards xSudden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrB0mbast1c Beta Tester 65 posts 2,430 battles Report post #2 Posted October 13, 2015 Dont use any flags... XP gain is fixed, ive done 3 games for 1500 exp each, no XP for the captain tho, i would be nice if the capt got the exp at least!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #3 Posted October 13, 2015 Bwahahaha...sorry...this is *so* WG. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] OldGrandad Supertester 3,404 posts 35,711 battles Report post #4 Posted October 13, 2015 Dont use any flags... XP gain is fixed, ive done 3 games for 1500 exp each, no XP for the captain tho, i would be nice if the capt got the exp at least!!!! Bwahahaha...sorry...this is *so* WG. This has been so since we started to test the RUDE lines on the live server so that is to be expected. (save your flags!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #5 Posted October 13, 2015 Yeah really, a pleasure to play: 1500 XP for the ship and nothing for the Captain. I wont risk my Tirpitz Captain on this thing: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KEBAB] Zambalo Players 21 posts Report post #6 Posted October 13, 2015 Yes, same problem here with that Königsberg!... There is something seriously wrong in Preussen.. Happy at first to get that ship..but now i cant wait for them to wipe it!..since thats what it has been for my gameplay so far! Punishment for wg..fix that event bug and let us keep the königsberg after the event has ended!! As some kind of special premium ship xD 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #7 Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Yes, same problem here with that Königsberg!... There is something seriously wrong in Preussen.. Happy at first to get that ship..but now i cant wait for them to wipe it!..since thats what it has been for my gameplay so far! Punishment for wg..fix that event bug and let us keep the königsberg after the event has ended!! As some kind of special premium ship xD Srsly....... You get to play a ship of each new line before the release and test it if it fits your playstyle and to get to know the strengths and weakness of german cruisers/RU DDs before you start the grind. You have to invest absolutely nothing.( Oh I'm sorry you have to pay 2xp and 2 silver per ship, I am really sorry.) The stats of these ships don't show up in your "record", if you are worried about that. You cannot lose credits playing them, that is ofc if you don't use prem consumable or camo, but smart people knowing the XP/credit cutoffs wouldn't do that anyway, right? right? [edited] Edited October 13, 2015 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. RogDodgeUK 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Gunship14 Players 850 posts Report post #8 Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I see that we can sell it. Would that be advisable, for example, on sunday? Edit : Ignore me, just read that we can't. Edited October 13, 2015 by Gunship14 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooneyBin Beta Tester 354 posts 1,037 battles Report post #9 Posted October 13, 2015 I see that we can sell it. Would that be advisable, for example, on sunday? i'm making a wild guess here, but if you choose to sell it, then i guess you'll only get 1 credit for it (since you got it for free). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #10 Posted October 13, 2015 Before I thorougly read the terms of the deal I installed some modules on my Ognevoy, now I'm wondering if I'll have to uninstall them before the ship is gone or if this will be done by default, which I doubt. I have some doubts about the captain's experience too, IIRC the terms says the capt is going to stay and we could use it on the T I ship as with the ship exp, but if he's not going to gain any skill, apart from the 25 doubloons economy, I can't see the convenience. I could well use my well trained capt on Ognevoy and enjoy the party a little more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #11 Posted October 13, 2015 I could well use my well trained capt on Ognevoy and enjoy the party a little more. I wont risk my Tirpitz Captain on this weird XP/Captain thing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #12 Posted October 13, 2015 Well, in fact there's no inherent "risk", just a lack of progress. But since the stock capt cannot progress all the same, and given both ships are premium with no retraining involved, I think I will use my well trained capt on Ognevoy and just shift him bck to Murmansk when playing with it. Overall I'm truly enjoying the experience and I'm grateful to WG for the opportunity, there were just a couple points left unexplained which puzzled me. Also, I just read in another thread that the modules (steering, gunnery etc not the ship upgrades of course) will be automatically uninstalled for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guillotine ∞ Players 401 posts 7,897 battles Report post #13 Posted October 13, 2015 Why cant you give players atleast credits and cut the " repair " costs, so theres even slight point of testing more than 2 games. While your exp " goest to waste " you should earn atleast cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooneyBin Beta Tester 354 posts 1,037 battles Report post #14 Posted October 13, 2015 Why cant you give players atleast credits and cut the " repair " costs, so theres even slight point of testing more than 2 games. While your exp " goest to waste " you should earn atleast cash. The exp you get on the 2 ships, you can convert that later on, since it'll follow you once the German and Russian ships are released, so it's a not entirely wasted, and they're good moneymakers atm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #15 Posted October 13, 2015 Why cant you give players atleast credits and cut the " repair " costs, so theres even slight point of testing more than 2 games. While your exp " goest to waste " you should earn atleast cash. There are no repair costs. So all the credits are pure profits (unless you use premium consumables). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SEN] SENAdmiral Players 333 posts Report post #16 Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) There are no repair costs. So all the credits are pure profits (unless you use premium consumables). well, the russian dd are giving you nothing, no credits at all - even for a win: probably a bug. On other hand, looks like the german ca still give you some credits... So , NO PROFITS for russian dd... Edited October 13, 2015 by SENAdmiral Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooneyBin Beta Tester 354 posts 1,037 battles Report post #17 Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) well, the russian dd are giving you nothing, no credits at all - even for a win: probably a bug. On other hand, looks like the german ca still give you some credits... So , NO PROFITS for russian dd... so, you expect 40-100k credits for 15 hits with your canon in your DD? try and do more then <5k dmg, then the exp/credits might show up. EDIT: i can see your DD have 500 exp, so you've must have gotten exp/credits at some point. Edited October 13, 2015 by LooneyBin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SEN] SENAdmiral Players 333 posts Report post #18 Posted October 13, 2015 1 - the 500 xp come with the ship 2 - like aways, you miss the essential - I got a kill by a torp hit 3 - was a win 4 - no credits/xp at all for a win with a kill Again, improve your reading skills before to argue. Same thing / bug happen on ranked battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooneyBin Beta Tester 354 posts 1,037 battles Report post #19 Posted October 13, 2015 1 - the 500 xp come with the ship 2 - like aways, you miss the essential - I got a kill by a torp hit 3 - was a win 4 - no credits/xp at all for a win with a kill Again, improve your reading skills before to argue. Same thing / bug happen on ranked battles. seriously.... no matter how many times you show that ingame picture, then it doesn't change the fact that you still get exp/credit in that DD, but because you apparently play poorly and get nothing, then it obvious mean it's broken... There's other people that show they've gotten 1500 exp and 100k credit, but you need to work for it. I've gotten 1500 exp and 100k credits on a lost game, why, because i earned it due to dmg etc... So instead of sitting here whining over your low dmg, which will net you zero income, then play the ship and get better with it, and start earning some income. "but i got a kill with a torp hit" yeah, and so?? might have been the last 200 hp it removed... So as i've previously stated, try and do more then 10k dmg in a game, and then you'll get some credits/exp for it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SEN] SENAdmiral Players 333 posts Report post #20 Posted October 13, 2015 @Looney: man, you have some issues on your understanding of simple facts : I stop arguing with you, I will not lost my time with a stone head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nekomancer Beta Tester 216 posts 2,578 battles Report post #21 Posted October 13, 2015 Kinda strange that you claim a bug when it works fine for others and their Tier 6 Soviet DD. http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/33495-we-get-ognevoi/page__pid__611800#entry611800 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonmd Players 801 posts 1,673 battles Report post #22 Posted October 13, 2015 Seems to me you get 500xp and 40k if youre sunk, 1500xp and 100k if you survive. Strange but if it's carried over to the ship in the proper tech tree when theyre released properly, I guess thats ok. However, WHY? I dont get the logic of this, is it to keep the math simple for the WG servers when they are released or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #23 Posted October 13, 2015 Seems to me you get 500xp and 40k if youre sunk, 1500xp and 100k if you survive. Strange but if it's carried over to the ship in the proper tech tree when theyre released properly, I guess thats ok. However, WHY? I dont get the logic of this, is it to keep the math simple for the WG servers when they are released or what? I just ended a battle where I was sunk in my K-berg (Draw no less). I still got my 100k and XP. I'm rather confident it relies on performance. Do well and you are rewarded ok nicely, do less well and you get a bit less, do marginal damage and you get nothing. Regardless of what we get from it, it doesn't cost anything, so any gains are pure profits. If you don't gain anything... well, I can't help with that. But the fact remains, these ships are free of charge. Too bad the captains don't advance though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonmd Players 801 posts 1,673 battles Report post #24 Posted October 13, 2015 Regardless of what we get from it, it doesn't cost anything, so any gains are pure profits. If you don't gain anything... well, I can't help with that. But the fact remains, these ships are free of charge. Too bad the captains don't advance though. Absolutely, don't get me wrong, it was a nice surprise to get one to test and I'm not moaning about the amount of points / XP earned, any at all would indeed be a bonus in a free ship. However, i'm just confused as to why it's not the same as a 'normal' ship, why the round numbers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #25 Posted October 13, 2015 1500 XP for a win and 100k credits from a free ship that I can try out to see if I like the flavor of the German cruiser line. I call that a bargain. Would be nice to gain XP on my captain but now I'm just nitpicking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites