got my Koningberg

[SailingDutchy]

as the title says i got my Koningsberg after a great battle in my Minekaze and whant to say thnx to the players that give me the room to reach the kills for it,so many thnx for those nice and kindly skippers!!

;)

 

[General_Kunde]

[deathcaster]

Aren't you a special snowflake.

[Kurosawa]

congrats

[woppy101]

How do you put your ships on 2 levels?

[DumbleDerp]

How do you put your ships on 2 levels?

 

Via a mod http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/12780-mod0502-aslains-wows-modpack-installer-wpicture-preview-v109-11102015/

 

and OP, good for you.

[Gatt]

Very fun to play. A little weak on the XP gained side

 

 

[Hairlock]

Congrats to all of you!

 

[gbgroger]

after 2 hours of grinding mogami I finally got königsberg. Took it for a test drive, fell in love with it immediately. The guns are rock solid, though not hard hitting but managed to grab me 3 dds and a phonenix before falling to a well placed volley of mexico fire!

 

Must say I enjoy Königsberg!

[Gatt]

Yes, it seems a good Tier V CA. I imagine how fun to play it will be with an Advanced Firing Trained Captain

 

[Nekomancer]

Yeah, it already has over 16km range with those guns and the penetration values seem to be pretty good as i hit the citadel of a Kongo from over 15km away.

[LooneyBin]

yeah, it's a nice ship.

Good range, accurate guns, fairly fast/mobile.

But, the Engine, it gets blown out CONSTANTLY, i just had a game where i spend the majority of the time dead in the water, with no propulsion. And unfortunatly, then it's a thing that happen rather often.

[Cuddly_Spider]

I found the guns lacked power, even when I got the citadel.

 

Rapid fire and accurate though.

[Gatt]

I found the guns lacked power, even when I got the citadel.

 

Rapid fire and accurate though.

 

True. You must find the right balance between being exposed to enemy fire and fire enough (read: many) salvos to do decent dmg.

 

Same problem, probably worst, will have the german Tier VI CA.

[MrDuffo]

those golden cards. disgusting!

[simonmd]

yeah, it's a nice ship.

Good range, accurate guns, fairly fast/mobile.

But, the Engine, it gets blown out CONSTANTLY, i just had a game where i spend the majority of the time dead in the water, with no propulsion. And unfortunatly, then it's a thing that happen rather often.

 

Ive found that too, the armor generally is the single worst thing. I must say, I like have the twin turrets on the stern, that way when i'm weaving left and right to avoid fire, I constantly have 6 guns on the enemy, nice!

[Unintentional_submarine]

Königsberg is a temperamental ship, that's for sure.

 

Pit her against her own tier or lower, and she will wreck left and right. She can easily pen ships such as Kuma, Phoenix and Omaha (had a battle against two Kumas and a Tenryu, ended up with 19 citadel hits). Pit her against higher tier ships, and she will instantly feel massively out of her league. I have faced off against Furutakas (same tier, I know) and Clevelands a few times now, and they are not fun at all. Yes, the Furutaka. The only reason I have defeated a couple of them was down to them playing badly and me having a bit of luck. I simply couldn't penetrate their citadels at all (1 citadel hit so far), and the HE simply isn't strong enough to whittle them down. Both my Furutaka kills have been from torpedoes, that says something. The Clevelands are simply something you should avoid at all times. Very long range might work, but she is still considerably better.

 

Against battleships I run. I usually don't in my Murmansk or Omaha, but In Königsberg I run almost instantly. I might drop a few salvoes on them, but otherwise I get clear. I tried a few times in my first battles to do the usual wiggle and HE spam. Didn't work. The fires and HE simply can't do the job in time. It seems every BB hit is a citadel, unless they fire HE, though technically HE can citadel K-berg. Destroyers are food though. The high rate of fire means you can usually get off more than one volley, and having 9 guns per volley does appear to make up for the weak HE. However, I am not proud to say this, but I did get pummelled pretty badly by a Grem. His firepower was simply impressive, and while I was under fire from other ships too, it was the Grem that convinced me to retreat. He even citadelled me from a bad angle... I know the Grem has AP power unrivalled among the DDs (and have used it myself), but it was still a rude shock to be on the receiving end of that for the first time.

 

Essentially she does the same job as the Omaha at that tier, and can pretty much perform the same sweeping kill action. But this is mainly down to many people that that tier not knowing about angling, citadels etc. As soon as an enemy knows how to handle his ship, the Königsberg loses a lot of her shine. In an angle-battle she is bound to come out worse due to poor armour, sub-par penetration and weak HE. Incidentally, against such an opponent her torpedoes aren't that useful either.

 

Overall, I don't find her to be OP. Certainly not as good as Omaha or Murmansk. But she is a very fun ship, and highly enjoyable. I would be very sad to find out she was nerfed.

[ShuggieHamster]

first attempt in my isokaze and I play the game of my life.

5 kills, a double kill, 4 devastating strikes, a high calibre, I lost the freaking game on points but theres a new friend in my port and she looks gorgeous.

 

WG ... lot of love coming your way from Port Hamster.

 

as to how she plays, thats going to have to wait ... I've used ALL my freaking luck to get her!

[OldGrandad]

I have been sailing her for quite a while and I am glad a few can sail her (and the Ognevoi) pre-release. There is a big but, in her current state (as with the other DE CA's)  she is weak for her class and any sniff on an AP shell and she wilts. I am hoping that WG will give the DE line just a little love to at least give them some parity in their respective tiers. Anyway, well done to those that have managed to grab the chance with the 2 ships and it will be good to hear some constructive criticism of them. 

 

[LooneyBin]

I have been sailing her for quite a while and I am glad a few can sail her (and the Ognevoi) pre-release. There is a big but, in her current state (as with the other DE CA's)  she is weak for her class and any sniff on an AP shell and she wilts. I am hoping that WG will give the DE line just a little love to at least give them some parity in their respective tiers. Anyway, well done to those that have managed to grab the chance with the 2 ships and it will be good to hear some constructive criticism of them. 

 

well, lets try and be a bit objective here regarding the DE CA.

 

Pros:

Rapid firing guns.

Very good range.

Good dispertion.

Fairly agile.

Pretty decent traverse.

Lovely torpedo arc.

 

Cons:

No armor.

Engine gets killed constantly.

No AA (might aswell remove it, 15 DPM as max?)

Getting spotted from miles away.

HE dmg is really killing the ship (eventhough i've had some succes using AP vs DD).

Low chance of fire (but RoF makes up for it, so not a major issue).

Lack of penetration (can barely pen a Kuma at <5 km range).

 

Just my findings so far.

[Gatt]

The Konigsberg seems made of glass when hit by HE or AP. Much-much more than the Murmansk or (IIRC) the Omaha.

 

I'm afraid she will be a bullet magnet for every DD and CA in range. I really hope WG will make her a little more tough.

 

 

[Nekomancer]

Lack of penetration? I penned the Citadel of a Kongo at almost max range!

It has its downsides, but in my opinion it's not the lack of penetration.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/l5ll56hcu151m7b/20151013_143026_PGSC105-Konigsberg_00_CO_ocean.wowsreplay

Even have a replay to prove it.

 

I agree on the poor armor and the not very good AA though. Can't say anything about the sturdiness of the engine yet. HE damage is piss poor, i concur with that.

[LooneyBin]

Lack of penetration? I penned the Citadel of a Kongo at almost max range!

It has its downsides, but in my opinion it's not the lack of penetration.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/l5ll56hcu151m7b/20151013_143026_PGSC105-Konigsberg_00_CO_ocean.wowsreplay

Even have a replay to prove it.

 

I agree on the poor armor and the not very good AA though. Can't say anything about the sturdiness of the engine yet. HE damage is piss poor, i concur with that.

 

yeah, lack of penetration...

had a Kuma in a game, at ~4-4.5 km range, 9 AP shots fired, 4-5 of those "bounced", and rest did a whooping 2k dmg.

in my experience, the engine dies just as soon as soneone start to think about shooting at you.

EDIT:

playing this makes me feel like being in a DD, they never seem to have a working engine aswell.

[fnord_disc]

Most of the strengths were obvious from the mined stats, but I'm very surprised how extremely fragile she is. Engine and steering get knocked out all the time, almost as often as on a destroyer, turrets often get knocked out, and the citadel feels very large.

 

The extremely low survivability basically forces you to shoot from ~13-15km, and for that the guns don't really have the necessary oompf. You can hit without much effort due to the great ballistics, but against cruisers the AP is really unreliable at that range and against everything else the HE is trash.

 

I don't think this is a very good ship, to be honest.

[simonmd]

With regards to the lack of AA, it's worth pointing out that you can upgrade her right now pr the princely sum of 1 credit and 1 xp point in the modules section. This vastly improves the AA guns and you can also improve the range of the main guns by 10% as well. Very useful considering how weak she it! I do think the armor needs to be reconsidered though, i've done quite well in all the games I've had with her but only survived one of them so far, pimply put, it is a great ship to catch people off guard in but god help you if they get a chance to return fire! I have managed a couple of citadels with her though so I wouldnt say she doesnt penetrate (Omaha and Furutaka) and I LOVE the arc and accuracy of the guns, once you get your range, you very rarely miss and having 6km torps is a nice bonus over an American CA as well.