Sigh

[YesYesYall]

So, exactly as I feared

 

https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/?item=1529

[StuntMan0369]

Honestly, I think they need that bundle to make it look anywhere near an attractive ship to buy. I didn't think much of the regular tier 4, Myogi, but I'd rather have that than this.

 

Edit: Just to further my point a bit as I was rather vague, lets go over the things it's being praised for on the shop:

 

• Relatively fast - True, it's the same as Myogi, but it's what you'd expect from the Japanese line
• Manoeuvrable - Well, it's rudder shift is nearly a whole second worse than Myogi, and slightly larger turning radius at 740m compared to 730m. 
• "Guns that fire a bit faster than your regular Battleship" - Uhh... its's 30 seconds, as standard for a low tier battleship (mid tiers get around 35, so I suppose that's what they are referencing?)

 

Now, lets get on to other criticism with the ship:

 

• The whole advantage of Japanese battleships is their range superiority, yet the Ishizuchi has a 5.5km shorter range than Myogi, and is out-ranged by most tier 4 and 5 cruisers.
• You do get 10 guns, instead of Myogi's 6, but they are a smaller caliber - 305mm vs 356mm.
• The lack of AA is scary, and it's only 2km, so it will have a couple of seconds max to do any damage - which it wont, as it has only a 3% chance to knock out a plane every second, and that's against an un-upgraded tier 4 carrier!

 

Take it as you will, I'm sure some people will enjoy this ship, but I would not spend my money on it, especially at this rather ridiculous bundle.

[Warlock_hero_defender]

Wow, they doubled up the price with bundle, this is getting funny, rofl.

It was a ship i was looking into, and now Wargaming made my mind up :-), i wont buy it now

[Francois424]

So, exactly as I feared

 

https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/?item=1529

 

Not heading in the right direction.  An uproar is building-up (okay, this is just another drop in the bucket of many other things, but still) and they just keep going.

 

"Iceberg ahead sir" *ding ding ding*

 - Meh we'll just crush it like that last small ice flow.  What's for supper chef?

*BOOM*

[OldGrandad]

Saying that, the dispersion is *great, so wide you can, if lucky get a 'Double Strike' by hitting 2 ships at once! 

 

[YesYesYall]

I actually like the ship, as a cruiser killer. Obviously it falls short against similar BBs. Subjective obviously. 

 

I 'm just whining about the bundle cos I saw this coming and as usual, the bad things I fear happen and the good things I hope for don't. 

 

So it goes.

[Userext]

I actually like the ship, as a cruiser killer. Obviously it falls short against similar BBs. Subjective obviously. 

 

I 'm just whining about the bundle cos I saw this coming and as usual, the bad things I fear happen and the good things I hope for don't. 

 

So it goes.

 

that ship was on sale aalone for a long time....

 

like a really long time

[JapLance]

Having no interest at all on the ship, the interesting point here is that this bastards have removed the stand alone ship and added another bundle.

 

Game over for me, WG.

[aboomination]

It was a ship i was looking into, and now Wargaming made my mind up :-), i wont buy it now

 

This ship is horrible, why would you crave it in the first place? ^^

[trrprrprr]

DOnt get the fuss? So you can get that ship who ever want one and in same time get one month prem time with some flags...so in the end you get that ship for 10euro and bonus flags with 10euro month premium. But yeah, wows have very very very bad premium ships.

[Admiral_noodle]

I think I would only buy that ship in the bundle. And only if it was free

 

[Warlock_hero_defender]

 

This ship is horrible, why would you crave it in the first place? ^^

 

Looking into and craving is wastly different things, if i was craving it , i would have owned it by now

[tomkrist]

I learned as a kid that if the demand was high enough, then you sell more. This means that bundles are sold quite well and wg has no reason
to stop it, as long they sell it. Why should they? So you can say what you want about bundles, or if you like it or not. My point is that
they are selling enough to keep it.

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

Yes, that is the reason why 99% of all posts regarding this issue are negative, and the remaining 1% are troll posts that simply say "deal with it", like yours.

[MrFingers]

Ah, yes, like the commercial of Schweppes:

 

[tomkrist]

Its not troll, its about economy and to understand it. Its very simple. Do you think they would sell bundles if no one was buying it? Really? Think of it. Why should
they? Like a boss saying:"Hey, put out some more bundles. We are not selling anyone but we just do this to get some more negativity from the forum".Well....

 

[Admiral_noodle]

To be fair I would like the doubloons and flags discounted without the awful ship

 

[warlock07rox]

Just typical of Wg milk the Eu again not that I wanted that ship but its still more of the same everything bundled looks like I wont be getting any premium ships at this rate

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

 Its not troll, its about economy and to understand it. Its very simple. Do you think they would sell bundles if no one was buying it? Really? Think of it. Why should
they? Like a boss saying:"Hey, put out some more bundles. We are not selling anyone but we just do this to get some more negativity from the forum".Well....

 

 

Yes... yes... yes, we heards the "it pure economics" [edited] over and over and over....

 

Capitalism is "great", we know, so please, shut the hell up, because we are also so sick of fuckin idiots trying to "explain" obvious crap like this.

 

Anyway, you know what, I follow your point of view "Its an economycs thing", did you ever think about that this may still be not profitable? Look at it this way, they milk out the community right now, as much as possible, and then, when there is no money coming, they switch back to the old days.

 

And then people like you will come and praise them for this.

 

Dont believe me?

 

EA right now gets praised by idiots for not including day one DLC in their upcoming games, something that should be the standard practise is now praised because EA did the opposite for years. And you know what happened when EA had Day one DLC or ingame Cashshops for Microtransactions? They got supported by retarded idiots like you that tryed to "explain" to us how "economics" work.

 

We all know that Wargaming can do this... we ... all ... freaking ... know

 

It still does not result in this not beeing crap beyond repair, a soulless cashgrab.

 

And Wagraming, a Multi Billion Corporation that can pay its CEO enough salary so he can build his own freakin space agency does not [edited] like you that "explain" stuff just to defend it.

 

 

Also, Wargaming is rumored to use strawmen in its forums to provide "pro WG propaganda", you dont happen to be one, do you?

 

 

So... please... mister "I got only a hand full of posts, did not provide anything, but I am the mahadma Ghandi of Economycs", troll somewhere else...

[Bjens]

I was surprised there was no topic relating to this but.. yea, had to check this one before making one of my own and sure enough :p

If this is the so called "October specials" the EU cm was advertising he could probably have saved the effort...

[GODclickerTHEskyEMPEROR]

Why would you buy any ships, when there's EXP/cpt.Exp making monster - Cleveland - for free that you can get to from Tier1 in no more than 2 days.

It's like with WoT, they're selling inferior tanks performance wise but guarantee credits will roll in in abundance.

 

Or in other words, If you're bad and want the credits you would be earning were you any good using free ships - buy premiums.

 

 

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

Only bad players need premium ships?

 

Hmm, so you most likely bought all of them, right?

[Midnightsun1912]

Its not troll, its about economy and to understand it. Its very simple. Do you think they would sell bundles if no one was buying it? Really? Think of it. Why should

they? Like a boss saying:"Hey, put out some more bundles. We are not selling anyone but we just do this to get some more negativity from the forum".Well....

 

 

Does it go well. Take a look at WOWP. They are treating the game like it is already as mucha sucess as WOT. Simple question what can you buy  for Dublons in the game  nearly nothign right now. Still they shove you these package deals down your throat.  For me I fell more and more inclined not to spent  any more money on the game. 

[GODclickerTHEskyEMPEROR]

Only bad players need premium ships?

 

Hmm, so you most likely bought all of them, right?

 

Only bad and sentimental players buy those. Thus I have none. Free ships are stronger, why would I put myself into a disadvantageous position when my only interest is in winning. I want to play only the most strongest OP ships possible, everything else is bs.

[tomkrist]

I did not say i like it. I am really not sure what i am about it. I use to buy some gold with premiums days only,to have it there and speed up some of grinding

with the gold, the ship i have has been sold mostly seperatly. The flags? Lol, i forget theme mostly, i dont think i have ever used a flag in a battle