can we have a tier 10 DD that is capable of

[anonym_gCiyicUsNYGl]

1. shooting up to 18+ kilometers which no T10 cruiser can do

2. 50 knots with flags

3. remaining invisible after setting ships on fire with HE spam

4. having a extreme high rate of fire

[katie111]

Arnt they called Aircraft? 

 

[Un1eash]

Arnt they called Aircraft? 

 

No for 3 reasons below 

 

 50 knots with flags

 remaining invisible after setting ships on fire with HE spam

 having a extreme high rate of fire

[Trigger_Happy_Dad]

np, here you go:

 

 

18+ km gun range with Advanced firing training;

 

almost 50 knots with speed boost  + flags;

 

can do invisi-fire HE spam all day;

 

has extreme hight rate of fire ....

[kfa]

1. shooting up to 18+ kilometers which no T10 cruiser can do

2. 50 knots with flags

3. remaining invisible after setting ships on fire with HE spam

4. having a extreme high rate of fire

 

Dont get too excited, the russian Tier10 is far from OP. To be honest i dont see the point of grinding it, if you already have some kind of US DD, they are so similar, not worth the pain.

 

And the torps... oh that painfully bad torps... the tier6 Mutsuki have better ones for gods sake...

[RAMJB]

 

Dont get too excited, the russian Tier10 is far from OP. To be honest i dont see the point of grinding it, if you already have some kind of US DD, they are so similar, not worth the pain.

 

You obviously haven't seen Ichase streams lately, have you?.

 

And no, US DDs can't do what the high tier soviet DDs can. If anything because they have laughable slow shells so hitting at those ranges is quite complicated, requires a lot of lead, and aiming gets ruined each time the target changes heading.

 

Soviet DD shells have great speed and ballistics, however, negating that disadvantage.

 

BTW what do you want torpedos for when you can be constantly setting cruisers and battleships on fire from 16km, while remaining unseen, and while uncatchable because you're faster than anything else?.

[OldGrandad]

1. shooting up to 18+ kilometers which no T10 cruiser can do

2. 50 knots with flags

3. remaining invisible after setting ships on fire with HE spam

4. having a extreme high rate of fire

 

Sarcasm is rampant in this young padawan!

 

I have sailed her many times and I can assure you it is certainly not an easy ship to sail and remain in one piece (unless you go and hide!).

 

 

You obviously haven't seen Ichase streams lately, have you?.

And no, US DDs can't do what the high tier soviet DDs can. If anything because they have laughable slow shells so hitting at those ranges is quite complicated, requires a lot of lead, and aiming gets ruined each time the target changes heading.

Soviet DD shells have great speed and ballistics, however, negating that disadvantage.

BTW what do you want torpedos for when you can be constantly setting cruisers and battleships on fire from 16km, while remaining unseen, and while uncatchable because you're faster than anything else?.

 

Watching someone else sail the Soviet DD's is not a reflection on how you would sail them. As per my reply to the OP, yes they have their strengths but you have to remain focussed to maintain a safe distance and as with all battles there will be times that you will be seen (CV aircraft anybody?) and if any enemy sees you, say goodbye unless you can extricate yourself easily. The Soviets are inherently weak armour wise and very prone to detonation (same can be said for the German CA's) so believe me, they are not as mighty as some may say, good but certainly not omnipotent! 

 

 

 

 

 

[Userext]

The Soviets are inherently weak armour wise and very prone to detonation (same can be said for the German CA's) so believe me, they are not as mighty as some may say, good but certainly not omnipotent!

 

AKA its a balanced tier 10 DD. There will be a lot of crying in the forums. But thats due to wargaming not giving people a balanced gameplay. 

[ColonelPete]

IJN DD will keep them spotted all day....

[Userext]

IJN DD will keep them spotted all day....

 

nope. Planes damn it planes!

[OVanBruce]

So I just watched the video that was posted here and I can just say one thing: Holy crap that shell arc and speed. I already play USDD as shooting batteries while dodging so yeah, step aside, russian bias coming through.

[Lord_WC]

Wow, I saw a youtube video and now I know everything!

[SerafineSilverstream]

 np, here you go:

 

Except that that thing isn't a destroyer, it's a midget cruiser.

[YggdrasiIl]

Most times there are cv, and later on there will for sure be in clan war and such thing and they perma spot dd's all day long with planes, if it has crap armor it will die fast when ppl learn how to kill it, just like all other dd's. Or do you want a tier 10 ship (yes the top of the tree) not to be able of doing at least hes own hp number in dmg ?

[Cuddly_Spider]

 

AKA its a balanced tier 10 DD. There will be a lot of crying in the forums. But thats due to wargaming not giving people a balanced gameplay. 

 

The game is pretty well balanced. Most peoples version of balanced is "why can't I win all the time!"

[allufewig]

With that ultra- shitty torpedoes (10km range, 56knots, 15100  damage, or 6km range, 53 knots, 19500 damage) of course it needs good stats in other parameters.

 

I still doubt you can even remotely compete with a Zao or DM in terms of artillery-performance.

[Kirasa]

The USSR DDs don't look that imbalanced..

The guns need to be good obviously, since their torps are even worse than the USN ones. And no one thought that was possible.

[GulvkluderGuld]

 

You obviously haven't seen Ichase streams lately, have you?.

 

And no, US DDs can't do what the high tier soviet DDs can. If anything because they have laughable slow shells so hitting at those ranges is quite complicated, requires a lot of lead, and aiming gets ruined each time the target changes heading.

 

Soviet DD shells have great speed and ballistics, however, negating that disadvantage.

 

BTW what do you want torpedos for when you can be constantly setting cruisers and battleships on fire from 16km, while remaining unseen, and while uncatchable because you're faster than anything else?.

 

This US DD captain is certainly going to grind Soviet DDs. It does everything US does (apart from torps) only better.

And who cares about torpedoes if you drive US dds in the first place....

 

Soviet DDs have 9% chance of setting a fire vs 5% on US DDs. 

Their sustained Dps is only 10-20% lower than Gearing's, but with much better ballistics.

#BBQCity!

 

Ducat1st0, on 09 October 2015 - 07:08 AM, said:

Watching someone else sail the Soviet DD's is not a reflection on how you would sail them. As per my reply to the OP, yes they have their strengths but you have to remain focussed to maintain a safe distance and as with all battles there will be times that you will be seen (CV aircraft anybody?) and if any enemy sees you, say goodbye unless you can extricate yourself easily. The Soviets are inherently weak armour wise and very prone to detonation (same can be said for the German CA's) so believe me, they are not as mighty as some may say, good but certainly not omnipotent! 

 

Uhm. Armour?

 

Aren't all DDs built from toiletpaper and duct tape? What do you mean prone to detonations? More so than other DDs - is it possible?

(as I would say this holds true for all dds)

[allufewig]

 

The game is pretty well balanced. Most peoples version of balanced is "why can't I win all the time!"

 

 

The balance is crap Mr. 56-battles-player.

 

Individually and extremely over/underperforming ships everywhere, including premiums (also according to serverstats), fucked up class-balance (DDs bad from midtier, CAs bad in hightier) and nearly zero power-progression in a at least half of the techtrees.

 

Great balance.

[Blaxx]

Yeb Russian DD  is not op seems pretty balanced . I spare some freexp to buy me in. I wanne have the fun from the first hour.

 

[OVanBruce]

Most times there are cv, and later on there will for sure be in clan war and such thing and they perma spot dd's all day long with planes

 

Except glorious proletarian destroyer will be able to fire effectively from the battle line so it won't need to care about planes because it will be covered by the other ships AA.

 

it has crap armor it will die fast when ppl learn how to kill it, just like all other dd's

 

Have fun hitting a DD at long distances unless its driver is a mouthbreather. Also, aiming at a DD with cruisers and a BBs in front of you too.

 

Or do you want a tier 10 ship (yes the top of the tree) not to be able of doing at least hes own hp number in dmg ?

 

Of course tovarische, WG cares of balance that's why they give you stronk soviet ship to make DDs balanced.

[Comrad_StaIin]

1. shooting up to 18+ kilometers which no T10 cruiser can do

 

the Hindenburg and the Roon can

[44smok]

With that ultra- shitty torpedoes (10km range, 56knots, 15100  damage, or 6km range, 53 knots, 19500 damage) of course it needs good stats in other parameters.

 

I still doubt you can even remotely compete with a Zao or DM in terms of artillery-performance. 

Well this thing can do invisible fire from closer range than Zao with a similar damage potential. 

[Userext]

 

The game is pretty well balanced. Most peoples version of balanced is "why can't I win all the time!"

 

Oh you are new here? No the game isnt well balanced after tier 5 IJNDD side goes down hill. Everyone is complaining about the poor high tier destroyer gameplay  

[xxNihilanxx]

 

 

The balance is crap Mr. 56-battles-player.

 

Individually and extremely over/underperforming ships everywhere, including premiums (also according to serverstats), fucked up class-balance (DDs bad from midtier, CAs bad in hightier) and nearly zero power-progression in a at least half of the techtrees.

 

Great balance.

 

This made me chuckle. A few isolated Premiums aside there are currently only two tech trees. To make a statement about "at least half of two" seems redundant. The word you were looking for was One.