Torping my Tachibana?

[Dykeras]

So, very new to the game and managed to get a hold of one of the Tachibana T2 Prem ships from the PC Gamer magazine, and the reception has been terrible...

 

Played 6 games and in each one I was either told to 'Quit game prem newbie' or 'Wallet warrior noob'  etc...

 

And in 4 of the 6 games I was either shot by my fellow players at the very start of the game or they would begin the game by firing torps...

 

 

Tier 2 ffs !!!  It is not as if it is a T8 wallet warrior ship?  No idea why these [edited] had such a problem, but says a lot for the community... Maybe they should go back to WOT.

[Nekomancer]

Haters gonna hate. I don't get it either and strangely no one accused me being a wallet warrior when i rocked in the Murmansk, which honestly, is a bit overpowered.

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

Realy?

 

I mean, I did not play low tier for at least 3 days, but this kind of hatred is new to me.

 

Especialy since everyone knowing, what a Tachibana is and why it is special is an experienced player. So you got flamed by sealclubbers... That is kind of ... wow ... ^^"

 

 

The best way to hurt them back is troll them by giving stupid answers,

[WatchdogCZ]

The best way to hurt them back is troll them by giving stupid answers,

 

When someone is toxic in chat and spews insults around, I either ignore them or, if they are persistent or target me specifically, I tell them "I love you too, honey bunny" or something along those lines. It usually makes them rage quit.

[ColonelPete]

So, very new to the game and managed to get a hold of one of the Tachibana T2 Prem ships from the PC Gamer magazine, and the reception has been terrible...

 

• Member since:
  02-22-2014
• + 201+ games

 

Yes, you are extremly new

 

I never experienced something like that and I saw a lot of premiums ships, inlcuding Tachibanas.

You should know by now that there are strange people playing this game, but they are not the norm. You just had bad luck.

[IamTroublemaker]

I never experienced something like that in my Tachibana, and I fail to realize how that happens to you, since it's somehow hard for me to believe that new players already know about premium ships, especially the one that was never available for purchase

 

[Dykeras]

 

• Member since:
  02-22-2014
• + 201+ games

 

Yes, you are extremly new

 

I never experienced something like that and I saw a lot of premiums ships, inlcuding Tachibanas.

You should know by now that there are strange people playing this game, but they are not the norm. You just had bad luck.

 

Yes, new to WoWs ...  Not new to Wargaming (I have had a WoT/WoWp account - now all stared for a while ) - Why I stated the 'Premium noob' crap belongs back in Wot  

[ShuggieHamster]

Not seen anything like that in my  tachibana but then i tend to ignore anything in chat that isnt tactical or funny.

 

There are some strange people playing this game....   

 

 

[WatchdogCZ]

I never experienced something like that in my Tachibana, and I fail to realize how that happens to you, since it's somehow hard for me to believe that new players already know about premium ships, especially the one that was never available for purchase

 

Quite a few experienced players are playing Tier II Umikaze/Samson now: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/32123-competition-win-a-tacobanana/

[Admiral_noodle]

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What you're not allowed to play your low tier ships anymore after a certain number of games? 

[Orree]

 

What you're not allowed to play your low tier ships anymore after a certain number of games? 

 

Really.  So, if you have no other DDs or decide to start a DD line, you're a "seal-clubbing" [edited] for beginning at the beginning?   You're a [edited] is you genuinely like driving some of the low-tier ships?  

 

Pretty narrow-minded view from from Herr Wischmob, I think.

 

I have a Tachibana.  I don't like driving DDs and am not very good at it.  I don't think this ship is a very good specimen of the species, but somehow I find it kind of fun to drive once or twice a day.  *shrug*    Such a [edited]   :-/

 

 

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

Well, since most people would not go back and play the Kawachi... well...

 

I like the aproach WoT did, where you simply will not be matched together with new players once you reached a certain tier level or ammount of matches. I dont think this is implemented in WoWs right now.

[OldGrandad]

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A pretty pathetic and insulting reply to make. Unlike the other two games in the series this one has a much steeper learning curve and there are those with many times more battles that are still below average. Don't paint others the same way you paint yourself.

 

Quite a few experienced players are playing Tier II Umikaze/Samson now: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/32123-competition-win-a-tacobanana/

 

This was the same reason I created this competition to promote mixing of experienced and inexperienced as playing with better players is a learning experience in itself.

[Doolio]

Tier 2 ffs !!!  It is not as if it is a T8 wallet warrior ship?  No idea why these '[edited] had such a problem, but says a lot for the community... Maybe they should go back to WOT.

 

 'Premium noob' crap belongs back in Wot 

 

You are really good in reinforcing the stereotype you are trying to criticize, though.

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

I stand to what I said.

 

And since all the experienced players realy dont play stuff like the Albany or Kawachi and prefer playing in stuff like the Umikaze, Wakatake or Isokaze I doubt my point of view will change.

 

No, realy, what is a St. Louis or Isokaze with hundreds of games trying to accomplish? It is trying to have a good time by slaying newbs. Most likely with a >3 skill commander, premium consumables etc. The last thing I saw from guys like this is trying to "teach" something.

 

 

EDIT: Oh, and yes, I speak from experience.

 

 

EDIT TWO: Right now I had a guy in my match with over 1k games, in a Minekaze with over 100 games in this ship. What is someone like this trying to teach everyone? That a 5 Skill Minekaze is invisible?

 

The Answer is: Nothing.

 

He is just trying to increase his "stats", wich are sooooo important in this game (and this forum, realy, half the threads resolve around this stuff) by farming himself some newbies.

 

Why should I feel sympathy for someone like this?

[Purple_Alert]

Jealousy maybe? I've got one and only really had others asking where to get one.

[WatchdogCZ]

I stand to what I said.

 

And since all the experienced players realy dont play stuff like the Albany or Kawachi and prefer playing in stuff like the Umikaze, Wakatake or Isokaze I doubt my point of view will change.

 

No, realy, what is a St. Louis or Isokaze with hundreds of games trying to accomplish? It is trying to have a good time by slaying newbs. Most likely with a >3 skill commander, premium consumables etc. The last thing I saw from guys like this is trying to "teach" something.

 

 

EDIT: Oh, and yes, I speak from experience.

 

Like, starting a new tree? Getting enough experience to get to the Omaha from the Saint Luis? And Isokaze is just a great ship, besides, Tier IV is not that low. Some of us do not rush to top Tiers, you know? It is quite expensive.

 

I still play my Diana and Aurora and I plan to play the Tachibana as soon as I get it. In one of my last games with my Umikaze I managed to literally rip the victory from the enemy's hands. Our last cruiser was almost dead with like 5% HP and out of range of the central cap. All five remaining enemy ships were there or almost there, three cruisers and two destroyers, and the cap timer was almost out. I killed them all from minimum range, like 1-3 km, even if the last kill was a "Just a Flesh Wound" one. We won, since we still had that distant cruiser afloat. I would call this a good lesson to members of both teams who had not gone to port after being sunk.

 

Will you call me a scumbag?

[Admiral_noodle]

Well, since most people would not go back and play the Kawachi... well...

 

I like the aproach WoT did, where you simply will not be matched together with new players once you reached a certain tier level or ammount of matches. I dont think this is implemented in WoWs right now.

 

Your generalisations on "all experienced gamers" are poor. Let people play the ships they want. and I hate this idea. How are new players going to learn? If I end up in a tier 2 match in St. Louis I damn well try to teach my team. 

[Dykeras]

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Lol Seriously?    I have a lev 4 DD, Lev 5 BB and a few assorted ships of differing levels

 

I am a Sealclubber because I have not donated all my xp to grinding a single ship line and reaching the dizzy heights of T7/8 and getting beaten by the Alpha/beta testers?

 

 

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[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

Yes, yes I would.

 

 

No, realy, you "teached" something by roflestomping the enemy team? What did "they" learn? That a Umikaze can slaughter them? Yeah, that will surely improve all these "Ship XYZ is so OP" threads, where guys like you then try to shut down the OP because his stats are to low to have a Oppinion of his own.

 

Thats the whole freakin point, one the one hand you show off how awesome you are, ok, and you feel good because you teached them a lesson (in both ways) but in the end, what will they see? "DD OP", "Torps OP", "Buff BB", "Nerf CA", does anything of this sound familiar?

 

 

Again, for some weird reason no "pro" plays the Kawachi and shows the new players how to actually be good in this ship. All you do is teach them how awesome already questionably strong ships can be. Yeah, thats the way...

[WatchdogCZ]

Yes, yes I would.

 

 

No, realy, you "teached" something by roflestomping the enemy team? What did "they" learn? That a Umikaze can slaughter them? Yeah, that will surely improve all these "Ship XYZ is so OP" threads, where guys like you then try to shut down the OP because his stats are to low to have a Oppinion of his own.

 

Thats the whole freakin point, one the one hand you show off how awesome you are, ok, and you feel good because you teached them a lesson (in both ways) but in the end, what will they see? "DD OP", "Torps OP", "Buff BB", "Nerf CA", does anything of this sound familiar?

 

 

Again, for some weird reason no "pro" plays the Kawachi and shows the new players how to actually be good in this ship. All you do is teach them how awesome already questionably strong ships can be. Yeah, thats the way...

 

I was not awesome and I did not roflstomp anyone, I was absolutely desperate, since the enemies cornered me from three directions and I had nowhere to run, so I clenched my teeth and decided to cause as much damage as possible. I expected to maybe kill one of them, if really lucky, maybe two, then lose due to dying and them capping freely.

 

The lesson, albeit coincidential, was, that even in such dire a situation one can still emerge victorious, provided one can confuse the enemy by doing something daring and unexpected. I also showed the enemies and friendlies alike that even the IJN DD's can use both guns and torpedoes and that manoeuvering wildly in close quarters is a life saver and that too many friendlies bunched around a lone enemy can actually hinder one's effectiveness.

 

Oh, and my apologies, I just checked the screenshots, it was actually four cruisers and one destroyer (1x Chester, 1x Umikaze, 2x Erie and 1x Hashidate), they had 6 kills together in that battle before engaging me, each of them at least 1.

[ScratxNeko]

I stand to what I said.

 

And since all the experienced players realy dont play stuff like the Albany or Kawachi and prefer playing in stuff like the Umikaze, Wakatake or Isokaze I doubt my point of view will change. [umm, I like the Kawachi even if I did end up selling it... for that matter might get it back later, I have it on the NA account right now and it reminded me how much fun it can be. And while I skipped the Umikaze, I kept both Wakatake and Isokaze. They're fun. As is the Kawachi.]

 

No, realy, what is a St. Louis or Isokaze with hundreds of games trying to accomplish? It is trying to have a good time by slaying newbs. Most likely with a >3 skill commander, premium consumables etc. The last thing I saw from guys like this is trying to "teach" something. [You know, people play to have fun. If someone has hundreds of games in a low tier ship maybe they're doing it because they're having fun with it. Whether they're seal-clubbing or not is besides the point]

 

 

EDIT: Oh, and yes, I speak from experience.

 

 

EDIT TWO: Right now I had a guy in my match with over 1k games, in a Minekaze with over 100 games in this ship. What is someone like this trying to teach everyone? That a 5 Skill Minekaze is invisible? [Mutsuki is a crap sandwich, Hatsuharu probably isn't much better... I really can't blame anyone for not wanting to progress further in the IJN DD tree. And the Minekaze is a fun ship to drive, so how is that surprising to see people playing it tons? Are you a member of the Anti-Fun League? ]

 

The Answer is: Nothing.

 

He is just trying to increase his "stats", wich are sooooo important in this game (and this forum, realy, half the threads resolve around this stuff) by farming himself some newbies. [Ah, this is your problem. If a player with hundreds and hundreds of matches played isn't exclusively playing tier 7+ then he's a stat padder. Gotcha, nice meeting you.]

 

Why should I feel sympathy for someone like this?

 

[edited]

[Gekko2]

WTH - I kept the St.Louis because it's a great ship, same as the Umikaze. When I log into the game I will often play one of those for a game or two to just get into the game a little (and because for some reason the 1st / 2nd game I play takes over a minute to load, after those games it's just several seconds). I aim to keep a few ships I like across tiers - and I would suggest others do to, there is nothing wrong with it - hence why you don't get the gates locked behind you as you progress in tiers.

[ColonelPete]

I stand to what I said.

 

And since all the experienced players realy dont play stuff like the Albany or Kawachi and prefer playing in stuff like the Umikaze, Wakatake or Isokaze I doubt my point of view will change.

 

No, realy, what is a St. Louis or Isokaze with hundreds of games trying to accomplish? It is trying to have a good time by slaying newbs. Most likely with a >3 skill commander, premium consumables etc. The last thing I saw from guys like this is trying to "teach" something.

 

 

EDIT: Oh, and yes, I speak from experience.

 

 

EDIT TWO: Right now I had a guy in my match with over 1k games, in a Minekaze with over 100 games in this ship. What is someone like this trying to teach everyone? That a 5 Skill Minekaze is invisible?

 

The Answer is: Nothing.

 

He is just trying to increase his "stats", wich are sooooo important in this game (and this forum, realy, half the threads resolve around this stuff) by farming himself some newbies.

 

Why should I feel sympathy for someone like this?

I play the Albany and I like her.

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

I play the Albany and I like her.

 

Thats great to hear, same goes for ScratxNeco. No, realy, that are propably the best "+1" I have spent this week.

 

Anyway, what some of you may miss is the simple fact that basicaly all "XYZ OP" Threads get destroyed by the usual guys that always denie the OP their own oppinion because they dont fit in a certain category, like having a Winrate of X% or getting to tier Y or having Z avg xp.

 

The point is, these complaints of those threads are viable, because 99% of the time these people saw what one of the "pros" did in his little "fun ship". But noooo, the "big guys" dont want to have their toys removed.... 

 

Again, why should I feel sympathy for people like this?

 

 

FYI, I played 3 games during the ongoing conversation in this thread, after these 3 games, I saw the following:

 

2 Kawachi, both players combined had less than 100 games in total.

 

14 IJN DD, despite ending up in tier 6 and 7 matches, Minekaze was top tier DD I saw. Out of these 14 only 2 players had less than 100 battles in total, while 7 had over 100 games just in their Iso- and Minekaze. And yes, I do understand that hunting down noobs is "fun" and "relaxing", but do not complain about "DD OP" or "Torp OP" Threads when crap like this is going on.

 

Especialy when you are supporting this.