anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #1 Posted October 3, 2015 Destroyers are incredibly overpowered due to smokescreens, continuously they pop up from nowhere with volleys of torpedoes, they stay hidden for way too long at quite close range. These smoke screens need to be reduced...unrealistic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #2 Posted October 3, 2015 Smoke screens have already been nerfed, and you really don't need to handicap arguably the weakest class in the game even further. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] SomeoneYouKnow2 Beta Tester 301 posts 13,581 battles Report post #3 Posted October 3, 2015 So play them and prove that they are OP. Oh I see you did play them a little. Did they feel OP to you in your hands? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #4 Posted October 3, 2015 So play them and prove that they are OP. Oh I see you did play them a little. Did they feel OP to you in your hands? I don't play them, you obviously do...overpowered smokescreens are silly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DSF] Arakus Beta Tester 1,541 posts 7,511 battles Report post #5 Posted October 3, 2015 I don't play them, you obviously do...overpowered smokescreens are silly When you don't play them you don't have a clue how difficult playing DD can be. So stop complaining and learn to play! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shulzidar Beta Tester 438 posts 3,506 battles Report post #6 Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) I don't play them, you obviously do...overpowered smokescreens are silly K... So let me get this straight... You see a big pool of smoke floating and you have problems dodging the torps that come out of it?!?!? Play with DDs so you realize that smoke screens are the last resource of a DD Captain because it's telling EVERY1.. "HEY! There is a DD around here". I wish to find more players like you that get close to a smokescreen... Sadly player skill increases at high tiers, meaning they all know what the cloud is advertising. Following your logic... Islands are also OP because... They hide the DDs so it can torp you before you can shoot it... LETS REMOVE ALL MAPS AND PLAY ALL BATTLES IN OCEAN!!!! Edited October 3, 2015 by shulzidar 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #7 Posted October 3, 2015 I don't play them, you obviously do...overpowered smokescreens are silly You do play them actually you have 17 battles in DDs with ABYSMAL performace yet you claim the are OP? interesting And if somescreens are such a problem theres a great solution for that if you use your brain....just dont come near them...simple isnt it? any ship that gets close to smokescreen unless its a cruiser with sonar active is an idiot and deserves to die 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sub_Eleven Players 1,225 posts Report post #8 Posted October 3, 2015 Stay at least 5k away from smokescreen and you'll be fine torpedo wise. A decent cruiser captain can easily flush dd's out and most likely sink the dd if they get some team support. Really don't see the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BNBS] Sybeck Players 466 posts 11,502 battles Report post #9 Posted October 3, 2015 OP has a point! I went too near a smoke screen and my eyes were watering and stinging for hours afterwards leaving me unable to focus. Nerf it or equip captains with suitable goggles! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister_Greek Supertester 1,046 posts 4,551 battles Report post #10 Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) This is the 3rd or the 4th time you create a similar topic.Because you starting to piss me off and the rest of the community also,either play them and prove your point Edited October 3, 2015 by Mister_Greek Insult 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger_Happy_Dad Beta Tester 6,753 posts 7,907 battles Report post #11 Posted October 3, 2015 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] woppy101 Beta Tester 613 posts 10,609 battles Report post #12 Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) OP if you are enough to go near a big cloud of smoke then you get everything you deserve Edited October 3, 2015 by semm Insult Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8balldk Alpha Tester 37 posts 2,474 battles Report post #13 Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Tray play it first and see if it so OP.. It's the same thing again and again form you! And if you read your own last topic to you could see in poll and on comments that smoke is fine, but i guess you not like the Info you get and just make new same topic Edited October 3, 2015 by 8balldk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuddly_Spider Players 401 posts 4,953 battles Report post #14 Posted October 3, 2015 You made a poll on this. http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/32470-smoke-clouds/ 90% of people disagreed with you, and virtually 99% of people don't want such screens scrapped. You're basically asking for a mechanic to be adjusted to suit you to the cost of the vast majority of the playerbase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semm Alpha Tester 257 posts 4,561 battles Report post #15 Posted October 3, 2015 Guys please keep calm and write constructive posts . Don't argue under the topics please. Good luck & Have fun Captains ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #16 Posted October 3, 2015 Guys please keep calm and write constructive posts . Don't argue under the topics please. Good luck & Have fun Captains ! Well put semm, whether or not people agree with another persons post does not justify the little insults, Everyones has/and is entitled to an opinion, right or wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAVOC] Niibler Players 723 posts Report post #17 Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Statistics prove that DD's are the most underpowered class so logic dictates your argument is false. Edited October 3, 2015 by Niibler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #18 Posted October 3, 2015 Statistics prove that DD's are the most underpowered class so logic dictates your argument is false. Yes they are difficult, but they just pop up from nowhere with a volley of torps, that is just silly, but it's my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XJACK] Mooncatt Beta Tester 66 posts 528 battles Report post #19 Posted October 3, 2015 i used to play BBs but since i believe that manual torp drops are op i went over to DDs. they are NOT easy to play by any stretch of the imagination, especially the US line at low tier. 5km torps with a higher surface detection range make them hard to play. a decent salvo from a CC or BB is enough to make your day a bad one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #20 Posted October 3, 2015 Statistics prove that DD's are the most underpowered class so logic dictates your argument is false. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #21 Posted October 3, 2015 Guys please keep calm and write constructive posts . Don't argue under the topics please. Good luck & Have fun Captains ! People are fed up of this thread and DD and ex DD drivers feel specially enraged for this kind of threads because it's thanks to these that high tier DDs are on their worst moment. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree But they do, just because most players at lower tiers don't know how to deal with DDs doesn't mean they are OP, specially when you watch at higher tier DDs being made useless thanks to people actually knowing how to deal with then. Have you ever seen a "DDs OP" thread from someone driving a tier VIII ship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #22 Posted October 3, 2015 I suppose we will have to agree to disagree There is nothing to disagree on. Destroyers are the worst class in the game performance wise. Up until tier 5 they are alright since people don't know how to dodge torpedoes or have less map awareness, but on higher tiers the torpedo reloads turn into minutes, carriers have more planes in the air to spot both the DD's and the torps, players are more aware of the threat that torpedoes pose and all the guns shooting back at you get much bigger where your HP pool barely grows any larger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XJACK] Mooncatt Beta Tester 66 posts 528 battles Report post #23 Posted October 3, 2015 There is nothing to disagree on. Destroyers are the worst class in the game performance wise. Up until tier 5 they are alright since people don't know how to dodge torpedoes or have less map awareness, but on higher tiers the torpedo reloads turn into minutes, carriers have more planes in the air to spot both the DD's and the torps, players are more aware of the threat that torpedoes pose and all the guns shooting back at you get much bigger where your HP pool barely grows any larger. i dunno mate, ive done 85k torp dmg with my t4 dd before...i avg 40k i dont see many other tiers doing the same dmg on a regular basis.....of course im not a great player with other ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #24 Posted October 3, 2015 i dunno mate, ive done 85k torp dmg with my t4 dd before...i avg 40k i dont see many other tiers doing the same dmg on a regular basis.....of course im not a great player with other ships Like I said, tier 5 and below DD's have alright/good performance due to short torpedo reloads and a general lack of player skill, where as when you progress above tier 5 performance drops quite a bit due to reasons I listed in my above post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #25 Posted October 3, 2015 The only thing about smokescreens i would change is, that if oyu are in it, you should see just as little as someone ourside it. The problem is that a DD is sitting inside the smoke can still spot everything and torp around happily. It should be a defensive feature, not for offense. Right now many DD's just sail close to the enemy, pop smoke and torp him form safety .. Smoke fine, but you shouldnt be able to spot out of the smoke, just like the bush you are behind in WoT also reduces your view range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
