new players are just gonna quit the game if you still continue with draws

[anonym_gCiyicUsNYGl]

i played 3 games in a tier 4 ship today which i haven't done in a long time and i just remembered why i stopped doing it

 

 

you give me a draw regardless of having their base captured up to 90% and with more ships in my team? you give me a second draw although there are 4 ships in my team and 1 in the opposite team?
new players will be demoralized because of this and possibly quit.

 

just how hard is it to understand what a draw really is?

[Ranzir]

Camp less, play more next time, it is pretty simple really.

[anonym_gCiyicUsNYGl]

looking at your stats, i see you play DD.

 

maybe you haven't realized it yet but not everyone can end up on the other side of the map in a matter of minutes and please try to understand that camping =/= draws, goddammit this forum is reminding me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCdkqP2GwWo

[StuntMan0369]

A draw: Isn't this when neither team wins? 

 

Put simply, you didn't achieve victory conditions in the time allocated. Now, that may be your fault, someone else's fault or just the enemy team did enough to delay you from winning, but that's what happens.

 

I do kinda like the idea of replacing the Standard Battle mode with 2 point Domination, but I doubt that'll happen any time soon.

[Ranzir]

looking at your stats, i see you play DD.

 

maybe you haven't realized it yet but not everyone can end up on the other side of the map in a matter of minutes and please try to understand that camping =/= draws, goddammit this forum is reminding me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCdkqP2GwWo

 

As far as I know every game mode have same 20 min duration. Please tell me which ships can't make their way and cap in that time ?

[anonym_gCiyicUsNYGl]

 

As far as I know every game mode have same 20 min duration. Please tell me which ships can't make their way and cap in that time ?

 

"yeh bruuh just dive into our base and try to cap so we can kill u and win without effort, ez gaming heh"

[Ranzir]

 

"yeh bruuh just dive into our base and try to cap so we can kill u and win without effort, ez gaming heh"

 

If you use that tactic you will get only draws and defeats... and that is all you deserve. If you don't play for the win, then you don't get wins... simple really.

[Bortasqu]

Well, the Kuma is a piece of floating garbage to be honest, so I feel with you there.

 

Division up with more peeps that knows what they are doing, and you will (hopefully) break the draw cycle soon.

[fnord_disc]

I get like 1 draw out of 100...

[Naatibus]

There is a draw result?? jk jk but i only like got three of them since i started playing..

[Sub_Eleven]

New players are gonna quit the game if we continue posting whine threads on the forum about everything.

 

Fixed.

 

And yes, I agree. :3

[Bortasqu]

 

Fixed.

 

And yes, I agree. :3

 

Newsflash: New players doesn't read the forum. They just install game, play it, then un-install the game when they grow bored of it.

 

Tier 3-5 seems to be the sweet-spot for the newcommers when they quit, when they realize that they will most likely never reach the ship that they want within reasonable time. (That isn't 6 months with freemium.)

[ShuggieHamster]

think I've got 5 draws out of 168 (ok, small sample)

not seeing draws as being that major an issue and I play at the T4-5 level but thats just what I've seen in a small sample.

I dont see a lot of camping, usually its too much aggression from one side or other that wins or loses fast.

if it was to be addressed ... a 5 min sudden death 'extra period' would be enough. most draws would be resolved in that time. if you cant win it in that time, you'll never win.

 

[Figment]

Havn't seen a draw in weeks. Not even sure how you manage them at this point since it is virtually guaranteed by the new rules there are winners. So uhm... Play better?

 

[Rebeldad1]

Draws are not what will chase new players away.

[Doolio]

While draws and full duration matches in general are a bit more prominent than in, for example, WoT, they are still extremely rare.

 

And, I don't get what's wrong with a draw? It's a legitimate outcome of a match. Neither team won. Victory condition wasn't met. Also, there's a valid tactical element to it (I personally don't go by that philosophy, but that doesn't make it any less valid) - denying the victory for the other team. If you pull a draw out of 1v4, you denied the other team victory, made them work for it and fail to capitalize on what they've built, and didn't go "ok, I am the only one left, kill me and let's get this over with, a draw's multiplier is the same as with a loss".

[anonym_gCiyicUsNYGl]

While draws and full duration matches in general are a bit more prominent than in, for example, WoT, they are still extremely rare.

 

And, I don't get what's wrong with a draw? It's a legitimate outcome of a match. Neither team won. Victory condition wasn't met. Also, there's a valid tactical element to it (I personally don't go by that philosophy, but that doesn't make it any less valid) - denying the victory for the other team. If you pull a draw out of 1v4, you denied the other team victory, made them work for it and fail to capitalize on what they've built, and didn't go "ok, I am the only one left, kill me and let's get this over with, a draw's multiplier is the same as with a loss".

 

you have to be actually mentally insane to assume a draw is completely legitimate if you have 4 ships alive opposed to the enemy only having one, why not introduce a game mode called "dont lose one ship or its a draw" while you're at it? im sure with your attitude, you wouldn't mind it at all.

 

Havn't seen a draw in weeks. Not even sure how you manage them at this point since it is virtually guaranteed by the new rules there are winners. So uhm... Play better?

 

 

although i pretty much put you into the dumpster each time we faced off in matchmaking, i wouldn't act so smug and edgy and since your reading comprehension is very poor, i will again remind you this only happens in tier 4 or below and if you actually took time to read the patch notes, you would understand it's not "virtually guaranteed" since it only affect certain tiers

 

 

[AgarwaenME]

 

you have to be actually mentally insane to assume a draw is completely legitimate if you have 4 ships alive opposed to the enemy only having one, why not introduce a game mode called "dont lose one ship or its a draw" while you're at it? im sure with your attitude, you wouldn't mind it at all.

 

 

although i pretty much put you into the dumpster each time we faced off in matchmaking, i wouldn't act so smug and edgy and since your reading comprehension is very poor, i will again remind you this only happens in tier 4 or below and if you actually took time to read the patch notes, you would understand it's not "virtually guaranteed" since it only affect certain tiers

 

 

 

Or maybe you have to be "mentally insane" to believe that merely having more ships alive makes you deserve a win. Well not really, but going on a tirade of personal attacks sure doesn't make your points seem any more worthwhile. There are tactics that more or less will ensure that your team will have more ships alive, but those same tactics also tend to cause draws. And quite frankly, you've been lucky to get the WR you have, so why complain that you get a draw now and then?

 

As it is, draws are more common in mid and high tiers than in low tiers, due to the small maps, and newbie players willingness and great ability to get themselves sunk.

[Talladega_Night]

30 draws over 600+ battles, nothing to complain about.

[canuckster]

I have far fewer draws now since the new domination mode was introduced, big  to WG. It's become a non issue now for me.

[Ranzir]

 

you have to be actually mentally insane to assume a draw is completely legitimate if you have 4 ships alive opposed to the enemy only having one, why not introduce a game mode called "dont lose one ship or its a draw" while you're at it? im sure with your attitude, you wouldn't mind it at all.

 

 

If standard game mode would give automatic win to team with more ships then we would actually get game mode called 'don't lose one ship or it is a lose'. It would mean 2 fleets camping in formation for 20 minutes since losing one ship could mean lose. Cap mechanism is in place to motivate teams to actually move, force players to take risks and teams to use tactics for win. Could be easily summed up: camp = no win.

[praetor_jax]

 

you have to be actually mentally insane to assume a draw is completely legitimate if you have 4 ships alive opposed to the enemy only having one, why not introduce a game mode called "dont lose one ship or its a draw" while you're at it? im sure with your attitude, you wouldn't mind it at all.

 

They have already reduced about 90% of the draws by having the team with the highest score win even if the goal was not matched. If people keep getting too many draws it may be due to BBs camping in the back while everybody else is dead.

 

That said if you loo at it more reasonable -  a result in which 4 ships of one side are left aginst one ship of the other side would be a phyrric victory at best, especially if no significant territories were secured. Calling it a draw might be very well appropriate.

 

Edit: Also thanks for calling me and others mentally insane. Grow up.

[OldGrandad]

i played 3 games in a tier 4 ship today which i haven't done in a long time and i just remembered why i stopped doing it

 

 

you give me a draw regardless of having their base captured up to 90% and with more ships in my team? you give me a second draw although there are 4 ships in my team and 1 in the opposite team?

new players will be demoralized because of this and possibly quit.

 

just how hard is it to understand what a draw really is?

 

Well, 3 out of 4 games is hardly statistically sound is it? Draws are legitimate, firstly due to neither side completing the objective of that particular battle mode.

 

Also, you have massive experience in the Kuma (248 battles out of your 624 battle total) so you would have known of your ships capability of returning to a cap in a suitable amount of time.

 

"yeh bruuh just dive into our base and try to cap so we can kill u and win without effort, ez gaming heh"

 

Why are you being sarcastic when someone actually laid out a polite response?

 

you have to be actually mentally insane to assume a draw is completely legitimate if you have 4 ships alive opposed to the enemy only having one, why not introduce a game mode called "dont lose one ship or its a draw" while you're at it? im sure with your attitude, you wouldn't mind it at all.

 

although i pretty much put you into the dumpster each time we faced off in matchmaking, i wouldn't act so smug and edgy and since your reading comprehension is very poor, i will again remind you this only happens in tier 4 or below and if you actually took time to read the patch notes, you would understand it's not "virtually guaranteed" since it only affect certain tiers

 

No matter what tier you play, always study the map and not just what appears in your scope of view. For a match to become a draw is not a failing of the game but the players within that battle themselves. Fortunately with modified game modes draws are very much less frequent and as for lower tiers which was the focus of you OP, they are fine. I, through testing new ships have played more lower tier battles than you care to mention and none resulted in a draw. Again, not a pure statistical representation, but a complete opposite experience as to what you had, but pretty much gives a more representative example than yours.

 

Bottom line is, look at the map more often during the battle to watch enemy movements and make decisions based on that, you may actually do better in future! 

[El_Pollo_Locooo]

I have far fewer draws now since the new domination mode was introduced, big  to WG. It's become a non issue now for me.

 

They forgot to indroduce that on the map that is the draw simulator, "Ocean".

[mtm78]

Well, the Kuma is a piece of floating garbage to be honest, so I feel with you there.

 

Division up with more peeps that knows what they are doing, and you will (hopefully) break the draw cycle soon.

 

 

Kuma such a floating piece of garbage 

 

Anyway, I got 6% draws. Imo, if you complain about draws you're either:

 

1) A bad player

2) unable to read the victory conditions. 

3) A bad player unable to read the victory conditions.

 

I'm actually proud on most of those draws, because each and everyone one I feel had been a defeat if I hadn't played my best to deny the enemy a undeserved victory.