Question about premiums in this game

[trrprrprr]

So ive been wondering about premiums and seen rewards for them. Why need to buy premium ship, if you can make close to that in a good battle even with Colorado? Ok free exp and crew training i get that. But looking to lots of Murmansk screen shots with cred gain...its not alot of a upgrade. Compared to wot, where credit income was alot more noticable. Its 2x more here, but prem income is not 2x higher compared to all other stat gain.

 

 

I will never pay 50euro for a premium ship as it doesnt give me the results i would expect from that expensive pixel.  As i was wanting to buy a murmansk, as all claim to be a great credit earner....but that % of extra credit premium ship produce isnt that much.  Or maby ive seen all non premium acc gains, but 280k cred from a good battle is manageable in non premium ships too.

 

As i understand, that higher tiers require extra credit maker ship, but anyone could show me any reasonable/average comparison on prem vs standart ship credit gain in equal game output?

 

Sorry for my english and thanks in advance!

[Yorkie_GBR]

The way I see it is like this. 

 

On a bad day I can earn 150k in my Murmansk, on a bad day in a Omaha I earn 80k.

 

On a good day I earn 200k - 250k in my Murmansk and on a good day I earn 120k in my Omaha. 

 

These are on a non prem account, and the figures are obviously not 100% accurate, but give you the idea.

 

I don't have to try to earn money in a Murmansk, simply turning up will get me a profit you can't say that with an Omaha, that you have to work for it. 
 

 

/edit to clarify as people are having reading difficulties today, and the figures to be less..erm... "out there"

[Kenliero]

I agree. Having my "average" 2-3 kill game will give "only" that 200k credits is really poor. How come it requires 7 kill game to even get 400k. You can easily get 200k games with average carriergame. Now imagine below average players getting only 100k with premium. Bonus should be bigger.

[Barkyro]

Be careful tho since the economy is really badly designed for high tier premiums. You really have to work your [edited]off in a Atago for example to make a good profit. It is a huge difference between this game's T8 prems and WoT's T8 prems. I can simply turn up and run around a bit in my CDC and I will still come out with some type of profit in my Atago if I play badly I can loose a shitload of credits so in my opinion do not buy high tier premiums until this gets sorted out unless you really like the ship as in my case.

[T0byJug]

for me the main reason for a Prem Ship is Commander training.

 

When you put a commander in a new ship for credits you commander has to has to retrain. Untill this is done  many of his skills are ether 50% or not active at all! This can be a big problem.However you can get this XP on  a commander in a Prem ship with all skills you have on him at 100%.

I am only at tier 6 at moment but often when i put a comander in a new ship,will play that commander on one of my Prem ships till he is trained up completly and then start using the new ship.

[Kenliero]

The way I see it is like this. 

 

On a bad day I can earn 150k in my Murmansk, on a bad day in a Omaha I earn 80k.

 

On a good day I earn 380k - 450k in my Murmansk and on a good day I earn 120k in my Omaha. 

 

These are on a non prem account, and the figures are obviously not 100% accurate, but give you the idea.

 

I don't have to try to earn money in a Murmansk, simply turning up will get me a profit you can't say that with an Omaha, that you have to work for it. 

Getting 450k in Murmansk in a good day without premium is pure BS. I have never gotten 450k in Murmansk WITH premium, not even with 7 kill games.

[Adwaenyth]

I agree. Having my "average" 2-3 kill game will give "only" that 200k credits is really poor. How come it requires 7 kill game to even get 400k. You can easily get 200k games with average carriergame. Now imagine below average players getting only 100k with premium. Bonus should be bigger.

 

You should't compare extremes... On a really good battle with Tirpitz it can go way beyond 800k (even without flags), highest I've seen so far was something around 1.2 million credits for a single battle in a T8 prem.

[Barkyro]

 Getting 450k in Murmansk in a good day without premium is pure BS. I have never gotten 450k in Murmansk WITH premium, not even with 7 kill games.

 

Best I did in my only real premium I have, the Atago is around 320k and that is really poor since in a good CV match I can get the same.

[Yorkie_GBR]

Getting 450k in Murmansk in a good day without premium is pure BS. I have never gotten 450k in Murmansk WITH premium, not even with 7 kill games.

 

Someone needs to brush up on their reading skills. 

[Hurme_Ulina]

Every now and then I get these kind of results in murma

 

 

But usually I get 300k-400k net profit with her, like in this screenshot.

 

 

I do run premium account but I didn't use Zulu in neither of these matches.

[inAbag]

So ive been wondering about premiums and seen rewards for them. Why need to buy premium ship, if you can make close to that in a good battle even with Colorado? Ok free exp and crew training i get that. But looking to lots of Murmansk screen shots with cred gain...its not alot of a upgrade. Compared to wot, where credit income was alot more noticable. Its 2x more here, but prem income is not 2x higher compared to all other stat gain.

 

 

I will never pay 50euro for a premium ship as it doesnt give me the results i would expect from that expensive pixel.  As i was wanting to buy a murmansk, as all claim to be a great credit earner....but that % of extra credit premium ship produce isnt that much.  Or maby ive seen all non premium acc gains, but 280k cred from a good battle is manageable in non premium ships too.

 

As i understand, that higher tiers require extra credit maker ship, but anyone could show me any reasonable/average comparison on prem vs standart ship credit gain in equal game output?

 

Sorry for my english and thanks in advance!

 

I would advize you to just run an Omaha if you want to make credits and not spend money. I have a Murmansk but the reason I play it is because I find that ship very fun to play and I know I won't be playing my regular Omaha once I have the Cleveland.

[Kenjiro_]

Can you train a commander from a different nationality on a premium ship? A Japanese captain on Murmansk perhaps?

[WatchdogCZ]

Well, some Premium ships are a collector's thing. Diana, Mikasa, Tachibana, Gremyashchy etc.

[Yorkie_GBR]

Can you train a commander from a different nationality on a premium ship? A Japanese captain on Murmansk perhaps?

 

No only from the same nation, but any class. 

[El_Pollo_Locooo]

The way I see it is like this. 

 

On a bad day I can earn 150k in my Murmansk, on a bad day in a Omaha I earn 80k.

 

On a good day I earn 380k - 450k in my Murmansk and on a good day I earn 120k in my Omaha. 

 

These are on a non prem account, and the figures are obviously not 100% accurate, but give you the idea.

 

I don't have to try to earn money in a Murmansk, simply turning up will get me a profit you can't say that with an Omaha, that you have to work for it. 

Cough.. [edited].. Cough..

[Yorkie_GBR]

Cough.. [edited].. Cough..

 

Read the 4th line again.

 

Do you think I should put that in bold? or make it more obvious?

[Adwaenyth]

Can you train a commander from a different nationality on a premium ship? A Japanese captain on Murmansk perhaps?

 

That is not possible.

[trrprrprr]

Thank you all for great info. Atm im still climbing to tier 8 and prolly wont have problem with credits there still. So wont spend money on murmansk and maby later get high tier Prem for that, when/if they sort out that balance between prem/non prem income.

[Mr_Gibbins]

I am pretty underwhelmed by the Tier 7 and 8 premium ships on offer, not because they don't perform well in battle, but because the simply don't match the benefits offered by equivalent tanks in WoT.

 

Any xp earned is only convertible by the use of doubloons, rather than having the convert xp to training available in wot, this feels like a pushy move to force the buying of doubloons.  The credit earning potential also feels a little lower.

 

When you get to tier 8 normal ships it seems that the credits earned per battle is also pretty punishing for anything less than an average performance, and not especially rewarding for a good one.  For example, my first battle in Amagi, with only the engine upgrade, was a surprisingly good battle.  I did 130k damage, 5 citadel hits, 3 kills and I cleared about 120k credits for it with a premium account.  A battle with 60k damage done breaks about even and anything less starts to cost a lot.  My gut feeling is that these figures are going to be even worse at tier 10, making it near impossible to play at higher tiers without premium account and or ships to farm the cash needed.

 

This opinion may change, but I have a feeling it is contributing to the seeming lack of players at higher tiers as the grind really kicks in.  Obviously fewer players have reached that tier anyway, but at the moment I am feeling like I won't be sticking with ships like I did with tanks for many years.  Which is sad really as I was really looking forward to this game.

 

As regards buying a premium ship, I probably wouldn't bother with the Atlanta, Atago or Tirpitz if I had to make a choice again, I would get a Murmansk and just flamethrower people for the money and not spend a penny more on anything else.

[mtm78]

Getting 450k in Murmansk in a good day without premium is pure BS. I have never gotten 450k in Murmansk WITH premium, not even with 7 kill games.

 

I was about to say hell no it ain't, and post a ss of me with 490k or something, but then I realised this was CBT with higher income 

 

 

[Kenliero]

 

Someone needs to brush up on their reading skills. 

 

Nothing wrong with my reading skills. 2 different people already quoted you for that fictional 380-450k damage. The fact that you edited it later and try to blame my reading skills is kinda pathetic attempt to cover your own mistake.

Just admit it, you put the wrong numbers there first.

 

That is history now. Glad you fixed it, and now the numbers look ok to me. No hard feelings.

[Yorkie_GBR]

 

Nothing wrong with my reading skills. 2 different people already quoted you for that fictional 380-450k damage. The fact that you edited it later and try to blame my reading skills is kinda pathetic attempt to cover your own mistake.

Just admit it, you put the wrong numbers there first.

 

That is history now. Glad you fixed it, and now the numbers look ok to me. No hard feelings.

 

Please look at your post where it has clearly not been edited. And look at teh 4th row which I have now put in bold, again which was not edited. 

[Kenliero]

 

Please look at your post where it has clearly not been edited. And look at teh 4th row which I have now put in bold, again which was not edited. 

 

I understand that your point here is that "they were not suppose to be 100% accurate".... well the difference in your previous numbers and new numbers is massive +100%... so... it kinda makes huge difference... But you know what, I really have no intention to start arguing about stupid little detail like this. If it's too hard for you to admit that you put wrong numbers there first, then go ahead. Do what ever you want, I don't care.

[bismark121]

Every now and then I get these kind of results in murma

 

 

But usually I get 300k-400k net profit with her, like in this screenshot.

 

 

I do run premium account but I didn't use Zulu in neither of these matches.

Neither of these results are possible on a regular basis at 

east and correct  me if im wrong but im sure they have nerfed the credit income of the murmansk

[bismark121]

 

I understand that your point here is that "they were not suppose to be 100% accurate".... well the difference in your previous numbers and new numbers is massive +100%... so... it kinda makes huge difference... But you know what, I really have no intention to start arguing about stupid little detail like this. If it's too hard for you to admit that you put wrong numbers there first, then go ahead. Do what ever you want, I don't care.

Dude you need clam down he was just pointing out an obvious blunder you made there is no need to get so defensive and rude about this