Merged MM threads

[aboch]

In my opinion this is the non plus ultra MM fail. I have a lot of understandings for a lot of MM issues, but this battle was the biggest fail ever i think and i doubt someone can top that one.

Where is the deal to setup a team with about 0.00001% win chance? I'am aware that at late hours it is difficult to find other tier 9 and 10 ships but either make them wait a bit longer or give the other team at least some ships that makes them have at least some chance to actually win it. 

And no, i normally do not make any whine threads about everything, but a battle that is lost bevor it begun does not mean any fun at all!

Anybody can top that MM fail?

 

 

[Toukster]

im not sure how you expected the MM to deal with a tier 10 division so early in the morning when the server population is so low. I realize your not one of the guys in the division however even playing tier 8 at this kind of time is risky as far as the MM goes. I stick to 6 at the highest this early in the morning..

[aboch]

im not sure how you expected the MM to deal with a tier 10 division so early in the morning when the server population is so low. I realize your not one of the guys in the division however even playing tier 8 at this kind of time is risky as far as the MM goes. I stick to 6 at the highest this early in the morning..

 

Look, even the tier 10 are not the real problem. I'am well aware that at this time the server population is low for high tiers. But than again, either make it wait a bit more so at least some tier 9 get in or give some more ships so at least the weak team is not stuck with 0.001% win chance but maybe 30 or 40 which makes at least some sense to play. Let's say evem 2x tier 7 DDs additionally would have made a bit more excited and interesting than just getting shoot and torped from distance without even being able to do crap......

Strange enough, i just finished another game right now 1x tier 9 vs. 3x tier 9. None of the tier 9s in division by the way. So damn, what is that hard when there are 4x tier 9 and rest all tier 8 to give each team just 2x tier 9????

[Toukster]

Im pretty sure that having a division of 3 tier 10s is a real problem for the MM when there on less than 3000 people on the server but i suppose your entitled to complain even when given a perfectly good explanation as to why the MM is so bad at this time of day.

 

As for adding other ships like tier 7 dds - that would leave those tier 7's fighting tier 10's and i for one wouldnt like to do that. It would just result in the guys driving those tier 7's coming here and whining about the MM.

[AgarwaenME]

Im pretty sure that having a division of 3 tier 10s is a real problem for the MM when there on less than 3000 people on the server but i suppose your entitled to complain even when given a perfectly good explanation as to why the MM is so bad at this time of day.

 

As for adding other ships like tier 7 dds - that would leave those tier 7's fighting tier 10's and i for one wouldnt like to do that. It would just result in the guys driving those tier 7's coming here and whining about the MM.

 

Thing is, those people making those divisions knows it will be. They're not making them to get interesting battles, but to get battles they will win.

[Flavonov]

Yeah, it's kind of tough to balance getting into an unbalanced match vs. ridiculous waiting times in times when there's not a lot of people on the server.

[DestoryerO_o]

heh, replace one Tirp, or Atago in team on the left with one or two T5-T7 IJN destroyers and problem solved

(then the other side would QQ tho)

 

BTW, creating T10 3player division at 1+ in the morning has obvious goal: to get matches like the one mentioned above.

Interesting way to grind WR for those who are obsessed with it.

 

LOL - just noticed..  Youtuber Aerroon is in that division That guy has some nice vids from far better balanced engagements.

[Goktsu]

Tonight played 11 games with a III  out of 9 games i faced IV and V

Are  the game developers trying to drive us out this game or what?

Your ship ends up being like a headless chicken vs higher tier ship, you barely damage them ,they faster have better guns better armor. Fix the damn match making system FFS

Now i have resorted to just leave the game and join with another ship where it least ill be lucky to face similar tier to mine.

This is really killing this game.

 

 

[GeneralHorstPital]

Well, there are hardly any tier 4 and 5 ships that have the armor of the St.Louis. Same goes for the guns. The St.Louis can damage everything on tier 5. And she has about the same HP as tier 5 cruisers.

Yes, other ships are faster than her, but that´s also the case on tier 3.

The only real problem are aircraft.

 

The point is: The game developers can´t help it if not enough tier 3 players are online at a certain time. So the only alternative would be to make you wait for 10 minutes to join a match. Most people would complain about that, too.

 

 

[superdashi]

Usually, i laugh about all those crying kids complaining about mm when they are not top tier. I don't do that, i just try to do my best. It doesn't even frustrate me at all if i was matched badly. Another game, i was matched nicely. No big deal.

But getting matched in a 1vs1 scenario, and then again vs. an opponent 2 tiers higher is really ridicolous. I'd rather wait the next 10 minutes, please stop such mm!

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a1a5cficiueppe5/Amagivsshimakaze.jpg?dl=0

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ps965bjqz8mrib0/Tirpitzvsyamato.jpg?dl=0

 

 

[Sander93]

Thing is, those people making those divisions knows it will be. They're not making them to get interesting battles, but to get battles they will win.

 

I agree. Yesterday morning I met Pape who was doing the same and when I spoke up about it he acted all innocent ''I'm just playing my CV". Yeah, playing his tier 10 CV with two tier 10s in division at 10 o'clock in the morning, like that would never screw up the matchmaking.  IMO it's really lame and quite a pathetic attempt at boosting the win ratio at the expense of others. I deliberately keep my high tier ships in port until later on the day, but apparently such chivalry is hard to find with others. 

[Jester86]

In the name of balancing the argument, people should be able to play whatever ships they want, when they want. It isn't the players fault no one else is playing a Tier 10 at that time.

[__Katniss__]

If you want ta play with balanced MM on tier 8+ you need 20k+ players online. Problem solved. That troll tier 10 division knew they could play almost every game like that.

[Admiral_Noif]

Tier III (example St. Louis) can deal tier 4-5 well, if you play well like GeneralHorstPital told on above message. Also tier III destroyer have no problem to deal 1-2 higher tiers. Tier 3 battleship (kawachi and south carolina) can also deal too if she don't go for suicide mission.

[OldGrandad]

Tonight played 11 games with a III  out of 9 games i faced IV and V

Are  the game developers trying to drive us out this game or what?

Your ship ends up being like a headless chicken vs higher tier ship, you barely damage them ,they faster have better guns better armor. Fix the damn match making system FFS

Now i have resorted to just leave the game and join with another ship where it least ill be lucky to face similar tier to mine.

This is really killing this game.

 

Just had a poor game? The tier spread now is acceptable, did you complain when in your tier 3 you were against tiers 1 and 2?, of course not! I have more fun in a lower tier as there is no shame in losing to a higher tier but if you do well against higher tiers the rewards are so much better.

[caldark]

Wait you lost ? ;)

[caldark]

what time of day did you try and play? I would guess its a time when no one is on right ?

[Aldramelech]

The match maker follows the rules AS LONG AS THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE PLAYING FOR IT TO DO SO, if your playing at 3am when there are 500 people online then your going to get strange games.

[Hanszeehock]

I actually think it is pathetic that supposedly great CV players feel the need to Division up like this. It just looks like obvious stat padding.  

[GrumpyWorm]

Threads merged

[Sander93]

In the name of balancing the argument, people should be able to play whatever ships they want, when they want. It isn't the players fault no one else is playing a Tier 10 at that time.

 

Should be, and will be. But not yet. According to statistics there are barely 1400 tier 10s right now. Everyone who has half a brain knows this, and knows the matchmaking will not be able to handle tier 10 divisions unless it's during peak hours. 

 

This is just pure stat padding. 

[superdashi]

In my opinion this is the non plus ultra MM fail. I have a lot of understandings for a lot of MM issues, but this battle was the biggest fail ever i think and i doubt someone can top that one.

Where is the deal to setup a team with about 0.00001% win chance? I'am aware that at late hours it is difficult to find other tier 9 and 10 ships but either make them wait a bit longer or give the other team at least some ships that makes them have at least some chance to actually win it. 

And no, i normally do not make any whine threads about everything, but a battle that is lost bevor it begun does not mean any fun at all!

Anybody can top that MM fail?

 

 

 

absolutely.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a1a5cficiueppe5/Amagivsshimakaze.jpg?dl=0

[OldGrandad]

The problem is not the MM but some players manipulating the chance of being omnipotent at certain times of day (in this case at night with lower player counts.) As others have already said, play lower tiers and that way those that want to division up with 3 tier 10's will have an awful long time to wait for a battle!

[superdashi]

The problem is not the MM but some players manipulating the chance of being omnipotent at certain times of day (in this case at night with lower player counts.) As others have already said, play lower tiers and that way those that want to division up with 3 tier 10's will have an awful long time to wait for a battle!

 

Sorry pal, but this answer is just as ridiculous. MM is good, players manipulate the chances and your tip to avoid such constalations, is just to play low tiers.

 

HAR HAR HAR!

 

Where is the problem to adjust MM in a way, that it simply doesn't match only 2 players in a random battle? Where is the problem that even if it does, it does only match 2 players of the same tier and shiptype? Hello, anybody home?

[Sander93]

I agree, the matchmaker should simply not make a match unless it can find enough players for a relatively balanced match. Instead of screwing up the matchmaking in their favor, these divisions should simply not be able to find matches if they insist on playing tier 10s at odd hours. Instead of dragging a bunch of lower tier players into hopelessly unbalanced games.