Should i avoid the Myogi with free XP

[dude1416]

 

Hello Commanders

I converted my free XP.

With my free XP I am able to a void getting the Myogi after reading about it.

Is it as bad as others have said ?.

 

Or i  could even get the New York with my free XP in stead of jumping the Myogi.

 

 

Not sure what I should do ,so any advice on this would be a great help

[StuntMan0369]

Hmm, Myogi was not that terrible when I played it. It does lack the fire power of it's American counterpart, but it wasn't a terrible disadvantage. Playing it will give you experience into the IJN BB line, so skipping it would just put you into a higher tier ship with less experience. I would definitely use free XP for it's modules, but then I would try it out and grind to the tier 5 (It's only 20k XP, it's not the longest grind to endure).

 

I'm not a fan of skipping ships, as reputations can be very misleading (The Colorado might have improved after it's recent buff, and the Cleveland is no-where near as OP as it used to be). Just try it out, and see how you feel after a few games.

[Doolio]

Personally, I would never skip such a low tier, as you could effortlessly grind through it even if it was ten times worse than it is

I would keep the free xp for key modules on higher tier ships.

 

But, that's just my philosophy

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

It's better to learn how to play bb on low tier rather than free xp to tier higher and playing stock ship with not much experience at it. Besides Myogi is not that bad.

[Takeda92]

I'd say, at least get it fully upgraded, especially the last hull. If you haven't played battleships before, then played upgraded Myougi will help you get used to stock Kongou better. It is better to save your free xp for the stock Kongou and more importantly stock Fusou.

 

Stock Fusou is very bad, way worse than a stock Myougi.

[typhaon]

Once you have the range upgrades (hull+range finder) you can take advantage of your superior range on that tier.

Furthermore you have few guns, but the best caliber of that tier, so you can really throw a punch with good hits, especially against cruisers and BBs.

[WolfGewehr]

To say it shortly: no. Skipping tier IV just isn't worth it, so save that exp for later. Also Myogi prepares you for Kongo which is a lot better. Briefly watching your stats, I suggest that you really should train with Myogi instead jumping up in tiers. If you jump straight into Kongo it can backfire easily as you may not be enough experienced to actually play with a tier V BB yet. The danger is that you can get wrong opinion on Kongo if you don't know what to do and at same time you can be a burden for your team.

 

Take this just as an advice, not as a insult. It's a lot better idea to learn and make mistakes at tier IV. As I like to help newcomers (even though you don't see me writing a lot), I also suggest you to play more randoms with battleships. Co-op doesn't train you against humans, so it is essential to go and have randoms with Kawa before Myogi. You have had 40 games with Kawa in co-op, so you know how the ship handles. Now you need to take the second step and go to train your skills against other players. As to be good you need mainly two things: to know how 1) your ship handles and 2) other players react/play against you. First one you have gained from co-op, whilst the second can be achived only in randoms.

 

But I will say: if you go with Myogi (not even to speak about Kongo) right into randoms after having only like dozen BB games against other players, it will be very hard for you. I'd say randoms at low tier are a must have in order to learn, so just go boldly into randoms and learn the tricks how to be effective in a BB!

[Doolio]

I'd say, at least get it fully upgraded, especially the last hull. If you haven't played battleships before, then played upgraded Myougi will help you get used to stock Kongou better. It is better to save your free xp for the stock Kongou and more importantly stock Fusou.

 

Stock Fusou is very bad, way worse than a stock Myougi.

 

In which case, the saved free xp would help, as he can research the hood and get a very capable semi-stock bb, which he would be able to elite from that point without pain (as, imho, the hull is the only "hard obstacle" with fusou, other modules are desirable, but not mandatory, not even the engine).

 

Yes, I pretty much repeated what you said.

[RamirezKurita]

You shouldn't skip the Myogi, it's very good practice on how to play battlecruisers and so it leads into the Kongo quite nicely. Upgrading the hull and the engine is a good idea though, as the Myogi does suffer quite a lot early on with it's stock hull and engine, but the extra armour, AA and speed of those upgrades helps no end. The range increase is slightly less important, so the Myogi has pretty solid range to begin with and without having quite a lot of practice you will struggle to hit things at long range to take advantage of it. Save your free XP for upgrading new ships rather than unlocking new ones, as going into a new tier with an unupgraded ship is pretty harsh and free XP can get you those important hull upgrades.

[OldGrandad]

The Myogi was in fact a release from the Kawachi and was ok to play, I would still go through the process of getting her (not too much silver anyway) and if struggling a bit with her you can always try PvE and whilst the rewards are less you maybe able to hone your skills there without impacting anyone else.

[Rem3mberMe]

Myogi is much worse than Wyoming, but it is playable. You have to try it and do not learn how to drive a BB on the Kongo. If you do sou, you will probably hate Kongo as well. Do not get charmed with its long range. The guns are barely effective over 12km range. Learn how ot use AP ammo, because 6 guns HE spam is not realy effective with 30s reload. In some cases HE is right choice to shoot, but in a BB you have to shoot AP otherwise you are just big useless cruiser.

[trrprrprr]

 

Hello Commanders

I converted my free XP.

With my free XP I am able to a void getting the Myogi after reading about it.

Is it as bad as others have said ?.

 

Or i  could even get the New York with my free XP in stead of jumping the Myogi.

 

 

 

 

Not sure what I should do ,so any advice on this would be a great help

 

Its ok BB after fully upgraded. Best is free exp all upgrades and then grind to next tier.  When i first played it, it was horrible, but then i decide to jap line further too and rebought it...damn it had some great improvements or maby i just learned a bit better to play... anyways, its not a bad BB, there is really no bad BBs in game, just different playstyles for few fragile or slow ones

[Drycon]

You'll never learn to drive a ship when you skip it.
Learning to fight with a handicap or disadvantage forces you to find the right way to use your ship.

 

 

 

 

[VonKafe]

The problem of Myogi is the ultra horrible gun accuracy, it doesn't matter at which range you are as the thing can miss full broadsides even at 5 km. Yes the Arkansas I have has bad accuracy too, but it also comes with 10-12 guns to compensate for it. The gun caliber on Myogi is nice so the AP shells are a viable choice. And you can get to 15 km from Wyoming, set the engines to 2/3 and shoot him while he can just watch you.

 

At least it's better than the Kawachi garbage that ended up in tier 6 half the time, but this shouldn't be a problem after the MM upgrade.

[dude1416]

It will be easier to reply to all Commanders this way.

 

Thank you for all of your advice to do with this topic.

I have decided to not skip the Myogi and to give it ago and do understand the reasons why not to skip a tier.

 

Again thanks

[dude1416]

To say it shortly: no. Skipping tier IV just isn't worth it, so save that exp for later. Also Myogi prepares you for Kongo which is a lot better. Briefly watching your stats, I suggest that you really should train with Myogi instead jumping up in tiers. If you jump straight into Kongo it can backfire easily as you may not be enough experienced to actually play with a tier V BB yet. The danger is that you can get wrong opinion on Kongo if you don't know what to do and at same time you can be a burden for your team.

 

Take this just as an advice, not as a insult. It's a lot better idea to learn and make mistakes at tier IV. As I like to help newcomers (even though you don't see me writing a lot), I also suggest you to play more randoms with battleships. Co-op doesn't train you against humans, so it is essential to go and have randoms with Kawa before Myogi. You have had 40 games with Kawa in co-op, so you know how the ship handles. Now you need to take the second step and go to train your skills against other players. As to be good you need mainly two things: to know how 1) your ship handles and 2) other players react/play against you. First one you have gained from co-op, whilst the second can be achived only in randoms.

 

But I will say: if you go with Myogi (not even to speak about Kongo) right into randoms after having only like dozen BB games against other players, it will be very hard for you. I'd say randoms at low tier are a must have in order to learn, so just go boldly into randoms and learn the tricks how to be effective in a BB!

 

I have not taken your reply as a attack or insult.

I had already sold my Kawa and moved my Captain from it to the Myogi.

I am now playing in random battles a bit more than I was to home in on what type of play style works for me and benefits the team.

With the Myogi i am staying at the rear of the team to help because of the range I have ,but found that a lot of the time that the other team commanders are doing the same as I am so far.

They go from one side of map to other side which in the end leaves me exposed to enemy ships and torp planes because of the Myogi size ,turning and long reload time.

I have upgraded the Myogi to hull C so have all AA guns.

 

 

Thanks

 

[Gommster]

Myogi is great when fully upgraded, very long range main guns (much longer than US tier 4), great AA cover + 29 knots means she is also not so much of an easy target for torps, even though she is very long.

 

Ok she doesn't have the firepower of a wyoming but she's absolutely a cruiser killer

 

[trrprrprr]

 

Hello Commanders

I converted my free XP.

With my free XP I am able to a void getting the Myogi after reading about it.

Is it as bad as others have said ?.

 

Or i  could even get the New York with my free XP in stead of jumping the Myogi.

 

 

 

 

Not sure what I should do ,so any advice on this would be a great help

 

No you should not! Or you will be another one starting new topic about how Bad is Kongo Fuso and Nagato.  Every new tier ship is a learning curve to make you better, if you switch any underpowered or somehow crippled ship, you loose ability to adapt to ship changes.  Thats my opinion about free xping any ships....but all you prolly should, is free xp first hull as most stock ones are pretty crapy and confusing!

[Aguirre23]

Myogi is fine. While it certainly does lack dpm and raw firepower, it very well teaches you long range shooting and in bbs essential aiming discipline. My hit ratio is even a little better in my Myogi than it was in the Wyoming while avg dmg was only ~5k lower - while usually shooting from several kms further away. In direct comparison to the kawachi the myogi can usually hit something thus succesful sniping - while still being the usual bb rng fest - feels actually rewarding.

[dude1416]

Since I decided to go with the Myogi ,can anyone  who has it or used it tell me which training skills are best for the captain of the Myogi please ?.

So far I have gone with ,1/ Expert loader 2/ Basic Survivability 3/ Fire Prevention .

I am hoping these are good choices so far.

 

Thanks

[Exocet6951]

I found the Myogi to be terrible.

Its low armor and good range only teaches people to staying at max range and snipe. Which is extremely counterproductive with the potato accuracy this thing has.

 

It's a fine ship if you enjoy blue line humping, and 30 seconds between disappointment.

[Hairlock]

The Myogi is great. It introduces you to how to play a japanese BB. Its all about angeling your ship and guns. If you go full broadside and fight other ships you wil die quickly becouse your armor is not thick. Play it more like a battlecruiser and it wil shine. Dont forget to upgrade, The stock Myogi is bad. 

[Hairlock]

Since I decided to go with the Myogi ,can anyone  who has it or used it tell me which training skills are best for the captain of the Myogi please ?.

So far I have gone with ,1/ Expert loader 2/ Basic Survivability 3/ Fire Prevention .

I am hoping these are good choices so far.

 

 

Thanks

 

1. Basic Survivebility

2 Fire Prevention

3 High Alert

 

Those 3 are a must. Later on when you play japanese BBs I woud pick Expert Marksman for turret spead and Superintendent. I never use HE shells on a BB so Expert Loader is not imprtant for me. Even against DDs that are closing in on you, if you are experianced with aiming AP works fine.

[WolfGewehr]

These are my current skills on Yamato, but overall I would personally use the same setup on every IJN BB as grinding to the top:

 

 

 

Disclaimer: Those choices may not be the very best and this is just my personal setup which may change in future.

 

IMO Superintendent is more important than High Alert, as that extra health potion is better than the 10%-off from cooldown (ofc I'm not saying it's useless). Both are good skills, but I'd first pick up SI. I took Sixth Sense and High Alert with points that I would have otherwise saved for 5th row skill. Last row seems to be a bit lackluster for BBs, atleast when compared to the exp it needs. Jack of All Trades could be ok, but personally I'll just skip the last row unless WG changes it. When I get 1 point more I could probably take Fire Prevention.

 

 

 

[Hairlock]

About Superintendent or High Alert. On lower levels its very rare that you wil get the chance to use the extra consumable you get with Superintendent. High alert is a much more important skill and it can easly save your life. Later on when you can afford both skills of course pick them both.