Jump to content
Forum Shutdown 28/7/2023 Read more... ×
tilcn

Myogi.

49 comments in this topic

Recommended Posts

Players
3 posts
464 battles

I finally got enough xp + free xp to get kongo and because I don't want people to suffer like I did, grinding 500xp per match for 2 weeks, I'd like to post this. Myogi is the biggest pile of trash in this game, I've gotten thru the early US BBs, NY, etc and I've never complained, in fact, my best matches are with Wyoming. But Myogi, holy crap. Yes, you get that 23km range, which you can not utilize because of the horrendous accuracy. Hurr durr, yes, you can scare people off, but that's about it, because if you hit one of your shots out of 50 salvos, even that is a miracle. And I know how to lead shots and I've got used to it so much I can lead it up to 20km with 1 shot, but that doesn't matter with myogi because your shots go +- 5km. Yes it has nice speed, great, you can at least ram people since you won't do anything else anyway. Armour is meh, nothing special, but nothing outstanding either. And as for the reload time, combined with the horrendous accuracy and quantity of shots.. if this ship is historically somewhat accurate and it was used, no wonder japanese lost the battles.

 

IMO: The worst ship I have ever played, made me uninstall the game on several occasions, you're better off playing DD as BB than myogi.

Edited by tilcn
  • Cool 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[2DSF]
Beta Tester
1,541 posts
7,511 battles

I found the myogi not as bad.

Sure the lack of gund is not so funny but the speed is fine.

I sunk some DD which thought to hunt me with my rear guns, and the had never a real chance to torp me as the can't get me because of the speed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
3 posts
464 battles

Yeah right, if you know what to do. Tell that to someone else who hasn't played her just an hour ago and experienced the [edited]

  • Cool 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
930 posts
9,329 battles

The problem is that myogi is not a BB but a BC with a few oversized guns leading to low dpm....BCs should have been cruiser killers and scouts but most cruisers Myogi meets eat it alive because of its own considerable size and tiny citadels in said cruisers which means myogi can't really use its AP...

Luckily it's just T4 meaning you can grind through it quickly compared to T6 and 7 US DDs which are imho even more UP

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SICK]
Weekend Tester
5,151 posts
11,809 battles

It's a death trap.

Small amount of guns placed in odd places suggests that it should be playe from away. Which isn't possible because you couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.

 

So you have a Kawachi, but with less guns: an HE spammer (and I use the term very loosely) made to eat your free xp.

It's an awful ship. At the the USN tier 4 has the decency to make up for all its downfalls with a large amount of guns.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
360 posts

I never understood the pain of grinding through the <5 tier... I mean, the combination of me being a new player and the speed at which I got through the myogi (35 battles and that's a large number I would assume, as my myogi results are probably the worst on the planet - I mean, it took me LESS battles to go from vanila kongo to fuso and I never spend free xp) made sure that I don't exactly got to even form an opinion about the ship:D

 

I also never understood people complaining about m3 lee in wot, for example. I do understand a painful t9 or even t6 if it's completely below any sensible of viability, but, at least for me personally, grinding through myogi is in the same boat as, I don't know, grinding through hashidate:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
69 posts
4,195 battles

I do not remember the Myogi as a particulary bad ship. Only downside is the amount of cannons: 6. Im at tier 9 USA and tier 8 Japan so if you already find grinding a tier 4/5 ship too hard then yes maybe it is better to uninstall the game. Do not let frustration get the better of you. Life is too short for that.

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SOCKS]
Players
790 posts
5,620 battles

The only ship I spent XP in finishing the grind (and this comes from someone who grinded the so much hated Colorado from vanilla stock to full elite and then all the way up to the North Carolina without spending a single point of free XP).

 

It's indeed a pile of trash. It has it's moments and perks, because that speed is really good, but it just can't hit anything with 6 guns firing all the ways but the one you're firing towards, unless the RNG gods bless you. And if you can't hit (and with this ship honestly, hitting is more a matter of luck rather than skill) then you can't get XP, and if you can't get XP you can't get the hell out of that blasted ship.

 

I couldn't stand it, so I just went directly to the kongo. Best use of my free XP since I started playing. Truly a horrible, horrible, ship.

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
1,064 posts
4,944 battles

I grinded through her for the whole lot but it was long ago and I can't recall all my feelings about her. I remeber it was the first time I had a chance to shoot with true superdreadnought guns and feeling quite excited about it, then I remember the dread of being confronted by a Wyoming with her rain of shells (she had not been downgraded yet). And oh God, how good it felt to have that extra turret when I got the Kongo.

I guess each part of each tier needs to have its rust bucket. When I purchased the sluggish South Carolina I almost immediately free experienced her.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SCRUB]
Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters
2,844 posts
11,496 battles

I neither loved nor hated Myogi. In CBT it was my first time to sail with her and as I was inexperienced I didn't do well. During OBT grind I liked the ship more thanks to the overall BB experience I had collected. But still I remember how I didn't like the gun dispersion or the fact it has only six of them. The gun placement is good for retreating, but bad when attacking as you have to show your side to bring more than just two guns to bear. And you don't want to do that against BB player who knows how to use AP (though at lower tiers it's a miracle :P).

 

Anyways Myogi is a decent ship and as it is tier IV, I would never skip it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
274 posts
1,835 battles

You trolling ?

 

Nope Kongo was added to my worst ships in the game list, Kongo has decent speed but thats it it's guns are frankly awful I thought the Myogi guns where random but the Kongo takes that to another level it can't hit crap.

 

It's completely outclassed by other BB in the NY I hunt cruisers in the Kongo cruisers hunt me the ship is that weak.

Edited by Ragoutrabbit

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
228 posts
7,081 battles

Dont like her either, made like 3 rounds so far as stock and didnt do very well (as expected from a ship without upgrades). She has high dispersion even at closer range and a wierd turret placement ...but then again - you only have to endure her a couple of rounds and the ships afterwards should be descent enough. Stilll only worth the grind for Yamato as the pinnacle of brawling and inferior to the US BBs up to T10 in my optinion (dont get me wrong IJN are very descent ships but up to T7 I like the US superdreadnaugths more, T8 + T9 US outmatches IJN severely [though I still think Izumo gets underetimated like the Colorado ...and I was so hyped about NC that I cant believe Amagi can even compete with her], at T10 Yamato is finally better then Montana ... ) maybe its only my perspective because I mostly played US BBs but I rarley get the feeling a Myogi, Kongo or Fuso could outmatch their US counterparts.

 

@anyone written something here:

You guys are aware that anything you say can be "fact-checked" through "account-sniping", are you? Your stats are visible to anyone that looks up your player name ...so if someone says that myogi is fine if you know what you are doing and he has an average XP of 700 and 30k DMG with her or if someone talks about how he feels in a ship he doesnt even own the discussion gets strange fast... dont do that (yea ofc... you have several accounts, right ...in that case I apologise:p)

Edited by Whatever08152

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SAP]
Players
216 posts
2,054 battles

i liked her very much. She was a true battlecruiser, fast and agile, able to close the distance to the enemy fast, the guns had nice turning rate and max angle of turning, so you could stay nicely angeled while you shot. Avarege 33k dmg a game, which is not as bad as it could seem (took me awhile to realize i need to close to the enemies and take advantage of my speed). Kongo is better at all aspects, thats true. but i enjoyed Myogi. taking out wyomings (as they cannot angle porperly on this tier and showed their broadsides), making it imposible for destros to hit me once i noticed them. and it is only T4 you can advance fast :D 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
3 posts
354 battles

i liked her very much. She was a true battlecruiser, fast and agile, able to close the distance to the enemy fast, the guns had nice turning rate and max angle of turning, so you could stay nicely angeled while you shot. Avarege 33k dmg a game, which is not as bad as it could seem (took me awhile to realize i need to close to the enemies and take advantage of my speed). Kongo is better at all aspects, thats true. but i enjoyed Myogi. taking out wyomings (as they cannot angle porperly on this tier and showed their broadsides), making it imposible for destros to hit me once i noticed them. and it is only T4 you can advance fast :D 

 

Average 33k? And for me a player that does about 50-70K in Kuma and Isokaze per battle, the Myogi is just horrible. I mean, waiting to reload 30 sec then hit 3 out of 6 and deal 3 k dmg. yes, that is right. I never hit above or below 1000 dmg per hit. Only the ocasional citadel per 5 games. But usually, every shell makes 1000 damage exactly. While Wyoming with his full broad of 12 cannons is sure to hit my citadel at least once in his salvo. This 'battlecruiser' is meant to run away from the battle using It's range. Man, I spit on a battleship with 45k+ HP that must run.
Edited by Holy_Potato

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SAP]
Players
216 posts
2,054 battles

Dude you obviously dont understand. the ship has it strengths and its weak points. you play for your strengths and try to not to fail for your weakneses. And all battleships must run from time to time :) in my NC i think that 1/3 of time i might be going on full backwards, utilizing my best armoured side while maintaining 6 guns fire and some distance. BB isnt unhurtable tank that can sail in anywhere and laugh. Myogi isnt great, but its likable. that 30.4 kn top speed is so fun. There were far mode dislikable ships (like colorado prior to all the boosts). 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
67 posts
3,401 battles

I must say last patch (change to AP) made Myogi much and i mean MUCH worse then it used to be. Your AP is most of the time useless agains low tier jap cruisers (you overpen nearly all time) while you are totaly lost vs high tier BBs (you cant do anything to side of standing NM). I see soo often now Cruisers play DDs on low tier trying rush angled towards you to unload all torps as you cant stop them with your HE/AP in time. Didnt have this problem pre-patch as you could preety much always citadel all cruisers on this tier and could AP fighting with any BB while now 0 dmg hits on higher tiers US happens kinda often even when he showing his side all the time.

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
401 posts
7,897 battles

After i re-bought myogi to unlock carriers, ohh boy the results with 3x double turrets. I just used lessons learned from kongo in myogi and the results, ohh-boy the citadels and massive damage hits. Its all about patience and learning the guns.

 

Unlocked carrier in 1/2 games it required to unlock kongo, its all thanks to lessons learned and not get frustrated. Have fun and focus on doing most dmg you can in a battle.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
228 posts
7,081 battles

After i re-bought myogi to unlock carriers, ohh boy the results with 3x double turrets. I just used lessons learned from kongo in myogi and the results, ohh-boy the citadels and massive damage hits. Its all about patience and learning the guns.

 

Unlocked carrier in 1/2 games it required to unlock kongo, its all thanks to lessons learned and not get frustrated. Have fun and focus on doing most dmg you can in a battle.

 

If an average of 770 XP and 36k Damage is ok for you then its absolutely fine.  Ofc its personal preference but I wouldnt be very satisfied with this results. (Had similar results in the Wyoming/New York and it felt awefull ...not because they are bad but because I didnt know anything about BBs and how to play in general)

Edited by Whatever08152
  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Beta Tester
182 posts
9,185 battles

 First BB i really like. No problem facing Wyomings, just stay out of range and shot. Doesnt matter if you only hit 1 of 10 shots, he cant shot you back. Its so fun when you hit your target at 20KM.:teethhappy: The long range shots makes a good pratic to the Kongo.

And with the speed you can run away fron DD until you load the Hp rounds.

But maybe im a litlle partial, everything looks great after that useless Kawachi.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SOCKS]
Players
790 posts
5,620 battles

I actually repurchased this ship to give it a fair try. It's the only one I used free xp in to finish the grind. I did grind from 1st hull to last hull with all upgrades but coudlnt' stand it and in the end fastened my move to kongo with free XP. So I really loathed it when I tried it the first time.

 

Now trying it again after going up the BB lines up to tier 8, I find it's actually if not good, at least surprisingly decent. Spread is not as bad as I remembered it, the speed gives it great flexibility, those guns are the best of it's tier (wyoming gets more but they're 12'' only and those have serious trouble penetrating other BBs unless at knife fight range), turret turn times are pretty decent, armor is OK (it's weak, but is comparable to Kongo's, and anyway armor of almost every japanese battleship until tier X is pretty weak compared with the american counterparts) and all in all I'm surprised at how I could hate this ship so much.

 

Ofc it still has only six guns, it's got pretty serious drawbacks but played to it's strenghts is not even half as bad as I remember. So much that I'm keeping it to play it now and then :).

Edited by RAMJB

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

×