North Carolina will ruin you.

[TomTheBonehead]

Is anybardy ispirancing high servis cost on the North Carlina?? Well this ship is sucking my wallet dry.. Have a look at the screenshot i made.. If devs dont fix this then i will sell it and go for lower tir.. And it pisses me of that it is so expensive to repare on.. i was hardly hit.. But and in the end of the battel i had arund -20k in my wallet.. So if i battel whit the North carolina much more it will ruin me.. And that takes a lote of the fun out of the game.. If i have to think abut can i aford to sail my North Carolina or not.

[typhaon]

If devs dont fix this then i will sell it and go for lower tir.

 

That's the intention of WG... higher tiers are too expensive to run without farming gold on lower tiers.

[Philipp_ab_exterminatore]

you have made this topic before and where told then up your damage and you will make profit easily

[havaduck]

Wow, at first glance I thought maybe a CV nuked you out with a magazine shot, or another unfortunate event to take you out of the game early. 

 

.... but 124 xp? And you surely survived as you admited or else it wouldnt be just 66k repair.

 

So again 124 xp for a game, even a defeat ... what is that? 3 planes? 6 main battery hits?

 

And its not like the NC is a slow ship in which if you pick the wrong side, you end up with nothing to shoot at.

 

That sort of game in a NC would be an embaresment even on a loss in co-op, let alone random  ....

 

 

And sorry but I have to much players in my games who hang back cower as far as possibly from the enemy, not playing for a win but to farm some random (not-)damage (because they dont hit) at the expense of their team mates .... "fighting" only after beeing cornered like a rat ...

 

So yeah not enough service costs in that case.

 

 

 

 

 

WG should even _raise_ the costs to just enter a game and _lower repairs accordingly_, alone to get the stalement out of hightier games ... would work only on those not staying on the edge or even out of gun range anyways, but still an improvement.

[Ph3lan]

Hey TomTheBonehead!

 

 

The screenshot you provided doesn't tell much about what happened in the battle, however the fact that you survived and received only 125 XP (even if it was a defeat) tells me that you didn't contribute much to the battle (you did very little damage, didn't shoot down planes etc. ) Credits and XP are rewards for battle performance, which means that if you don't contribute you get very little of both and while you can kinda get away with that in lower tiers without losing money, at tier 8 you need to "work for your money".

 

- Ph3lan 

 

[Jaeger_Bomb_Meister]

Is anybardy ispirancing high servis cost on the North Carlina?? Well this ship is sucking my wallet dry.. Have a look at the screenshot i made.. If devs dont fix this then i will sell it and go for lower tir.. And it pisses me of that it is so expensive to repare on.. i was hardly hit.. But and in the end of the battel i had arund -20k in my wallet.. So if i battel whit the North carolina much more it will ruin me.. And that takes a lote of the fun out of the game.. If i have to think abut can i aford to sail my North Carolina or not.

 

I got as far as Wyoming.....American BB line in moth balls....Cruiser Line Moth Balled...Japs are better i personally think so anyway......those 2 branches will be last.....German Cruisers Next for me.....

[Evergreen]

Hey TomTheBonehead!

 

The screenshot you provided doesn't tell much about what happened in the battle, however the fact that you survived and received only 125 XP (even if it was a defeat) tells me that you didn't contribute much to the battle (you did very little damage, didn't shoot down planes etc. ) Credits and XP are rewards for battle performance, which means that if you don't contribute you get very little of both and while you can kinda get away with that in lower tiers without losing money, at tier 8 you need to "work for your money".

 

- Ph3lan 

 

I fully agree on that.

You won't get "loads of cash" for just sailing around and survive the Battle.

Capping, doing damage on enemy ships and shooting down planes is what makes the credits you get at the end of a battle.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

Nc is good ship but also , for 100k dmg u get around 100k creds , and even u die u get - bill

[xCaptainObviousx]

I suspect this guy is a troll, he's even got "bonehead" in the username and he's certainly living up to it.

[Gatt]

Nice thing of WoWS is that if you fight, and fight hard, you get a lot of XP and credits even when you lose.

 

[Zogash85]

To get credits, you need to do damage, get kills, and down planes. You do an average of 32k damage in your North Carolina - that's just plain bad, I did more than that in my South Carolina at Tier 3 (and I'm an average player)!  Work on your aiming, improve your damage done, get more kills, and you'll see that making money in this game isn't that hard to do.

[combattank]

125XP ???

That looks like he quit the battle alive ...

[aboomination]

Just got the NC and she is still stock but I have to say that the shell travel time is bad and dispersion meh, also rudder shift sucks so hard atm.

Overrated but not too bad...still I expected more, Tirpitz is better in my book, at least the Tirpitz can effectively use her broadside, unlike the NC.

Best result so far was 85kish while with the Colorado I managed a 155k...hopefully I will adapt.

Do I get better (faster) ammunition with the 2nd hull? edit: Nope : P

 

update: Installed a new crosshair and am able to lead targets much better now. Good ship.

 

[RAMJB]

NC's shells have a slower speed than Colorados, but a much longer range. Aiming with them is very awkward at first as a result, you'll be missing a lot of shots because you're not used to the larger necessary lead due to the longer ranges and (mostly) slower shell travel time. But once you do this thing delivers unbelievable ammounts of pain.

 

Stock this ship is obviously not as good as a tirpitz, yet is perfectly able to fight one and beat it if well driven. And elited a Tirpitz facing a well driven NC is in serious trouble. Shells don't get better but arcs of fire do (and bigtime). Also the rudder shift time goes down by a lot, which is probably the most annoying thing in stock NC (it was for me ,at least). But other than that the stock NC is one of the best stock experiences in both BB trees, ship is very powerful without a single unlock when most other BBs without them are just utter garbage.

And of course it has godly AAA when properly fitted with the correct upgrade setup. Anything smaller than a tier 8 carrier will see his squadrons murdered. Tier 8 ones will see them seriously hurting. Tier 9 and avobe...well you're going to need cruisers escorting you to deal with them, but still the AAA is just awesome.

[trrprrprr]

So what if its 140k repair? ive had one game -17k where i died like and idiot in first minutes and didnt get to do a thing...Ty enemy swarp of torp bombers. But every other game i make profit of  70k-200k per game, even in a good lose its ~150-200k after repairs(if i survive)   Stop whining about low income, if you dont contribute in the game!

 

PS: as  all idiots who made threads like this, you are BAD, very bad players whos unable to learn! Why there can be an BB player with 80k damage average with lots of games played? i bet players like this make 250k credits profit every game..... but players like OP are bad and wont ever learn to play properly, so WG must fix income for them so they can have few hundred thousand credits for a 120exp game

[Zogash85]

So what if its 140k repair? ive had one game -17k where i died like and idiot in first minutes and didnt get to do a thing...Ty enemy swarp of torp bombers. But every other game i make profit of  70k-200k per game, even in a good lose its ~150-200k after repairs(if i survive)   Stop whining about low income, if you dont contribute in the game!

 

PS: as  all idiots who made threads like this, you are BAD, very bad players whos unable to learn! Why there can be an BB player with 80k damage average with lots of games played? i bet players like this make 250k credits profit every game..... but players like OP are bad and wont ever learn to play properly, so WG must fix income for them so they can have few hundred thousand credits for a 120exp game

 

Agree and disagree, really. Sure, if you're bad, you'll always struggle to make a profit, especially at tier 8+, and rightly so. However, whether or not you run a premium account does also play a major role at this point. Even in a good defeat it's ~150-200k after repairs, you say? Without premium, it can be hard making as much even on a good victory! To get those numbers without premium, you have to do at least 90k damage, get 1+ kill(s), and, most importantly, survive with 50+% HP. Repair costs, especially for deaths and near-deaths are a lot steeper than at the lower tiers, and it does show when you're on a standard account. That doesn't justify threads like this one, of course, but it's something to take into consideration when talking about the high tier economy.

[__Katniss__]

WG gives us credits for doing nothing in the game and make repairs for free. Plase WG, plase. Allow to grind tier 10 for every potato. Plase.

[Zogash85]

WG gives us credits for doing nothing in the game and make repairs for free. Plase WG, plase. Allow to grind tier 10 for every potato. Plase.

 

This is the kind of game I'm talking about:

 

 

146k damage done, 3 kills, High Caliber - not even 60k credits profit. My Gun Fire Control upgrade is 1.9 million credits. That is just wrong.

[Hauptbahnhof]

 

This is the kind of game I'm talking about:

 

146k damage done, 3 kills, High Caliber - not even 60k credits profit. My Gun Fire Control upgrade is 1.9 million credits. That is just wrong.

 

Well you didn't survive... You can make 200k credits profit per game if you survive the game ( or even more with premium ).

[ilhilh]

 

This is the kind of game I'm talking about:

 

 

146k damage done, 3 kills, High Caliber - not even 60k credits profit. My Gun Fire Control upgrade is 1.9 million credits. That is just wrong.

 

Do you run premium?  I can't quite work it out from the post above this quoted one.  The game getting difficult to run without premium at around tier 8 is ok with me - it is how WoT worked so I am used to it.  At tier 8 the better players can get by without premium but average joe will not.  At tier 9... well apparently it gets a bit ridiculous

[Hauptbahnhof]

 

Do you run premium?  I can't quite work it out from the post above this quoted one.  The game getting difficult to run without premium at around tier 8 is ok with me - it is how WoT worked so I am used to it.  At tier 8 the better players can get by without premium but average joe will not.  At tier 9... well apparently it gets a bit ridiculous

 

Indeed.

 

I see no problem with "forcing" most players to pay a little to have smooth progression to tier 9-10. When you are here you already have many hundreds of games and hours of enjoyment for free already, and it's totally reasonable to ask you to either pay a little or be exceptionally skilled if you want to reach end game tiers and content.

[Zogash85]

 

Well you didn't survive... You can make 200k credits profit per game if you survive the game ( or even more with premium ).

 

That is a crap argument, tbh. Survival should not have that big an influence on income. In this particular instance, my death was what won us the game, because I soaked up fire from 3 enemy ships and took an Amagi down with me, giving my surviving teammates (all one-shots) time to get out of range and run the timer down. Having to play for survival rather than playing for victory isn't what this game should be about, imho.

 

 

Do you run premium?  I can't quite work it out from the post above this quoted one.  The game getting difficult to run without premium at around tier 8 is ok with me - it is how WoT worked so I am used to it.  At tier 8 the better players can get by without premium but average joe will not.  At tier 9... well apparently it gets a bit ridiculous

 

No, I currently don't run pemium. I ran a premium account continuously since closed beta until my credit card expired at the end of September. I intend to get premium again once I get my new card. I would call myself an above average player, and I do get by even without premium, but repair costs are borderline offensive. I don't lose money, I just don't make enough of a profit to affort even minor upgrades. It's not nearly as bad in World of Tanks! There, if I die in Tier 8+ games, I'll still make a decent profit as long as I do good damage (3k+), get kills, and don't shoot gold ammo. In Warships, I can carry as hard as I want - if I die/nearly die, my income is screwed. Blagh.

[Spuggy]

Hmmmm... Naval warships are expensive to buy, sail and maintain. Who'd have thunk it. It's not like most nations in the world that had a strong navy and now don't have a strong naval force simply because it's too expensive to run. Oh wai.....

[DJ_Die]

 

Indeed.

 

I see no problem with "forcing" most players to pay a little to have smooth progression to tier 9-10. When you are here you already have many hundreds of games and hours of enjoyment for free already, and it's totally reasonable to ask you to either pay a little or be exceptionally skilled if you want to reach end game tiers and content.

Or you can just play a T4-6 ship you like to help you maintain positive income and keeping lower tiers populated at the same time.... Say what you want about WG but this little idea of theirs is not bad at all...

 

I have NoCar as well and despite it being almost stock except the engine upgrade it still makes me a little money or a lot in my case because i have premium account you just have to angle a lot to minimize damage taken or better yet sail towards the enemy using only the A and B turrets.... Too bad my first three battles were 5k, 5k and 0k... Montanas and Yamatos kinda hurt

[Getzamatic]

Hmmmm... Naval warships are expensive to buy, sail and maintain. Who'd have thunk it. It's not like most nations in the world that had a strong navy and now don't have a strong naval force simply because it's too expensive to run. Oh wai.....

 

Tue, but we are playing a game, not balancing a defence budget...