Premium shop ships - no benefit (same error like in WoWP)

[ulthien]

It seems to me that the same (business model, product management) error that struck down World of Warplanes is haunting WoWS:

If you spend real life money to buy a premium ship(s) in premium shop, they give no advantage in the game. To explain:

The credits earned are on par or level to the ones your in-game ships bring.

 

So the broad public will have no reason to buy and play the premium ships, which then do not earn money (neither for the player nor for the business model of WT).

 

It is much better strategy to simply avoid premium ships and earn comparable credits with regular ships as they also ADVANCE your exp for the ship, too.

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Not sure what the arguments on WT side are, why should users spend RL money on premium ships at all?

In WoT, the premium tank usually brings DOUBLE credits.

[Admiral_noodle]

So. I'm not a tanker. I bought premium ships because I wanted the ships... Only later did I find out that they are "supposed" to generate more XP and credits.

 

That said they DO earn more silver. I can make 200k profit in Tirpitz and 400k in Murmansk. I can't do that in my non prems (not quite).

 

Also the Murmansk and Tirpitz are joys to play.

[ulthien]

I earn same money with Omaha as i do with Murmansk (statistically).

 

Atop, i advance the ship by 4k as in this match, to climb the tech tree...

 

WHY should a player play a premium APART from fun (e.g. Tirpitz being a preffered target to destroy for all )

[Echelon2k]

Credits and Xp are earned through damage. I believe the repaircost of premiumships is much lower than that of their regual tier counterparts. This in turn let's them earn more especially in higher tiers.

[ulthien]

To pay for the crumbles hahahaha

[ulthien]

Also, you guys paid 40€ for Tirpitz, that will be earning +/- 10% as Bismarck will when it comes out.

[inAbag]

Credits and Xp are earned through damage. I believe the repaircost of premiumships is much lower than that of their regual tier counterparts. This in turn let's them earn more especially in higher tiers.

 

Yeah this was the plan but somewhere along the line they scrapped that. The Murmansk and Atago for example do not have better repair costs than their regular counterparts.

 

Also, you guys paid 40€ for Tirpitz, that will be earning +/- 10% as Bismarck will when it comes out.

 

Yeah this also bugged me when the ship as introduced and I was very skeptical. What I am also skeptical about is how the performance of the Tirpitz will be compared to the Bismarck. Either the Bismarck will be tier 7 or it will have vastly superior stats to the Tirpitz. I mean, logic and past experiences would say that a premium ship would never be better than it's regular counterpart right?

[Userext]

I earn same money with Omaha as i do with Murmansk (statistically).

 

Atop, i advance the ship by 4k as in this match, to climb the tech tree...

 

WHY should a player play a premium APART from fun (e.g. Tirpitz being a preffered target to destroy for all )

 

if thats your highest earned in omaha well thats the reason you should buy murmansk. But please dont limit those photos to only first view. That view includes premium+flags+first win of the day+missions

 

IN the picture below i didnt have premium. I had %20 money flag and i guess 2x for the first win and %50 experience flag. Missions added 10k credit and a bit of free exp i guess. 

[aboomination]

Also, you guys paid 40€ for Tirpitz, that will be earning +/- 10% as Bismarck will when it comes out.

 

I highly doubt that.

[StuntMan0369]

I mean, logic and past experiences would say that a premium ship would never be better than it's regular counterpart right?

 

Glances at Omaha, looks to Murmansk. Glances to Omaha, looks back to Murmansk.

 

Yeah...

 

[ulthien]

 

if thats your highest earned in omaha well thats the reason you should buy murmansk. But please dont limit those photos to only first view. That view includes premium+flags+first win of the day+missions

 

IN the picture below i didnt have premium. I had %20 money flag and i guess 2x for the first win and %50 experience flag. Missions added 10k credit and a bit of free exp i guess. 

 

Your battle performance on murmansk is 2x mine and you got only +50% credits up.

 

With that performance, Omaha would have earned same money AND direct exp atop.

 

[Userext]

 

Your battle performance on murmansk is 2x mine and you got only +50% credits up.

 

With that performance, Omaha would have earned same money AND direct exp atop.

 

 

Why dont you post the rest of results in that battle? As i said many things can change the front view. With premium account my money would be 440k which is double what you have

[Admiral_noodle]

But you're more likely to do damage in Murmansk

 

[zFireWyvern]

If I remember correctly, Premium ships are also cheaper to maintain so your net earnings are still higher than that of a regular tree ship

[Dangerhamster]

If premium ships were essential to making good credits can you imagine the uproar? As it is they usually give a bonus to earnings and most of them are fun to play (remember fun?).

There's also the small matter of being able to bounce captains around them to bring up their skills quicker with more first win bonuses. Although training up a DD skilled skipper in the Warspite presents its own problems......

[Userext]

If premium ships were essential to making good credits can you imagine the uproar? As it is they usually give a bonus to earnings and most of them are fun to play (remember fun?).

There's also the small matter of being able to bounce captains around them to bring up their skills quicker with more first win bonuses. Although training up a DD skilled skipper in the Warspite presents its own problems......

 

buy cruisers. Cruisers work with all skills. I want a low tier premium DD or low tier premium cruiser in IJN tree so i can train my DD captains. I dont want to traing a DD captain in stock kagero that was painful

[ulthien]

 

Glances at Omaha, looks to Murmansk. Glances to Omaha, looks back to Murmansk.

 

Yeah...

 

 

Omaha +2 guns (!!), but less range.

[StuntMan0369]

 

Omaha +2 guns (!!), but less range.

 

Only if you mount the 'B' hull. Which means you sacrifice pretty much all of your AA. Plus the Murmansk gets 8km torpedoes...

[ulthien]

If I remember correctly, Premium ships are also cheaper to maintain so your net earnings are still higher than that of a regular tree ship

 

thats the 10% diff .. worth it?

[ulthien]

If premium ships were essential to making good credits can you imagine the uproar? As it is they usually give a bonus to earnings and most of them are fun to play (remember fun?).

There's also the small matter of being able to bounce captains around them to bring up their skills quicker with more first win bonuses. Although training up a DD skilled skipper in the Warspite presents its own problems......

 

But thats what we have in WoT and it's fun and usable.

 

This WoWS and WoWP model is NOT.

 

That is my main point.

[Userext]

 

But thats what we have in WoT and it's fun and usable.

 

This WoWS and WoWP model is NOT.

 

That is my main point.

 

and your main point is wrong because the info you use is not correct

[ulthien]

 

Only if you mount the 'B' hull. Which means you sacrifice pretty much all of your AA. Plus the Murmansk gets 8km torpedoes...

 

That i gladly do. As i figured it brings in more credits due to more dmg.

 

I think it wouold sacrifice the all-needed torpedo tubes as well. Do the math.

[Aldramelech]

And yet we have a multitude of people here complaining about the economy in the game and saying they never have enough money and yet I have 75,000,000 silver. How did I get 75,000,000? Premium ships, I own all of them.

[Nagine]

You are forgetting one tiny bit. Premium ships allow to avoid lengthy grind. Imagine how long it will take to grind to Bismarck.

Of course, this inevitably leads to Lowe syndrome. However, WG gets the money and players get their piniatas.

[22cm]

And yet we have a multitude of people here complaining about the economy in the game and saying they never have enough money and yet I have 75,000,000 silver. How did I get 75,000,000? Premium ships, I own all of them.

 

Did you also have premium time? That would explain it.

If both premium ships and premium time are required...