Svarun_SeventySeven Players 3 posts 409 battles Report post #1 Posted September 24, 2015 Goddam destroyers disappearing at point blank range just when I'm about to shot them with a full salvo - and no it wasn't smoke.................ships are disappearing more and more and it's completely ruining my experience. Or is that a hack perhaps, I don't know, you tell me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caldark Alpha Tester 333 posts 1,473 battles Report post #2 Posted September 24, 2015 The romulan cloaknig devices are stupid to have to a WW2 game but thats how WG like to handle camo in thier games. The DD detection range is very low so yeah they can just vanish when you are looking right at them.. but its just a visual thing you can still fire and hit them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Makoniel WG Staff 2,824 posts 14,007 battles Report post #3 Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) A DD will disappear if it is at more than 6.1km from you, for the stealthier of them Minekaze. That is when you are the only one able to spot it. If they are at point blank, they cant disappear. Unless point blank is 6km, for you. Edited September 24, 2015 by Okitank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willTell Beta Tester 96 posts 6,950 battles Report post #4 Posted September 24, 2015 Spotting in this game seem to behave strange sometimes. I often see ships on the minimap at the start of the game with nothing around to spot them (usually a Tirpitz) and ships heading towards me in the 10km range vanish and reappear shortly after. But never have I seen ships that are as close as you describe to just vanish for no reason. If this is really an issue, just enable your replays and send them in for examination. This isn't the first time someone would come here to the forums and complain about short range invis boats, sadly none of them had any kind of proof to support their claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Svarun_SeventySeven Players 3 posts 409 battles Report post #5 Posted September 24, 2015 Spotting in this game seem to behave strange sometimes. I often see ships on the minimap at the start of the game with nothing around to spot them (usually a Tirpitz) and ships heading towards me in the 10km range vanish and reappear shortly after. But never have I seen ships that are as close as you describe to just vanish for no reason. If this is really an issue, just enable your replays and send them in for examination. This isn't the first time someone would come here to the forums and complain about short range invis boats, sadly none of them had any kind of proof to support their claim. Proof? I'm a grown [edited]man..and I'm telling you........destroyer was literally 0.5km away from me and it disappeared every time i was about to fire at it, just before I pressed the fire button, I swear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SV3] jarskog Players 66 posts 5,703 battles Report post #6 Posted September 24, 2015 Do not take it personally but if this is a bug the developers need more information to be able to troubleshoot this. Screenshots, time and date of the game are necessary. But best is ofc a replay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #7 Posted September 24, 2015 I've had graphical glitches before where ships would be visible in binocular view, but be invisible (or consist of a few pixels) in normal view. Meant I could shoot them but had to keep going into binocs to see what they were doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nokkeli Beta Tester 135 posts 394 battles Report post #8 Posted September 24, 2015 Proof? I'm a grown [edited]man..and I'm telling you........destroyer was literally 0.5km away from me and it disappeared every time i was about to fire at it, just before I pressed the fire button, I swear. Please understand the skepticism of the people here. I have never had this problem and nobody else seems to have had it either. This would mean that that either you are exaggerating the issue or you have stumbled on some sort of one in a million chance bug that nobody else has. I would recommend enabling replays so that the next time it happens it can be analyzed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #9 Posted September 24, 2015 Goddam destroyers disappearing at point blank range just when I'm about to shot them with a full salvo - and no it wasn't smoke.................ships are disappearing more and more and it's completely ruining my experience. Or is that a hack perhaps, I don't know, you tell me. 2 posts, 20 battles all in battleships and then this tone to start a thread with... Please. go to newcomers section and READ before posting, thank you 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #10 Posted September 24, 2015 Proof? I'm a grown [edited]man..and I'm telling you........destroyer was literally 0.5km away from me and it disappeared every time i was about to fire at it, just before I pressed the fire button, I swear. And now you're lying. Proof, or /thread and /reputation ( if you had any to start with ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #11 Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Proof? I'm a grown [edited]man..and I'm telling you........destroyer was literally 0.5km away from me and it disappeared every time i was about to fire at it, just before I pressed the fire button, I swear. Devs need proof like a replay! i have seen ships disaper in what looks to be a glitch at long ranges but never at under a KM like you claim!! If this is happening its more likely to be a Lag/Frame rate issue related to the power of your PC... Keep an eye on these numbers at the top of your screen Edited September 24, 2015 by T0byJug 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nokkeli Beta Tester 135 posts 394 battles Report post #12 Posted September 24, 2015 I've had graphical glitches before where ships would be visible in binocular view, but be invisible (or consist of a few pixels) in normal view. Meant I could shoot them but had to keep going into binocs to see what they were doing. Sounds like for some reason the engine fails to load in the model and/or the textures of the ship. Could be caused by a memory overflow for example. Might be worth reporting to the devs if this happens often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #13 Posted September 24, 2015 And now you're lying. Proof, or /thread and /reputation ( if you had any to start with ). he might not be lying - like I said above I've had graphical issues with ships before, frequently destroyers where the model isn't produced properly, making the ship "invisible" or consist of a flying wheelhouse. The telltale sign though is that it still has its health bar, and distance, and when you zoom in it suddenly pops into existence. I'll have a look when I get home from work, think I screen grabbed a few instances Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #14 Posted September 24, 2015 he might not be lying - like I said above I've had graphical issues with ships before, frequently destroyers where the model isn't produced properly, making the ship "invisible" or consist of a flying wheelhouse. The telltale sign though is that it still has its health bar, and distance, and when you zoom in it suddenly pops into existence. I'll have a look when I get home from work, think I screen grabbed a few instances These issues need proof, so they can be verified. If there is such proof it should naturally be reported to proper channels so it can get fixed. But from OP's post, and claims 'it could be a hack becuz they disappear when I'm just ready to shoot them, each and every time' it's more assumable he is a 20 games in a BB player which doesn't know about distance scales in the game nor the camo system in the game especially in regards to DD's. Some of them turn into fully fledged members of the BB mafia, others don't, but all of them start with saying DD's 'magically disappear'. The only time I had ships 'disappear' was with severe lag, and they didn't disappear by magic each time I tried to pull the trigger on one either. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but it does make me a bit sceptic considering above paragraph in relation to the OP in this thread and his poster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leif_GG_Persson Beta Tester 130 posts 4,963 battles Report post #15 Posted September 24, 2015 Proof? I'm a grown [edited]man..and I'm telling you........destroyer was literally 0.5km away from me and it disappeared every time i was about to fire at it, just before I pressed the fire button, I swear. Ohhh you're a grown [edited]-man? Well, that changes everything! I'm sure everyone will blindly take your word for it, no matter what you claim. I'm sure the correct answer, just as it always is with these "omg itz bugged"-threads, is: l2p. Or more specifically, learn how the core mechanics, in this case spotting mechanics, work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #16 Posted September 24, 2015 I notice a lot of dd disappear when they are close to me it usually happens just after I get a nice juicy destruction shot and then bam they are gone sorry but what op says sounds so far fetched I had to add some humour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Svarun_SeventySeven Players 3 posts 409 battles Report post #17 Posted September 24, 2015 Ye ok, tear down the OP instead of focusing on the issue. God forbid anyone crticizes your favourite game - must be a hater right? Typical brainless fanboy logic - the no.1 reason games don't get fixed, cause of sheep worshippers that don't ask any tough questions. Been gaming for 24 years on all platforms and I suddenly feel the need to come on the forum and lie about an issue I encountered. Let me repeat: A destroyer that was in front of me, I'd say 0.5-1km away disappeared 2 times in row right when I took aim and was about to fire.........true that they usually disappear when they are further away, but not in this case. And I didn't say it was a hack, I asked if it might be..........but some sheep worshipper here spins my words like he's in a political campaign running for president or something. My rage comes from the fact that I was torpedoed by a semi-invisible/stealth destroyer. You see I actually love this game, but I show my love by reporting an issue that needs to be looked at. What on earth was I thinking by daring to come to this forum and disturb the peace in the fantasy land where this game is perfect in every possible way and has zero issues. Silly me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LMN118 Players 243 posts Report post #18 Posted September 24, 2015 I've had a few issues with ships disappearing, usually with gun sights and also not rendering in when appearing from around islands. Unfortunately these rendering issues have been with us since WoT. Part of it is down to the crappy spotting mechanics and most likely server issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Battledragon Beta Tester 615 posts 1,251 battles Report post #19 Posted September 24, 2015 Ok, not sure what's wrong with your game, but in over 1000 games across CBT OBT and release I have never seen anything vanish from 0.5km. Hell I've rarely even gotten that close to anything, anything under 1km is less than a ship length in this game given how ranges are out of scale with the ship sizes. Even with smoke screen a DD usually becomes visible under 1km away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FILO] Wrede Beta Tester 31 posts 3,795 battles Report post #20 Posted September 24, 2015 Spotting in this game seem to behave strange sometimes. I often see ships on the minimap at the start of the game with nothing around to spot them (usually a Tirpitz) and ships heading towards me in the 10km range vanish and reappear shortly after. But never have I seen ships that are as close as you describe to just vanish for no reason. If this is really an issue, just enable your replays and send them in for examination. This isn't the first time someone would come here to the forums and complain about short range invis boats, sadly none of them had any kind of proof to support their claim. That is the result of thme firimg there guns at tha start of battle, firing adds like 4km to your visibility Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldramelech Beta Tester 1,753 posts Report post #21 Posted September 24, 2015 Computer specs needed as well, it's entirely possible your rig is struggling if you own an older PC. But to add to the above comments I've 1100 games in CBT and 1500 odd in OBT/release and I've never seen what you describe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #22 Posted September 24, 2015 You see I actually love this game, but I show my love by reporting an issue that needs to be looked at. What on earth was I thinking by daring to come to this forum and disturb the peace in the fantasy land where this game is perfect in every possible way and has zero issues. Silly me. Did you read the part where people asked for additional information, to better determine if this is because of connectivity issues or it is really a game bug? If you don't answer that, how can you pretend to be taken seriously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #23 Posted September 24, 2015 Found the screenies I was looking for. these particular ones involve a friendly DD, but had it happen with enemy ones destroyer at 4.7km, can see health, name and distance, but no destroyer showing. same at 4.9km Swap to binoc view and there he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #24 Posted September 24, 2015 gotta admit you got some good screen shots then of the missing destroyer its not 0.5km but even 4.7km it shouldn't go missing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #25 Posted September 24, 2015 Ooo rendering fail. I've seen friendly ships next to me "not spotted" and invisible but moving at the game start but not for long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites