Tired of Deck-Whiners

[Kenliero]

I'm getting really tired of people whining about how carrier (Ranger) must have fighters.

 

No it does not have to have fighters

 

I have managed 63% winrate and 73 053 average damage in random battles and 127k in my one ranked battle(80% winrate in the last 7 days, almost only Ranger matches),  and today 10 wins in a row without the god #¤%/ fighters!!!

 

in fact I managed to get my first carrier loss today at 22:53(played almost all day), just because there was an idiot whining to me about what deck I use and he even shot a volley at me apparently because "I play carrier the wrong way"... (Oh, I was also shot by ally when I played New Mexico... and we won that one too. despite that I had to cancel my main attack, being shot from both sides...)

 

Isn't it funny how my first loss came in the game the "whiner" was in? I told he can blame me, if it makes him feel any better, but.... this keeps happening often... Who brainwashed the masses to use only fighters, always, every time, and make other setups a damn cardinal SIN?

 

It's getting really old.

 

I guess that's my rant of the week.

[silence5]

While you are farming all the damage they get beat up by the enemy torp and dive bombers ... I wonder why they don't like players like you in a team game. 

[Kenliero]

While you are farming all the damage they get beat up by the enemy torp and dive bombers ... I wonder why they don't like players like you in a team game. 

 

One of "them" spotted.

[silence5]

 

One of "them" spotted.

 

Your ego is as bad as your playstile. Do your thing, I'm outa here.

[Arakus]

I'm getting really tired of people whining about how carrier (Ranger) must have fighters.

 

No it does not have to have fighters

 

I have managed 63% winrate and 73 053 average damage in random battles and 127k in my one ranked battle(80% winrate in the last 7 days, almost only Ranger matches),  and today 10 wins in a row without the god #¤%/ fighters!!!

 

in fact I managed to get my first carrier loss today at 22:53(played almost all day), just because there was an idiot whining to me about what deck I use and he even shot a volley at me apparently because "I play carrier the wrong way"... (Oh, I was also shot by ally when I played New Mexico... and we won that one too. despite that I had to cancel my main attack, being shot from both sides...)

 

Isn't it funny how my first loss came in the game the "whiner" was in? I told he can blame me, if it makes him feel any better, but.... this keeps happening often... Who brainwashed the masses to use only fighters, always, every time, and make other setups a damn cardinal SIN?

 

It's getting really old.

 

I guess that's my rant of the week.

 

You are selfish, no team player.

If i where with cruiser in your team you would got no help from me at all.

[Kenliero]

 

You are selfish, no team player.

If i where with cruiser in your team you would got no help from me at all.

 

Another one of "them" spotted

[Kenliero]

Waiting for the next "expert" with no carrier experience?

[black_falcon120]

I am no expert, but 428 games does not make you an expert either, and it certainly doesn't let you dismiss fighters as 'useless', they are very useful, even if just for clearing up the fighters that cruisers can launch.  I also find them useful for playing 'goalkeeper' over your allies fleets, which is why I imagine your allies don't like you. 

 

I do know what you mean, it is pretty much impossible to intercept enemy planes before they launch unless you have fighters all over the map and/or a lot of destroyers scouting behind enemy lines, it makes sense to either go all in on fighters (a bad idea), or none at all, which I think is what you're getting at (correct me if I'm wrong). 

[Pawndemonium]

That's a fun story and all, but why did you create a topic for that crap? .p

Play whatever the [Edited] you want, what's to discuss here? lol

 

[Sake78]

So, are we into shooting people which are sailing in their own earned ship because they don`t match our own ideas about said ships, whether we have them or not and whether we`re crap in them or not? 

 

All the while CA`s might or might not escort him, because reasons, right? There is nothing mandatory about babysitting BBs, but it is about a carrier and his choices in decks? Hypocrite much?

[Kenliero]

That's a fun story and all, but why did you create a topic for that crap? .p

Play whatever the f*ck you want, what's to discuss here? lol

 

 

Yeah... well, you are actually right. I should of never even make it. I got what I ordered...

[Kenliero]

I am no expert, but 428 games does not make you an expert either, and it certainly doesn't let you dismiss fighters as 'useless', they are very useful, even if just for clearing up the fighters that cruisers can launch.  I also find them useful for playing 'goalkeeper' over your allies fleets, which is why I imagine your allies don't like you. 

 

I do know what you mean, it is pretty much impossible to intercept enemy planes before they launch unless you have fighters all over the map and/or a lot of destroyers scouting behind enemy lines, it makes sense to either go all in on fighters (a bad idea), or none at all, which I think is what you're getting at (correct me if I'm wrong). 

 

Well.... we can debate about that. I more or less know how carriers work to tier 8, since I have played USN and IJN lines both to tier 8, and have played against tier 10's as well....(Missing only 20k from Lexington and I have Shokaku). Seen how it works in both sides... So I think I am quite qualified to say what works and what doesn't with carriers.

[praetor_jax]

I'm getting really tired of people whining about how carrier (Ranger) must have fighters.

 

No it does not have to have fighters

 

I have managed 63% winrate and 73 053 average damage in random battles and 127k in my one ranked battle(80% winrate in the last 7 days, almost only Ranger matches),  and today 10 wins in a row without the god #¤%/ fighters!!!

 

in fact I managed to get my first carrier loss today at 22:53(played almost all day), just because there was an idiot whining to me about what deck I use and he even shot a volley at me apparently because "I play carrier the wrong way"... (Oh, I was also shot by ally when I played New Mexico... and we won that one too. despite that I had to cancel my main attack, being shot from both sides...)

 

Isn't it funny how my first loss came in the game the "whiner" was in? I told he can blame me, if it makes him feel any better, but.... this keeps happening often... Who brainwashed the masses to use only fighters, always, every time, and make other setups a damn cardinal SIN?

 

It's getting really old.

 

I guess that's my rant of the week.

 

Not much carrier experience here, but the point really is - you re perfectly legit playing like this as long as you never complain about your team letting ships break through, causing you to die.

If you complain about your team not protecting you your team has every reason to complain you dont protect them. Thats it.

[Sake78]

 

Not much carrier experience here, but the point really is - you re perfectly legit playing like this as long as you never complain about your team letting ships break through, causing you to die.

If you complain about your team not protecting you your team has every reason to complain you dont protect them. Thats it.

 

You make it sound like he has Ebola.

[praetor_jax]

 

You make it sound like he has Ebola.

 

o.0

[Kenliero]

 

Not much carrier experience here, but the point really is - you re perfectly legit playing like this as long as you never complain about your team letting ships break through, causing you to die.

If you complain about your team not protecting you your team has every reason to complain you dont protect them. Thats it.

 

Thank you for your reasonable advice, without unnecessary insults. I usually tell my team to not stay and protect me, but go attack instead. Sometimes if they offer to help, I say "sure, but initial attack only", then I don't want them to stay with me. I try to keep up with the team... and most common reason for me to die, is because I pass them in frontline... and suddenly BB sees me and shoots volley...

 

EDIT: What comes to "I dont protect my team".... I think the best protection is to nuke that enemy carrier ASAP.

[goodman528]

No it does not have to have fighters

 

In before all the fighter CV and sniper BB crowd beat you to death about lack of support for your team. Oh dear, looks like I'm too late.

 

I fully agree with you though, having played the first 20 games in Bogue with 0/1/2 I managed 86k average damage per game, then played the next 20 games with 2/0/1 and got almost zero damage per game. I don't have enough credits to buy Ranger, but Bogue 0/1/2 at tier 5 was probably the most OP thing I have ever played, so it was funny to see how many people complain about it.

[Synth_FG]

As a BB driver I'm more than happy for the CV to load out with no fighters, 

just so long as he cripples/sinks the enemy ships, without loosing his entire air wing in the first encounter

 

[Msiiek]

For me 1/1/1 is better for rankeds as it also can nuke ships and fighters aren't worthless. But 0/1/3 is viable too, extra dive bombers can dish some nice damage (like 3k per bomb) with manual drop against light armored decks (cruisers, destroyers) but there can be hard times against hiryu. 2/0/2 useless.

 

Didn't played cvs in rankeds though becouse I don't have cash to rebuy ranger.

[AgarwaenME]

For the Ranger specificly? Maybe not, as it's available choice in flight controls are abyssmal, and with mirrored MM a single enemy CV would struggle to kill your amply AAA equipped and fairly manouverable CV quickly.

 

For CVs in general. No, you'll want to bring fighters.

[Gunship14]

Coming from a game where you literally HAD to have fighters on carriers, I may be a bit biased. However, 2 reasons I totally understand you using bombers instead (I have no carrier games, don't bother checking).

 

1) Most of the time fighters can't get the enemy bombers in time, or they start shooting them down after they've done some damage.

2) Judging from screenshots and personal experience with AA, shooting down planes does almost nothing for your exp. I wouldn't use a setup that makes me take twice as long to grind to the next ship, no matter what.

[GODclickerTHEskyEMPEROR]

Opinions, sometimes they seem comforting, but who really needs them in the end. You are not here to live up to anyone's else expectations..so do what you feel like doing the results of your acts will be your reward and it's only up to you to judge if it was worth it or not.

 

You see, some people call me a drug addict,...shallow, narrow-minded fools who understand so little they cannot come up with any other conclusion.

 

Have some compassion towards those who are ignorant.

[Pawndemonium]

Speaking of narrow minded... you probably shouldn't always come up with this drug stuff.

[DtXpwnz]

If he can sneak around and do more dmg/kills than enemy carrier, then he is more useful than enemy carrier with fighters is for his team.

[red_eye1980]

If he can sneak around and do more dmg/kills than enemy carrier, then he is more useful than enemy carrier with fighters is for his team.