[X-MAS] yXOLAXy Players 193 posts 12,190 battles Report post #1126 Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) I will admit it doesn't work ( in the environment I tested it in ;) ). Does that suffice? I heard from others who tested on live that it's really buggy even there and that it seems to be really 'unpolished' but the basics seems to be in place. I will also admit I think this game is more fun without any aim assist existing for it, and that there is no excuse for WG to allow one as the perception it creates is bad. Even if only 1k people actively use it, each time I get citadelled from max range I will hesitate to say: good shot! Instead I will think: was he cheating or was it a good shot/rng? Or when I have a good game, I don't want to read chat going on about how I'm 100% using this and that aim mod from the forums. It kills the fun factor. Do you believe that the problem is the mod aim assist? The real problem now is that having blocked this mod came out cheatautomation, hags club and last but not least warpack (and this is really absurd for what it does) .... so it will be even worse because everything is transformed into a pay to win . For the record it is external programs and not mod Edited February 24, 2016 by yXOLAXy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jammin411 Players 197 posts 555 battles Report post #1127 Posted February 24, 2016 Sadly, yes. And I have no idea how you could prevent this stuff from beeing used. Well, what is going to happen is they will have to disallow all mods. The only true way to avoid a "hack" mod like this is to prevent all mods completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-MAS] yXOLAXy Players 193 posts 12,190 battles Report post #1128 Posted February 24, 2016 Well, what is going to happen is they will have to disallow all mods. The only true way to avoid a "hack" mod like this is to prevent all mods completely. You can also ban all the mods and modding in general but the "hack" that hacks are not the ones without the block because external programs. And those who want to spend aquistare these programs? it is those who allow gioctori premium, premium ships etc etc and believe that the WG block the accounts of these players who consistently open their wallets? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichardNixon Players 340 posts 134 battles Report post #1129 Posted February 24, 2016 Whenever such a report is made while the match is still running, Wargaming uses its own screenshot function to make a screenshot in the accused player's game. This method works for low-grade hacks, but it's quite possible to hook screenshot functionality and evade detection. In the long run, clamping down on hacks just leads to better hacks. The best you can hope for is that the vast majority of players are either scared of installing them, or unwilling to pay for them. The current aim mods are trivially detectable anyway, and WG are probably recording their use since 0.5.3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-MAS] yXOLAXy Players 193 posts 12,190 battles Report post #1130 Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) [edited] Edited February 25, 2016 by BigBadVuk This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsRockAndRoll Players 720 posts 9,732 battles Report post #1131 Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) [edited] So the people who actually keep this game in development by purchasing premium time & ships are more likely to be using cheats! That is some next level conspiracy theory and also quite an offensive accusation. Edited February 25, 2016 by BigBadVuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,714 battles Report post #1132 Posted February 25, 2016 The Witch hunt continues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delaci76 Beta Tester 654 posts Report post #1133 Posted February 25, 2016 The Witch hunt continues. Except there is no such thing as witches just cheats After all these pages still we are here. WTF! Just ban all mods bar skins (which have an official thread on here). Anyone caught using one by random sweeps...instabans. And WG need to make this public and do it and provide lists. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOKOS] Benaulim Beta Tester 284 posts Report post #1134 Posted February 25, 2016 As long as mods like these provide an advantage there will be people using them. The best way to balance the chances and save resources else wasted on fighting them is to include key features in the official client. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tubit101 Players 1,189 posts 4,745 battles Report post #1135 Posted February 25, 2016 Increase GUI customization ability in-game, reduce graphical modability with APIs. Why do we apparently have WG staff making mods of features that should be included as an option in the game instead? I'm thinking of the "smoke circle mod" here... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-MAS] yXOLAXy Players 193 posts 12,190 battles Report post #1136 Posted February 25, 2016 So the people who actually keep this game in development by purchasing premium time & ships are more likely to be using cheats! That is some next level conspiracy theory and also quite an offensive accusation. It is not related to the various testers, but those players who could afford premium and ships, so having disposable income are the first to take advantage of these hacks paid. A player which by its nature does not spend in online games does not spend even for hacks. Mostly the look free.Consideration due to years of play in games where, however, willingly and unwillingly, there was the presence of cheat of all kinds and those that were spending for cheat with performing were those who spent even in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-MAS] yXOLAXy Players 193 posts 12,190 battles Report post #1137 Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) [edited] Edited February 26, 2016 by BigBadVuk This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #1138 Posted February 25, 2016 yXOLAXy, on 25 February 2016 - 01:51 PM, said: (in the face of democracy and freedom of speech and thought) 'Murica! USA! USA! USA! Seriously, you have signed up on a forum that have strict rules that you have to obey. Thinking that it infringes your democracy and free speech is silly, to say the least. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babykim Beta Tester 1,649 posts 6,477 battles Report post #1139 Posted February 25, 2016 'Murica! USA! USA! USA! Seriously, you have signed up on a forum that have strict rules that you have to obey. Thinking that it infringes your democracy and free speech is silly, to say the least. Rules ok, but their interpretation is another thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #1140 Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) [edited] You have no right to free speech or democracy on a private forum. Edited February 26, 2016 by BigBadVuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #1141 Posted February 25, 2016 Rules ok, but their interpretation is another thing. In some cases, but not in this one. Directly linking to cheats is a breach of the forum rules,no mater how fast you can Google it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-MAS] yXOLAXy Players 193 posts 12,190 battles Report post #1142 Posted February 25, 2016 In some cases, but not in this one. Directly linking to cheats is a breach of the forum rules,no mater how fast you can Google it. I did not put any links in forums, I just helped him hack to their name, and have said what was what my thinking or simply the impression I according to wg of behavior.Citing the hacks by name was to put knowledge who really does not know what you are talking about and not to induce them to purchase. Since many users of the forum in words are opposed to these hacks (it reminds me very much of wot LOOOL forum time) and I have the impression that many users make the fake boobies knowing how where and when to retrieve the above hack.In my small way I maintain my consistency, the day that I will see in the forum an official WG 3D with the list of blocked players with nikname related to the use hacks, here is only then I will consider myself satisfied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #1143 Posted February 25, 2016 I take it in your own country, they publish publicly the names of all criminals as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsRockAndRoll Players 720 posts 9,732 battles Report post #1144 Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) It is not related to the various testers, but those players who could afford premium and ships, so having disposable income are the first to take advantage of these hacks paid. A player which by its nature does not spend in online games does not spend even for hacks. Mostly the look free.Consideration due to years of play in games where, however, willingly and unwillingly, there was the presence of cheat of all kinds and those that were spending for cheat with performing were those who spent even in the game. So having enough disposable income ( due to working hard for 40 years ) makes me more likely to be a cheat or dishonest, or both. I'm having serious issues with your constant attempts to classify all premium account players as those being most likely to cheat. We buy premium time for the earning & xp advantages it gives us and also to support further development. Not because we are cheats! Edited February 25, 2016 by LetsRockAndRoll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsRockAndRoll Players 720 posts 9,732 battles Report post #1145 Posted February 25, 2016 I take it in your own country, they publish publicly the names of all criminals as well? Only if they have a premium account or premium ship. God only knows what they do to people who have both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-MAS] yXOLAXy Players 193 posts 12,190 battles Report post #1146 Posted February 25, 2016 So having enough disposable income ( due to working hard for 40 years ) makes me more likely to be a cheat or dishonest, or both. I'm having serious issues with your constant attempts to classify all premium account players as those being most likely to cheat. We buy premium time for the earning & xp advantages it gives us and also to support further development. Not because we are cheats! those who do not understand will never understand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #1147 Posted February 25, 2016 This sounds like that guy who basically accused everyone with >60% win rate of being a likely cheater, just because they can actually play the game he sucks so badly at. Imagine combining the two 'idea's', everyone who pays for premium account and having a >60% win rate is a cheater for sure /tinfoilhat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #1148 Posted February 25, 2016 those who do not understand will never understand Good, then we can lock this thread now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delaci76 Beta Tester 654 posts Report post #1149 Posted February 25, 2016 Good, then we can lock this thread now. Why? Surely it should be closed when WG officially deal with the problem of cheating. If they were to close this and the problem persists am sure a new thread will appear. Burying your head in the sand or making excuses wont work. There is a famous saying "the truth will out". Which means eventually the right decision/action will be taken. WG will have to weigh up this whole situation. Will they start losing their player base? Potentially...although in my own opinion am not to bothered by any cheating and my gut feeling it's there and not to prevalent. Keeps me on my toes! (some match I am twisting and turning like a belly dancer on heat). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsRockAndRoll Players 720 posts 9,732 battles Report post #1150 Posted February 25, 2016 This sounds like that guy who basically accused everyone with >60% win rate of being a likely cheater, just because they can actually play the game he sucks so badly at. Imagine combining the two 'idea's', everyone who pays for premium account and having a >60% win rate is a cheater for sure /tinfoilhat I wouldn't mind that as my WR is nowhere near 60% But seriously the inference that being able to afford a premium account ( £7.85 for 30 days is hardly a princely sum ) makes you more likely to spend money on some aim assist hack is as stupid as it is insulting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites