terrible battleship captains

[Yorkshire_Arty2016]

can anybody please explain why bb's persist in "sniping" from max range? they're lucky to hit more than 1 salvo in 10 and cost teams battle after battle, its rare to see any bb's with more than a couple of kills and those that do are the gutsy bb skippers who actually close with the enemy to 8-10km.  Really feels like dd, cruisers and carriers do all the work for team, while bb skippers hide at the back, big ships, tiny testicles and no brains, sick of having to carry them

[ShuggieHamster]

the poor sods are vulnerable close in. surprises are not good in a BB

had a game where 4 close assaulted our cap ... our defense was my dd and another ... we totalled the 4 bb's with torp crossfire.

might have lacked brains but not faulting the cojones. their dd and cl cover had went glory hunting and got splashed by our well screened BBs.

we won that game losing only 5 ships v total wipe out.

[Figment]

The long answer is: people suck.

 

The short answer is: people.

[66Schwifty]

can anybody please explain why bb's persist in "sniping" from max range? they're lucky to hit more than 1 salvo in 10 and cost teams battle after battle, its rare to see any bb's with more than a couple of kills and those that do are the gutsy bb skippers who actually close with the enemy to 8-10km.  Really feels like dd, cruisers and carriers do all the work for team, while bb skippers hide at the back, big ships, tiny testicles and no brains, sick of having to carry them

 

well, BBs are kind of forced to hang back, and try to snipe from behind the cruisers, since they are primary target for those nasty torpedo bombers, their reload sucks, turning their gun to shoot different target takes ages, and since they have big nasty guns everyone basically targets BBs first. so to head to the front at the start of the game usually means (in my case, at least) a quick and nasty death.

[FlutterRage]

 

well, BBs are kind of forced to hang back, and try to snipe from behind the cruisers, since they are primary target for those nasty torpedo bombers, their reload sucks, turning their gun to shoot different target takes ages, and since they have big nasty guns everyone basically targets BBs first. so to head to the front at the start of the game usually means (in my case, at least) a quick and nasty death.

 

Hanging in the back means you are not even close to your CA covers from air. I find it safer to be in the front line where I can get air cover while I can get far more reliable damage output on the enemy team. The only times when I am too close is when DD is in range to torp me and I am alone.

[Admiral_noodle]

 

well, BBs are kind of forced to hang back, and try to snipe from behind the cruisers, since they are primary target for those nasty torpedo bombers, their reload sucks, turning their gun to shoot different target takes ages, and since they have big nasty guns everyone basically targets BBs first. so to head to the front at the start of the game usually means (in my case, at least) a quick and nasty death.

 

But not at max range all the time. Close support is the name of the game. Position to cover caps with your effective gun range. Don't stray too close to obvious ambush points unless you know it's safe. Pull back when getting focussed to repair and return. Obliterate cruisers in one shot or leave them on low health for others to finish off. Spot planes at distance and take steps to react. 

 

BBs are so powerful if used correctly. I seem to do ok in them. I can't stand sniper BB players or yolo ones either. 

 

Play with me in my BB - I'm not brilliant but I think I'm decent. 

[IamTroublemaker]

Lost so many battles due to extremely passive BBs...

 

I guess they don't want to scratch their paint (I presume its expensive these days to repaint ships)

[allex27]

because they ,,need to use their range ,, and they are ,, stronk sniperzs,,  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Arakus]

can anybody please explain why bb's persist in "sniping" from max range? they're lucky to hit more than 1 salvo in 10 and cost teams battle after battle, its rare to see any bb's with more than a couple of kills and those that do are the gutsy bb skippers who actually close with the enemy to 8-10km.  Really feels like dd, cruisers and carriers do all the work for team, while bb skippers hide at the back, big ships, tiny testicles and no brains, sick of having to carry them

 

How do you play in your Battleships?

[Figment]

How do you play in your Battleships?

 

Translation: he doesn't play BBs, just cruisers and destroyers.

[Shadeshots]

I always get into fights within reason in my BB, and if i do its often me doing all the work while my cruisers,dd's,carriers etc dont, im not scared to get my BB's scratched, unfortunately though alot of people are too scared to get scratched... unfortunately you cant control people.

[Admiral_noodle]

If I'm retreating to heal I usually mention this in chat. I find that people are more reasonable when you tell them why you are doing something. It also helps if you've already nuked a couple of ships

 

[Scilya]

if your in a BB and your not makeing full use of your repair skill, then your not close enough to the battle;)

[Admiral_noodle]

if your in a BB and your not makeing full use of your repair skill, then your not close enough to the battle;)

 

True. I usually use all three... Or four. And I manage to survive a lot of games. And have 4 dreadnought awards.

[Gunship14]

I actually think I'm too aggressive sometimes, I have to remember to hang back a bit. Especially with Iowa which does 30 knots and before I know it I'm well ahead of my team. Been using 3/4s more lately, unless I need to get somewhere quick. I find it helps.

[MFour]

the poor sods are vulnerable close in. surprises are not good in a BB

had a game where 4 close assaulted our cap ... our defense was my dd and another ... we totalled the 4 bb's with torp crossfire.

might have lacked brains but not faulting the cojones. their dd and cl cover had went glory hunting and got splashed by our well screened BBs.

we won that game losing only 5 ships v total wipe out.

 

Lol I had the exact opposite experience a few days ago, our base was assaulted by three DDs and two cruisers with me in a Nagato and some guys that were far away being the only defense, killed 4 of them (2 with secondaries) and survived to win the battle =P

[havaduck]

My experince:

 

Me driving a cruiser: I am the closest to the enemy, drawing the fire and evading like crazy while some the allied BB are allmost as far away as the enemy and not hitting much or at all.

 

Me driving a battleship: I am the closest to the enemy, tanking fire yet the cruiser veer away the moment the enemy pops up, hiding behind islands or at least completely out of their range. 

 

Me driving a carrier: Yes, I had a few occasions where I was closer to the enemy than most of my fleet ...

 

 

I see a pattern here ... and ranked did (at least for me) nothing to fix the unbearable cowardice and [edited]sniffing of random teams.

 

€: But oh the few occasions at least 1 or 2 ships stays with you ..... I had a game with a friendly Nagato where we won a 5 on 2 (4 other battleships).

[Foehamster419]

 

How do you play in your Battleships?

 

He's probably the kind of battleship that drives right into the thick of it, like some kind of flagship before dying to the first destroyer submarine hybrid he comes across.

 

My experince:

 

Me driving a cruiser: I am the closest to the enemy, drawing the fire and evading like crazy while some the allied BB are allmost as far away as the enemy and not hitting much or at all.

 

Me driving a battleship: I am the closest to the enemy, tanking fire yet the cruiser veer away the moment the enemy pops up, hiding behind islands or at least completely out of their range. 

 

Me driving a carrier: Yes, I had a few occasions where I was closer to the enemy than most of my fleet ...

 

 

I see a pattern here ... and ranked did (at least for me) nothing to fix the unbearable cowardice and [edited]sniffing of random teams.

 

 

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe you just drive too close to the other guys?

[Synth_FG]

Turn it round,

why do CA drivers consistently bugger off towards the enemy at 35kts+ 

leaving we BB drives maxed out at just over 20kts a long way behind

consistently moan when they get slaughtered before the BB's can get into any kind of shooting range of the enemy 

[Crysantos]

can anybody please explain why bb's persist in "sniping" from max range? they're lucky to hit more than 1 salvo in 10 and cost teams battle after battle, its rare to see any bb's with more than a couple of kills and those that do are the gutsy bb skippers who actually close with the enemy to 8-10km.  Really feels like dd, cruisers and carriers do all the work for team, while bb skippers hide at the back, big ships, tiny testicles and no brains, sick of having to carry them

 

I'm a brawler, that's what BBs are designed for - but you need to adapt to the situation and sometimes fall back. I think there's no "do always this" strategy for a ship, it depends a lot on the current position of your fleet and the enemy, team composition (CV, DD) and the current strategic situation. The BB that just leroys to the front to die horribly to the first DD and the combined fire of the enemy fleet is no help to anybody either ;)

[havaduck]

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe you just drive too close to the other guys?

 

Yes, but then I started looking at the result screens ...

 

Also I cant count how many times the "snipers", cowards and [edited]sniffer throw away a won game, because their bill might be 8k higher.

I will even give you one example: Us beeing capped, but we soon be caping them by DD, I allready shifted course and even tho the [edited]sniffer were closer I am first to engage the enemy 3 or 4 ships alone ... of course.

I decap for severall minutes while [edited]sniffing Izumo and NC used the time to run and hide behind a island lobing the occasional shell from more than 20 km, doing nothing effective. I sink, they dont hit, we loose by a smal margin in capping.

So I looked the Izumos profile up: 20k average damage. Well thats bad ...... but maybe he free-exp a lot? 30 Games in Izumo .... 22k average damage.

 

And I even did a few games where I tried that sniping .... guess what: You dont hit crap, for example: even with 480 exp I got second place behind a 540 exp guy.

That was in a team of complete sheeps: we lost to cap, but had only lost 2 or 3 ships - but yeah back there it is pretty save from torps or shells I have to say.

 

 

 

I am not about stats, but trying to play the best and win the actual damn match. If I would play like all the other [edited]sniffers I would for sure never see a victory screen ever again, except some random wins on points after the time runs out or when someone other aggresivly carries the game.

 

 

€: here i found the Izumo driver, hope the name isnt visible anywhere ....

How do you justify this?

(also avg battletier is 6,3 also true wallet-warrior if there ever was one because even with premium his performance is to abyssmal ... to own t9 ship )

 

 

 

 

[cherry2blost]

 

True. I usually use all three... Or four. And I manage to survive a lot of games. And have 4 dreadnought awards.

 

can anybody please explain why bb's persist in "sniping" from max range? they're lucky to hit more than 1 salvo in 10 and cost teams battle after battle, its rare to see any bb's with more than a couple of kills and those that do are the gutsy bb skippers who actually close with the enemy to 8-10km.  Really feels like dd, cruisers and carriers do all the work for team, while bb skippers hide at the back, big ships, tiny testicles and no brains, sick of having to carry them

 

because they ,,need to use their range ,, and they are ,, stronk sniperzs,,  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

 

Hey guys... I must be playing my Battleships all wrong then....

 

16 Fireproofs, 2 Unsinkable, 37 Dreadnoughts, 38 Confederates....

 

Must learn to sit back and snipe more, that whole getting within 8 to 10 KM is costing me wins and damage dealing ability.....

[Realtbhuion]

it's just luck.

 

this is how it goes for me when i play BB.

 

team divides sensibly rather than lemming train : 

 

i push forwards, rest of team seems to conclude BB has more HP and is therefore a shield and stays behind me, either this results in me getting focused on straight away, or in other team having focused on them until i get a kill and they remember i'm there and THEN focusing on me.

 

team lemming trains : i disregard the lemming train because if someone doesn't go the opposite direction and hold up the other team while they die, the lemming train won't have the time to kill the other team on their side and make it to cap in time to cap before the other team caps our cap point.

 

there are a few matches where things go sensibly and people actually support each other properly, but those are rare.

 

most BB players tend, from what i've seen, to play similarly. i encounter very few bb players who hang back and try to snipe. ( granted i haven't played anything above t6 outside of public test, because i'm levelling all non-cv lines at once. hate cv play. ) the problem i see isn't bad BB players, it's BB players doing a BB's damn job, but not getting proper support while they do so, and then getting the blame for the rest of the team's failure to understand class roles and co-ordinate as a team accordingly.

 

 

[lupulsur]

hi all,

 two reasons to not brawl in bb:

1. all team will let you alone and all will be happy to snipe when you receive damage from 4-5 ships in the same time and call you noob when you ask support

2.is suicide to brawl with bb when in your brawl direction is dd`s and  your CAs hides after islands

-I still brawl with my NM, but is amazing when biggest BB and half of CA hide after islands and out of fire for 3-4 min and let you alone with half of enemy team in front, I see a lot in ranked mode when T7 hide after t6 ships, and t6 take all damage and t7 take all kill, these players are dangerous to meet in own team, and is hard to avoid they, best try to ask they to not become over stupid.

 

[caldark]

I always try to get within 10km with my Battleships.. I dont enjoy sniping from long range..