To all DD drivers

[RayPall]

To all DD drivers out there. 

 

Please, PLEASE, watch your line of fire when firing torps. Two times in a row, I got torp'd by a friendly DD in my Phoenix. Two times, the same scenario

• I'm busy fighting enemy DD
• I keep maneuvering as much as I can to throw off his aim, so he won't get a torp firing solution
• I'm quite hammering him, 3/4 of his health gone + multiple crits
• suddenly a spread of torps from a friendly DD somewhere behind me, usually too close to dodge
• either most of my health gone, flooding, usually some crits (as Phoenix is not exactly a sturdy ship), or I'm dead instantly

 

Several times, I got team torp'd even in a battleship! How the hell can someone accidentally hit something so large and slow as BB? I'm amazed how many DD drivers are suffering from tunnel vision when trying to get a torp firing solution and are firing full spreads of torpedoes directly crossing paths of friendly ships. 

 

And since there are no TK reporting tools as far as I know (I'm quite a rookie in WoWS), the only thing left for me is frustration and rage.

 

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[Nagine]

Agree. However, this more often addresses torp wielding japanese CAs, especially Atagos.

[IamTroublemaker]

I do not mind avoiding friendly torps that have a chance of hitting the opponent, but what I do really hate when I see a Phoenix or Omaha trying to torp an opponent at 10-12 km away and hit me. That pisses me off so much

[Lord_WC]

I love most when USN DDs teamkill me with their torps because they started launching at an enemy which is still 12km away.

[willTell]

 To all DD drivers

 

1-) I am offended by this generalisation.

 

2-) Don't saying that low tier dds are not trigger happy and send their torps through allied lines, but usually more often than not, low tier cruisers tend to go where they don't have any business.

3-) No matter how tunnelvisioned others are, it's your responsibility to be aware of your surroundings at all times no matter the ship.

4-) I get torped by allied Atagos all the time, do they hit me? Not yet.

[EsaTuunanen]

 low tier cruisers tend to go where they don't have any business.

Neither do DDs have any business in second line unless it's using its guns to give fire support.

[willTell]

Yeah

Neither do DDs have any business in second line unless it's using its guns to give fire support.

 

I don't disagree, but there is not much you can do about it other than pay attention or get nuked.

[simonmd]

To all DD drivers out there. 

 

Please, PLEASE, watch your line of fire when firing torps. Two times in a row, I got torp'd by a friendly DD in my Phoenix. 

 

LMAO, right back at ya Cruiser driver. I'm not justifying it, however I have seen MANY more stupidly fired torps from CRUISERS than DDs. There are some really dumb DD players yes but torps are their main weapon so the majority are much more aware of their risks and how to use them. Cruisers however only fire torps as a secondary weapon and so often dont think about whats around them as thats how they use their guns. I know how you feel but to just aim your rant at ALL DDs is just daft.

 

Only this evening I was in a game where a BB got sunk by accident by a cruiser on our team who had no situational awareness, now only did the BB have to eat 2 of our own torps, he couldnt turn away from a load of enemy ones either and got sunk between the two!

[ShuggieHamster]

not got a lot of sympathy for the brother dd driver who launches ahead of friendlies. you need to hold up till theres a shooting solution behind the friendly

 

However if you see a friendly dd in a close in knife fight with another DD you should either kill the enemy dd quick OR get the heck away from that fight cause torps will be coming out of that furball at a scary rate. its not tunnel vision in there - its an xwing down the deathstar trench moment. frankly at that moment I'd happily use a friendly as bolt on ablative armour.

also note we dont have a lot of control over torps that were launched safely 60-90 seconds ago but are now a danger to all shipping 7-15km later. we cant predict where you are going to be. 

 

I admit to 2 TK's ... one was a 7km kill of a BB (oops!), the other a CL that thought that I was simply fishing while parked in a smoked screen round a corner from an oncoming furry T and decided he would jump in front of me just as I launched (ouch!).  Still I did apologise for both ... got no reply from the BB and an "I hate you" from the CL

[Shadeshots]

Most friendly torps come from cruisers actually than DD's and if your getting torped by DD's why on earth are you even that close in the first place in a cruiser?

[justpleying]

Most friendly torps come from cruisers actually than DD's and if your getting torped by DD's why on earth are you even that close in the first place in a cruiser?

 

any ship with torps can friendly hit 

[Bigglesof206]

'and if your getting torped by DD's why on earth are you even that close in the first place in a cruiser?'

 

seems to me that this weekend has been a complete free for all for the brainless (no surprise there I guess) - I've been torped 4 times, twice I've been TK'd by people who think it's clever to fire torps from behind friendlies - it has been 50:50 DD and CA drivers doing it, I've certainly seen a lot of CA drivers firing through other friendly ships a lot more than usual, and I think it's down to them not having a clue about their torp range as much as anything.....it isn't about me being too far forward or whatever, there are too many people firing torps from distances they can only get friendlies from, who compound their lack of knowledge of their weapons with an awareness I would hesitate to ascribe to a particularly dumb fence post.

 

 

[RayPall]

Most friendly torps come from cruisers actually than DD's and if your getting torped by DD's why on earth are you even that close in the first place in a cruiser?

 

First time, I was kinda over-eager, went frontline and stumbled upon bumrushing Isokaze. I detected him (that's 6.1 km) and started hammering him. He went broadside, obviously aiming torps, so I just started my torp dance to throw him off - keeping that sneaky SOB in your sights + maneuvering kinda eats up your situational awareness. I knew there was friendly Clemson somewhere behind me, but I was too busy avoiding baddie's torps and rounds of his buddies to notice he just fired torps directly into my course. 

 

Second time, I rather held back, hammered some bogeys from distance, but suddenly, enemy Clemson showed up, rushing through the edge of the map to stomp our CV's. So I blocked his path, guns blazing, and forced him to knife fight. Probably not the smartest thing to do in a cruiser, but hey - that's the way it turned out. Again, I dodged several of his spreads, friendly Wickes rushed to help...and put a torp spread crossing my course. Bad timing - I was dodging Clem's torps and I got caught into a crossfire.

 

I'm not saying I did everything right - I didn't, I'm still getting grip of Phoenix and I'm trying new stuff. But getting torp'd by friendlies? Please. 

 

1-) I am offended by this generalisation.

 

2-) Don't saying that low tier dds are not trigger happy and send their torps through allied lines, but usually more often than not, low tier cruisers tend to go where they don't have any business.

3-) No matter how tunnelvisioned others are, it's your responsibility to be aware of your surroundings at all times no matter the ship.

4-) I get torped by allied Atagos all the time, do they hit me? Not yet.

 

1) Didn't mean to offend you or any other DD driver - if you watch your fire, then I love you. In fact, I met many incredibly good DDers - that kind of a guy who is able to solo two BB's and one carrier in a one game. I meant my post just to remind those more trigger-happy DD drivers to check their line of fire before spamming torps - especially, it applies to Japanese DD's firing torps from their max range even if they know there's a friendly cruiser. 

 

2) Did not encounter them so far. Myself, I use torps only at range like 3 km, or I don't use them at all. 

 

3) I hear ya. As I said, I'm not innocent and lesson is learned - no more bumrushing in a Phoenix. But it drives me mad to be blown up by friendlies. 

 

4) Then you're clearly better than me.

 

I just needed to vent my rage, so sorry for inconvenience. 

[Takeda92]

Even Tirpitz has torps now so it's not just for destroyers drivers.

[Nagine]

 we dont have a lot of control over torps that were launched safely 60-90 seconds ago but are now a danger to all shipping 7-15km later. we cant predict where you are going to be. 

 

Well, in such situations you can at least warn that friendly ship to be careful.

[Shadeshots]

 

any ship with torps can friendly hit 

 

When in my reply did i say only certain ships can friendly hit? I said most friendly torps come from cruisers actually than DD's ...

Read before posting.

 

 

First time, I was kinda over-eager, went frontline and stumbled upon bumrushing Isokaze. I detected him (that's 6.1 km) and started hammering him. He went broadside, obviously aiming torps, so I just started my torp dance to throw him off - keeping that sneaky SOB in your sights + maneuvering kinda eats up your situational awareness. I knew there was friendly Clemson somewhere behind me, but I was too busy avoiding baddie's torps and rounds of his buddies to notice he just fired torps directly into my course. 

 

Second time, I rather held back, hammered some bogeys from distance, but suddenly, enemy Clemson showed up, rushing through the edge of the map to stomp our CV's. So I blocked his path, guns blazing, and forced him to knife fight. Probably not the smartest thing to do in a cruiser, but hey - that's the way it turned out. Again, I dodged several of his spreads, friendly Wickes rushed to help...and put a torp spread crossing my course. Bad timing - I was dodging Clem's torps and I got caught into a crossfire.

 

I'm not saying I did everything right - I didn't, I'm still getting grip of Phoenix and I'm trying new stuff. But getting torp'd by friendlies? Please. 

 

1) Didn't mean to offend you or any other DD driver - if you watch your fire, then I love you. In fact, I met many incredibly good DDers - that kind of a guy who is able to solo two BB's and one carrier in a one game. I meant my post just to remind those more trigger-happy DD drivers to check their line of fire before spamming torps - especially, it applies to Japanese DD's firing torps from their max range even if they know there's a friendly cruiser. 

 

2) Did not encounter them so far. Myself, I use torps only at range like 3 km, or I don't use them at all. 

 

3) I hear ya. As I said, I'm not innocent and lesson is learned - no more bumrushing in a Phoenix. But it drives me mad to be blown up by friendlies. 

 

4) Then you're clearly better than me.

 

I just needed to vent my rage, so sorry for inconvenience. 

 

I wasnt attempting to troll you i was just merely asking why you was in a position to be team torped, i main DD's and yes ive team torped by mistake myself, and when thats happened it has been because a cruiser and/or Battleship is sailing right in front of me, since im not expecting one to be there. Ive also been team torped myself and again it is mostly cruisers i have found that do it, more than destroyers. 

 

What i wish as a DD player is that people supported you more, they expect you to do alot of work yet your fragile and cant always do all that work. Especially in american Destroyers which  are my favorites.

 

[ironhammer500]

I do not mind avoiding friendly torps that have a chance of hitting the opponent, but what I do really hate when I see a Phoenix or Omaha trying to torp an opponent at 10-12 km away and hit me. That pisses me off so much

 

This, i swear they are trying to torp me and not another ship...

[Luckyio]

I just torped three times in a row by a US DD from less than kilometer while we didn't have a single ship in his torpedo range. I was IJN DD, and I barely dodged twice. He got me with one torpedo the third time reducing me to one shot victim for the enemy.

 

And I'm fairly certain it wasn't intentional. He just was that bad.

 

So don't worry about it. Everyone suffers from those few clueless players, but that's just how the game is.

[FlamingHooligan]

I just torped three times in a row by a US DD from less than kilometer while we didn't have a single ship in his torpedo range. I was IJN DD, and I barely dodged twice. He got me with one torpedo the third time reducing me to one shot victim for the enemy.

 

And I'm fairly certain it wasn't intentional. He just was that bad.

 

So don't worry about it. Everyone suffers from those few clueless players, but that's just how the game is.

 

From how you describe it it would look fairly intentional to me.. unless of course as mentioned above you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

I too cop a few torps from friendly but it's usually because I'm somewhere I shouldn't be.

[Citronvand]

I have to agree with OP. Had a great game with my Kongou but it was cut short by a trigger happy destroyer that thought it was a good idea to fire torpedoes behind a friendly battleship (that would be me). I'm sorry, but I need to be able to take evasive maneuvers from enemy torpedoes and BB AP shells. I'm not going in a straight line and if you fire torpedoes behind me there's a chance I will "dodge" into them.

 

All of this reminds me of artillery in WoT. You know when they fire on the enemy even though you're next to it just because they want the kill? Then end up hitting and killing you instead.

 

 

[th3freakie]

Last night I committed this sin, when in a Gremy, fired my torpedoes close ahead of a friendly CA. He would have passed behind the torps if he kept the course, but for some reason he decided to veer hard starboard into an enemy smoke cloud and into the path of one of the torps. My fault anyway for assuming a team-member would act in a certain way, when I couldn't be sure.

 

Sometimes the DDs are completely not at fault, though. The worst team-kill that I suffered was in my Omaha, I had just finished killing an enemy BB, but he broke my engine. Several seconds before that, a friendly DD had fired long-range torpedoes. I was immobilized right in their path. The both of us could only look on in panic as the inevitable happened.

 

...the next day I did the same to a friendly CA on my Hatsuharu. Sometimes RNGesus hates you.

[OverPenokio]

Never shoot torps in front of friendys at short range (shoot behind them at close range)

Never shoot torps at long range where friendlys are

 

Simple isnt it? 

I understand you want the kills, and I understand that you are eager but just must have patience.

Dont shoot when it might occur to you you can hit one of your own. 

 

One more thing, crap happens. The average kills because of FF during WW2 was between 10 and 14 percent. So WoW isn't to bad is it? ;)

 

Cheers, Gilles. 

[Naatibus]

Well i managed to Torpedo our CV during the weekend, in my defence i was at3km range from a enemy DD and the CV for some unexplicable reason decided to pass between us... go figure. I might add that we were fighting between the islands at the time...

[_Agent_]

I am a primary USN DD driver and the worst culprits for this are cruisers firing torps out of range sometimes so close you cant dodge less then 1.5k. had one today hit me with one as i dodged hard he then turned around and fired again into my direction at which point to save myself i torped him(*Target was 8 klicks away and moving away so he couldn't even hit)

[RayPall]

And again. 

 

Driving my Albany (I know it's kinda POS, but hey - just for fun) on Solomon Islands. I see two enemy Wakatakes derping around our middle capzone and our Sampson trying to push them out. So I go in to bring some heavier firepower there (I would need to move up close anyway due to extremely bad range of Albany). One Wakatake got nuked by the friendly Sampson, the other is still somewhere out there in the strait, covered by smokescreen. I find him, I spot him, I hammer him while dodging his torpedoes.

 

Then suddenly, torp alert from behind - two spreads fired from Sampson (who was so focused to fire his torps he ran aground) so neatly, that torp paths cross. If I turn, I will offer torps only bigger target and eat like three torpedoes. If I stay, I will eat two torpedoes directly to my bow. 

BAM - two torps in my bow, 280-ish HP left, flooding, engine is down. Enemy Umikaze, who was guarding the other side of the strait, pops a single shot in me, blowing me up. 

I'm done. Looks like I attract those people or something. Leave me alone TK DD's ;_;