Ranked Battles as a game design doesn't really work

[Grandma]

I was really looking forward to Ranked Battles. I longed for more team play and to get away from all the children players and ego-shooters, that were ruining my game experience. At first it was fun and I made it to Level 18 fast. Then many poor players were carried up to higher levels too by receiving stars they didn't earn. They are now ruining the game again. Communication is in small battles with few ships now even more important, but it usually just doesn't work with poor players or children in the team. They disregard orders, don't listen and keep on ego-shooting with no respect to team play. The teams that communicate better - usually win. No matter how good you personally play, if your team doesn't coordinate - you lose a star and a good stat. In larger battles, ego-shooting can still win the game. But in Ranked Battles zone capturing is the major game winner. There, more assistance and team coordination is needed.
 

I thought Ranked Battles was designed to part the players into realms of better game balance and understanding to increase fun, when playing with equally experienced players. But that is not working since children and poor players are also being transported to game levels they didn't really earn to be in. Not only that, but communication is now an extremely important medium in this kind of game, but is not really manageable during battle via keystroke.

 

To bad...I quess we have to wait for clan battles to get a better player matching to resolve.

[ColonelPete]

If you are good, you will advance.

Your unwillingless to participate in other similar threads might give a hint at your teamplay problem.

[cherry2blost]

I was really looking forward to Ranked Battles. I longed for more team play and to get away from all the children players and ego-shooters, that were ruining my game experience. At first it was fun and I made it to Level 18 fast. Then many poor players were carried up to higher levels too by receiving stars they didn't earn. They are now ruining the game again. Communication is in small battles with few ships now even more important, but it usually just doesn't work with poor players or children in the team. They disregard orders, don't listen and keep on ego-shooting with no respect to team play. The teams that communicate better - usually win. No matter how good you personally play, if your team doesn't coordinate - you lose a star and a good stat. In larger battles, ego-shooting can still win the game. But in Ranked Battles zone capturing is the major game winner. There, more assistance and team coordination is needed.

 

I thought Ranked Battles was designed to part the players into realms of better game balance and understanding to increase fun, when playing with equally experienced players. But that is not working since children and poor players are also being transported to game levels they didn't really earn to be in. Not only that, but communication is now an extremely important medium in this kind of game, but is not really manageable during battle via keystroke.

 

To bad...I quess we have to wait for clan battles to get a better player matching to resolve.

 

Am seeing much the same thing here too, can play out of your skin but without teamwork it doesn't work, been down to level 18, now back to 21 and it is heart breaking watching team after team throw away a chance to win by sheer stupidity and unwillingness to co ordinate.... I for one will be giving this mode a rest once more....

[Astral_Eclipse]

At first ranked battles will be bad, because the bad players will be carried on the backs of goodones, but you need to give it time so that more players join the ranked fun and that the bad players are "weeded" out from higher ranks. It's only a questions of time not a question of failed ranked battle sheme.

[anonym_GKEljZAsgbBN]

As your WR is at 44.6%, I'm sorry but you're not necessarily the unicum of WoWS yourself.

Ranked mode is competitive, and it's not there to make everybody a superstar - you've got single-player games for that.

 

[FaceFisted]

If you are good, you will advance.

Your unwillingless to participate in other similar threads might give a hint at your teamplay problem.

 

This is not true. Ranked battles are pure luck and are subject to MM putting you in good or bad teams. I am managing great in random battles (teamplay and supporting other players goes without saying), but I can't progress further than rank 24 in this battles. One game - extreme victory, I have 3-4 kills, next game - complete ruin, my team falls apart and I end up as only one that actually did any significant damage while the rest of the team is somewhere far far away from battlefield, trying to do god knows what.  I guess first 2-3 ranks are hardest to play since you have to go through all of this mud and terrible players until you end up with someone who actually knows how to play in team.

 

This game mod is frustrating and I don't see any point in playing it any more. I have returned to random.

[SteelF1st]

This game mod is frustrating and I don't see any point in playing it any more. I have returned to random.  Agreed, its  very hard to win with random ppl... 1 battle win 4 lost, no THX , this will end like Historic battles in WoT...

[Nephilimer]

 

This is not true. Ranked battles are pure luck and are subject to MM putting you in good or bad teams. I am managing great in random battles (teamplay and supporting other players goes without saying), but I can't progress further than rank 24 in this battles. One game - extreme victory, I have 3-4 kills, next game - complete ruin, my team falls apart and I end up as only one that actually did any significant damage while the rest of the team is somewhere far far away from battlefield, trying to do god knows what.  I guess first 2-3 ranks are hardest to play since you have to go through all of this mud and terrible players until you end up with someone who actually knows how to play in team.

 

This game mod is frustrating and I don't see any point in playing it any more. I have returned to random.

 

No, its not. 7v7 is more skill based than 12 v 12, anyone below avg. will drown own team again and again.

[HugoDantes]

Stop complaining Grandma and others, the game works as intended. You cant carry bad players. They might get lucky a few games but at lower tiers they are gone.

 

[JapLance]

I'll give it a 2nd try during week days. During the weekend, just like in WoT, rosters are full of bad players, and bad players are more of a burden than in randoms.

[Figment]

I've got a bigger issue with the smaller numbers making certain classes that are too situational uncompetitive. A 4.5km torp range on Farragut for instance doesn't work around a lot of cruisers that are free to focus fire and control the locations of combat.

[jimonwye]

I didn't expect to enjoy the Ranked Battles, but to my surprise I've found that simply asking the plan, ( A or B ), asking DD's to cap and run, BB's not to sail off, is about all the "team plan" needed.

Maybe I've just had my best ever winning streak, made level 16 after 30 battles. On the whole the players on both teams were playing far better than in Randoms.

I played the first 15 in DD's, however, the exp awarded fails to reward DD's for doing their duty very well (few kills), so switched to a CA and doubled and credit my exp earnings per battle, and increased kill and win rate.

I suggest if you're having problems to try a different class, I thought I was a better DD player than I am in a CA, but I'm not in Ranked.

Also watch the map and be more ready to change what you're doing as necessary, as 1/7th of the team, and maybe the only ship of your class (or one of few), playing your designated role is essential.

PS It should have been promoted as a competition to win flags, calling it Ranked will cause lots of arguments.

 

[Vulgarny]

I was really looking forward to Ranked Battles. I longed for more team play and to get away from all the children players and ego-shooters, that were ruining my game experience. At first it was fun and I made it to Level 18 fast. Then many poor players were carried up to higher levels too by receiving stars they didn't earn. They are now ruining the game again. Communication is in small battles with few ships now even more important, but it usually just doesn't work with poor players or children in the team. They disregard orders, don't listen and keep on ego-shooting with no respect to team play. The teams that communicate better - usually win. No matter how good you personally play, if your team doesn't coordinate - you lose a star and a good stat. In larger battles, ego-shooting can still win the game. But in Ranked Battles zone capturing is the major game winner. There, more assistance and team coordination is needed.

 

I thought Ranked Battles was designed to part the players into realms of better game balance and understanding to increase fun, when playing with equally experienced players. But that is not working since children and poor players are also being transported to game levels they didn't really earn to be in. Not only that, but communication is now an extremely important medium in this kind of game, but is not really manageable during battle via keystroke.

 

To bad...I quess we have to wait for clan battles to get a better player matching to resolve.

 

Just pray that they wont have brilliant idea and will be matching randomly players in CW.  Ranked battles would be way better if they actually be team based where you could apply with 6 friends that you choose to play then  6 random dudes

[MVA90]

Personally i have hit a wall when i try to get higher than lvl 19 (whit 48 battles).  I think the problem is match-making groups, (lvl 25-21, 20-11 and 10-1), because you can go to lvl 21 whitout any skill because levels 25 to 21 are irrevocable, so you dont need any skills to get more "seasoned" match-making group which is levels 20-11. And there you can get 2 battles minimum before dropping back to lvl 21 and it only takes 2 wins to get back so you wont "weed out" the less skillfull playes before level 10, which is only a distant dream when you have to watch your team fail time and again no matter what you do. 

 

WG should chance MM-groups to little more challenging, for example you should need 3 star to advance levels 25-21 (6 wins a row to get level 20 now) and maybe change MM-groups to 25-19, 18-10 and 9-1 so you'd have to play good to get on the second MM-group. That way you had to play more before you get to play whit more advanced players.

[FaceFisted]

WG should chance MM-groups to little more challenging, for example you should need 3 star to advance levels 25-21 (6 wins a row to get level 20 now) and maybe change MM-groups to 25-19, 18-10 and 9-1 so you'd have to play good to get on the second MM-group. That way you had to play more before you get to play whit more advanced players.

 

Now that is sadism. I can see how people would be frustrated by this.

[Unintentional_submarine]

Personally I'm sitting out on Ranked for the time being. Partially to let them fix whatever bugs there are (seems there are some issues with granting stars for victories), but also to let the players settle into their positions. Thus I can predict behaviour ahead of time and not get frustrated once I begin. Or at least that is the plan. Can't be sure it will work.

[MVA90]

 

Now that is sadism. I can see how people would be frustrated by this.

 

Let me refrase that part  what i ment was, it is far too easy to get level 20 whit "little" luck ( 6 wins in a row), and even if you lose one battle in levels 25-21, you just need 2 wins to level up and you get next level which you can't lose so there is no skill needed to advance

[ColonelPete]

 

This is not true. Ranked battles are pure luck and are subject to MM putting you in good or bad teams. I am managing great in random battles (teamplay and supporting other players goes without saying), but I can't progress further than rank 24 in this battles. One game - extreme victory, I have 3-4 kills, next game - complete ruin, my team falls apart and I end up as only one that actually did any significant damage while the rest of the team is somewhere far far away from battlefield, trying to do god knows what.  I guess first 2-3 ranks are hardest to play since you have to go through all of this mud and terrible players until you end up with someone who actually knows how to play in team.

 

This game mod is frustrating and I don't see any point in playing it any more. I have returned to random.

Then you are not good or patient enough.

Anybody is able to reach rank 20 with enough matches.

[Philipp_ab_exterminatore]

there is basically no team work i had a few games came top of team in both and went with the main force sadly as enemies were spotted the players sailed off 1 by 1 at them with most of us telling them to stay in formation. People dont listen so no matter how good you are how well you play its still stupidly hard to get  win. randoms seem to have more teamplay

 

[Vogel]

The only limitation to ranked battles are ship class. ATM, you really are at a disadvantage if your team has "less OP ships" than the enemy. And since each team most often than not have 2-3 Clevelands.....

 

If the game balance was more up to par, then it wouldn't matter as much that you had some bad teammates.

[Grandma]

If you are good, you will advance.

Your unwillingless to participate in other similar threads might give a hint at your teamplay problem.

 

What are you talking about? I have no teamplay problem. On the contrary - I wish there was teamplay. And what makes you derive that because I don't partipate in similar threats, that I have problems with teams. That is an incredible and immature conviction! You don't know me and have no right to judge me. And as you see, most of the threads here are complaining about similar experiences. It seems to be you who is having trouble with social behaviour.

[Grandma]

As your WR is at 44.6%, I'm sorry but you're not necessarily the unicum of WoWS yourself.

Ranked mode is competitive, and it's not there to make everybody a superstar - you've got single-player games for that.

 

 

Great personal contribution Scumbag...all I can say to you is "nomen est omen".

[ColonelPete]

You think that your opinion is more important than others, that it deserves its own thread instead of contributing to other threads.

[SailingDutchy]

As your WR is at 44.6%, I'm sorry but you're not necessarily the unicum of WoWS yourself.

Ranked mode is competitive, and it's not there to make everybody a superstar - you've got single-player games for that.

 

 

sorry mate to disrup you but winrate say notting in this game some players got a high winrate because thy play in a division and the 1 that play alone have a low winrate so i tink dmg done and k/d ratio say more.

 

 

[Grandma]

You think that your opinion is more important than others, that it deserves its own thread instead of contributing to other threads.

 

What's wrong with you Pete? Why are you accusing me of creating a new thread? Do you expect me to search and read thousands of threads to find my theme somewhere? Do I have no right to start my own thread? Are you an authorized admin here - or just bitching around? If you have a admin function here, well - then do your job and take this whole thread somewhere else where you think it should be. Otherwise mind your own business!