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A lot of players use the border map exploit that everyone knows, they use it constantly. Last game i played, 8 enemy ships of the opponent team were using it.

Well i suggest that it should be the same as WOT.: if u touch the border of the map, your ship stops and u could add than until a ship is touching the border map, that ship cannot fire.

Or do u prefer to see the future of this game played on the borders of the maps?

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well i know in one other naval game how it was resolved, you couldnt fire or use consumables or launch planes while you were at border . also  there was a timer going on , and if you stayed over 30 sec touching it- you were out of the game with a loss.

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they apperantly tried your suggestion on test server before and it didnt turn out good for the ones that accidently run into map boundries

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For crying out loud, how many topics do you people need on this non-issue?

 

EDIT: To all the negreppers: learn to use the search function! We don't need all these topics on the same thing!

 

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/31094-blue-line-riders/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/24336-map-border-exploiting-when-will-this-stop/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/30134-how-do-you-report-cheaters-or-bugg-users-or-what-do-i-miss/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/29822-border-hugging/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/29472-damage-for-border-abusers/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/29142-map-borders-need-rework/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/28576-suggestions-for-improvement-the-borders/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/27795-suggestion-border-surfing/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/27645-whats-the-one-thing-in-this-game-that-makes-you-rage/

 

[insert more on the same topic here]

 

Virtually each containing loads of unconstructive solutionssuggestions containing incredibly harsh punishments that blanket burn everyone who gets even near the edge by accident, just because the players making the suggestions don't understand the game's time scope and just want to rid themselves of the few exploiters.

 

Considering just how many players are virtually forced by game design to hit the edge, it's incredibly unconstructive to suggest harsh penalties for something that's so easily remedied with good aim and predicting movement (hence I find it a non-issue indeed since it barely affects me when I'm faced with one). And yes, that includes CV torp attacks which are still fairly easy to aim at border huggers, despite the turning (hint: don't allow a turn to affect their chance of hitting and they have a lot harder time with diagonal runs and torps near parallel to the border line... Try to think why that is...).

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Let them hang out at the border, if there are 8 there, that means you only have to take out 4 ships to take over the capture points and win.

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they apperantly tried your suggestion on test server before and it didnt turn out good for the ones that accidently run into map boundries

 

We did not.

 

 

For crying out loud, how many topics do you people need on this non-issue?

 

It obviously is an issue as some players think it is legitimate to try and exploit. Yes, of course you can shoot them but trying to educate the uninitiated is hard indeed!

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We did not.

 

Really? Was it at alpha? I am too lazy to find sharana's(or whoever was that guy who said this) post to prove my words :unsure:

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Border grinding makes me mad. It creates so much hatred. Even if I do it for some seconds (by accident) some idiot often call it out and starts with the moaning and often reporting. Its a discrace!

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It obviously is an issue as some players think it is legitimate to try and exploit. Yes, of course you can shoot them but trying to educate the uninitiated is hard indeed!

 

We can shoot people that don't know the search function of the forums?

 

here is an exploiter

 

Here's someone who is apparently smarter than you at killing the near easiest targets in game.

I don't exploit this (it happens if you run into it as you have to at times, but I don't want to be in an easy to hit position). You do realise SLOW TARGETS ALONG A STRAIGHT LINE ARE EASY TARGETS? Right?

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After the patch, it's even easier to shoot border sliders, because they are now tracked correctly.

 

And every ship loves targets sailing in a straight line. Period.

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Really? Was it at alpha? I am too lazy to find sharana's(or whoever was that guy who said this) post to prove my words :unsure:

 

- they were thinking the border problem was solved with the last patch, the players feedback says otherwise. They will think about it again and add something in one of the big patches, but "soft solution" again. They tested radical solutions like making the border solid, but that failed on the tests and was scraped. They will eventually find a way to remove the advantage players gain in some situations on the border without punishing players who get there unintentionally.

Besides there is such thing as internal test before ST,PT and live version.

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I  don't exploit this (it happens if you run into it as you have to at times, but I don't want to be in an easy to hit position). You do realise SLOW TARGETS ALONG A STRAIGHT LINE ARE EASY TARGETS? Right?

 

 

100% right.

 

Don't change anything with the blue line.

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Besides there is such thing as internal test before ST,PT and live version.

 

Thanks for proving my words. :honoring:  internal test is still test server :P

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Border humpers everywhere.

Perverts.

Bluelinephiles.

 

And seriously - they are harder to hit for me than normally moving ships, so i personally would be really interested in introducing some more punishment, like being unable to shoot while touching the line.

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We can shoot people that don't know the search function of the forums?

 

 

Here's someone who is apparently smarter than you at killing the near easiest targets in game.

I don't exploit this (it happens if you run into it as you have to at times, but I don't want to be in an easy to hit position). You do realise SLOW TARGETS ALONG A STRAIGHT LINE ARE EASY TARGETS? Right?

 

Yeah they are so easy to hit with, when you cannot properly manual aim at them, and have to let your torp bombers to drop torps like 1km away from them, where even JoeTard himself with 1 finger would avoid all of them.... dude seriously.

And if you like we can duel it out in "normal" ships and I will show you what proper border exploiting will do with your "easy to hit" aiming.

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Yeah they are so easy to hit with, when you cannot properly manual aim at them, and have to let your torp bombers to drop torps like 1km away from them, where even JoeTard himself with 1 finger would avoid all of them.... dude seriously.

And if you like we can duel it out in "normal" ships and I will show you what proper border exploiting will do with your "easy to hit" aiming.

 

Dude, I don't have issues with them. If you do, which I cannot imagine, just deal with it. Doesn't seem to impact your performance at all.
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For crying out loud, how many topics do you people need on this non-issue?

 

It seems this is very very difficult for WG to fix, ppl been saying this for months, its still a problem. I dont care if there is a 100 or more post about this its highly relevant
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Dude, I don't have issues with them. If you do, which I cannot imagine, just deal with it. Doesn't seem to impact your performance at all.

 

If you do not have issues with them, well then you seemingly did not stumbled upon a player who knows how to PROPERLY abuse the border. Yes there are those which try to abuse it and fail in that, and then there are those which excel in that. And seriously how can you even deny that it is a major problem for CV players is beyond my imagination.
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If you do not have issues with them, well then you seemingly did not stumbled upon a player who knows how to PROPERLY abuse the border. Yes there are those which try to abuse it and fail in that, and then there are those which excel in that. And seriously how can you even deny that it is a major problem for CV players is beyond my imagination.

 

Because I expect them to border hug and they expect me to use normal lead.

 

It seems this is very very difficult for WG to fix, ppl been saying this for months, its still a problem. I dont care if there is a 100 or more post about this its highly relevant

 

Then use the bazilion previous topics so it becomes huge, rather than making a bazilion small topics that breach forum rules.

 

 

 

Sidenote: I don't get why you even try to engage a fight with a border hugger if you suck at aiming for them. Force them into other positions or first get into other positions, like forcing them to go to cap zones to defend. See how much that border hugging helps them then. I mean come on, they're easy targets, they move in a straight line. Sure, they rotate. So what? Other targets do too and then you have to read in three dimensions at the same rate of turning. It only LOOKS like they turn faster, because they're pivoting on a line, but they're actually easier targets to aim for mathematically.

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If you do not have issues with them, well then you seemingly did not stumbled upon a player who knows how to PROPERLY abuse the border. Yes there are those which try to abuse it and fail in that, and then there are those which excel in that. And seriously how can you even deny that it is a major problem for CV players is beyond my imagination.

 

Or maybe the CV's could just attack from outside the border, and make it easier for themself to hit the border surfer?

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But okay, doing so, that would actually require the CV captain to know what he's doing, no click-and-forget doing so! :ohmy:

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It seems this is very very difficult for WG to fix,

 

Well i was going to say that how didnt you know WG's policies but member since february....

 

TLDR version without the long version: WoT 5 eyars after release still unbalanced and filled with unfixed stuff

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For crying out loud, how many topics do you people need on this non-issue?

 

What a dumb thing to say. I suspect a troll-discussion, but here goes anyway (:hiding:)

 

The question is: If there is so many posts, why is it NOT an issue?

 

Whether YOU can deal with it doesn't have anything to do with it.

Whether it makes aiming etc work in a different way is the issue, as that would constitute an advantage.

And for torpedo planes, it clearly DOES make drops easier to dodge. Also for most people, it becomes MUCH easier to juke return fire, due to changing your throttle = almost impossible to detect.

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