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i was wondering what BBs will WG make for USSR and i gave a look on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:World_War_II_battleships_of_the_Soviet_Union 

so their max guns are 12 inches and only

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Royal_Sovereign_(05)

 HMS Royal Sovereign (05) had 15 inch guns which was british not russian

so what i expect is WG making planed ships like montana and the tier X IJN CV which were never built and i don't have any idea what the outcome will be. What do you think they will do?

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Paper ships, paper ships everywhere.

12" guns yeah....but look at those 17" torps lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_battleship_Petropavlovsk_%281911%29

 

And from what blueprints i can find they all have nice turret layout, with at least 1 if not 2 turrets being a free 360.

 

Look around though :D

http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/ships/

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What do you think they will do?

 

 

 

 

obviously.

 

There is Sovjetsky Soyuz ... but in overall I expect nothing short of armor in the order of several kilometer thickness and made out of paper. Then paper-looking-glass guided straw-guns firing super-sonic armor-pircing spit-wats made of uranium drenched paper ...

 

 

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obviously.

 

There is Sovjetsky Soyuz ... but in overall I expect nothing short of armor in the order of several kilometer thickness and made out of paper. Then paper-looking-glass guided straw-guns firing super-sonic armor-pircing spit-wats made of uranium drenched paper ...

 

 

 

You really were just looking for an excuse to post that pony vid here.
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I remember back in hearts if iron 3 beta there was complaints about navy of USSR being crap and only subs. A dev posted some statistics about their navy recived so little funding so they could only afford to build a fleet of smallest ships. Think they had like 300 subs or so.

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Not sure what they'll do for tier III, but the Ganguts or Imperatritsa Mariyas would suit tier IV, the Imperator Nikolai I could go in tier V and the Izmails could go in tier VI.  Then you could put the Kronshtadts at tier VII and there was an Imperial Russian design with 9 x 3 16" guns that could go in tier VIII but I've no idea what you'd do with IX before hitting the Sovetsky Soyuz at tier X.

 

Of course, out of all these ships, only the Ganguts and Imperatritsa Mariyas were ever completed.

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RU BB are considered  as an idea but its not on the table at this point.

 

Even if it was,it would take at least two years to find the right candidates,model the ships,prepare the stats etc,etc,

 

You will have to wait a long time bro,a line can take about roughly 2 years to create...

 

Same situation is probably true with the RU CV

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i was wondering what BBs will WG make for USSR and i gave a look on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:World_War_II_battleships_of_the_Soviet_Union 

so their max guns are 12 inches and only

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Royal_Sovereign_(05)

 HMS Royal Sovereign (05) had 15 inch guns which was british not russian

so what i expect is WG making planed ships like montana and the tier X IJN CV which were never built and i don't have any idea what the outcome will be. What do you think they will do?

 

Pretty sure soviets had paper ships, with 20" guns, torpedoes, 600m turn radius, and 30+knots speed.

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Not sure what they'll do for tier III, but the Ganguts or Imperatritsa Mariyas would suit tier IV, the Imperator Nikolai I could go in tier V and the Izmails could go in tier VI.  Then you could put the Kronshtadts at tier VII and there was an Imperial Russian design with 9 x 3 16" guns that could go in tier VIII but I've no idea what you'd do with IX before hitting the Sovetsky Soyuz at tier X.

 

Of course, out of all these ships, only the Ganguts and Imperatritsa Mariyas were ever completed.

 

Sovetsky Soyuz isn't a suitable candidate for tier 10. 9 16 inchers would be wholly underpowered compared to Yamato, Montana and H41, and probably also L3 (since it is the presumed TX BB for the British).

She is however a very suitable tier 9, being effectively the same as both Iowa and Izumo in terms of arms and armour.

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9 16" would be fine at tier 10, provided its other stats are competitive. 

As for the Russian tier X BB, Project 24 (basically Project 23 Sovetsky Soyuz modified from war experience, in up to 13 different forms)

The Russians have enough projects for an entire line, if not more. 

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This is the only CCCP interesting BB.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_battleship_Giulio_Cesare

 

PS: despite the Royal Oak had biggest guns, this one have newer, more (10 gun), had double the engine power, was 20-25% faster and, finally, was a real working warship, not an heap of rust...and anyway was far more beautiful.

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This is the only CCCP interesting BB.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_battleship_Giulio_Cesare

 

PS: despite the Royal Oak had biggest guns, this one have newer, more (10 gun), had double the engine power, was 20-25% faster and, finally, was a real working warship, not an heap of rust...and anyway was far more beautiful.

 

Isnt this thread about Russian BBs?

 

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Isnt this thread about Russian BBs?

 

 

it was acquired by Russia in 1949 not a native ussr bb 

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To be honest USSR is country i am LEAST interested in terms of naval warfare and by it coming before British,Italian and french..i will refrain from saying anything but i guess they should have some interesting paper or dreams ships for their "very grand soviet fleet"...probably... -.-.

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Isnt this thread about Russian BBs?

 

 

Gave to Russia as a war prize, renamed "Novorossiysk", was the most modern battleship they had ever own.

They made also some works on it (Radar and AA) so was a bit different from Giulio Cesare in 1937 version.

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for Russian she's Novorossiysk and the Russian Wiki article is as wide as italian for same ship... :honoring:

 

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA_%28%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%29

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Sovetsky Soyuz isn't a suitable candidate for tier 10. 9 16 inchers would be wholly underpowered compared to Yamato, Montana and H41, and probably also L3 (since it is the presumed TX BB for the British).

She is however a very suitable tier 9, being effectively the same as both Iowa and Izumo in terms of arms and armour.

 

In terms of arms, certainly, but not armour.  Sovetsky Soyuzs would have had protection on a similar scale to the Yamatos - perhaps even more.

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There's a work of fiction by a guy named John Watson, called The Iron Man which describes a made up Soviet Battleship (The Stalin) that would be a good fit for T10 if all else fails

worth a look if you are stuck for a decent holiday read 

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I play victory at sea (with little model ships) and there is a whole soviet fleet. Gangut is an appalling ship but Sovetsky Soyuz is excellent. It's important to have Russia in the game given the player base, but I too want to see Germany, RN and Italy more than anything.

 

France would be fun too.

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-snip snip-

 

France would be fun too.

 

France will be the last of the announced nations because of the extra work for the filter that turns white every flag mounted. Italy on the other hand, will introduce intersting gameplay with the racial ability of adding points to the opposite team when capping.

 

 

[No offense intended please, I'm from one of those 2 countries, just joking with some established Internet memes]

 

 

 

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