simonmd Players 801 posts 1,673 battles Report post #26 Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Ranked battles are boring when you're trying to face off to this machinegun ship. Oh wait, you wont nerf, because they paid. I have no clue why you lot thought it was fair to mark this guy down -15 points because of this. I agree with him and posted this thread just today as well before even seeing this one, http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/30813-i-thought-short-range-bb-guns-had-been-buffed/ My FULL HEALTH New Mexico was literally taken apart by an Atlanta with half health. It's rate of fire was just a constant stream of HE and there was no way I could counter it, coupled to the fact that short range BB guns are STILL almost useless (I managed 3 hits out of 3 full 12 shell salvos) and the Atlanta is a nasty thing to get in range of. Before you go on about "what didnt you stay out of range?" , remember that most USA BBs can barely do 20 kts, there is no way to outrun a cruiser if they are determined and especially if they use islands for cover before getting into range. I should add that my original thread wasnt about the Atlanta being OP, it was about BBs guns being rubbish, however, this did demonstrate just how powerful the Atlanta can be, despite being fragile AND the damn thing had torps too! Edited September 17, 2015 by simonmd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoidFile ∞ Players 569 posts 12,052 battles Report post #27 Posted September 17, 2015 I have no clue why you lot thought it was fair to mark this guy down -15 points because of this. I agree with him and posted this thread just today as well before even seeing this one, http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/30813-i-thought-short-range-bb-guns-had-been-buffed/ My FULL HEALTH New Mexico was literally taken apart by an Atlanta with half health. It's rate of fire was just a constant stream of HE and there was no way I could counter it, coupled to the fact that short range BB guns are STILL almost useless (I managed 3 hits out of 3 full 12 shell salvos) and the Atlanta is a nasty thing to get in range of. Before you go on about "what didnt you stay out of range?" , remember that most USA BBs can barely do 20 kts, there is no way to outrun a cruiser if they are determined and especially if they use islands for cover before getting into range. I should add that my original thread wasnt about the Atlanta being OP, it was about BBs guns being rubbish, however, this did demonstrate just how powerful the Atlanta can be, despite being fragile AND the damn thing had torps too! So you are saying, that for that one game in which the Atlanta player did not just got insta-popped or turned into a houseboat (because all his turrets are gone) he deservers a nerf? Please. Threat her like a DD If she is gets so close that she can harm you, or you can't hit her. It's your own fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain_T_Hardy Players 42 posts 5,437 battles Report post #28 Posted September 17, 2015 Atlanta is a dd destroyer, The only bad thing about it is its slow for such a class, speed should be at least the same as the Phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,935 battles Report post #29 Posted September 17, 2015 Every time I've encountered an Atlanta in my Cleveland I have done more damage to it than it has to me by a ratio of something like 2:1. That being said I have had great games in my Atlanta as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #30 Posted September 17, 2015 I have an Atlanta. I don't take her out much. If I'm in a bb I focus them. They are soooo squishy. Just stay out of its short range and annihilate it. Even a Cleveland can citadel her with ease. She's just a big fat dd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DumbleDerp Beta Tester 659 posts Report post #31 Posted September 17, 2015 I'd like to say something but he'll throw his toys out of the pram again and go looking for all my threads and start calling me a troll again Seriously how negative does his rep need to be before he gets banned? Collecting them it seems. Strange. As for the Atlanta, yes she's a crazy ship with buzzsaw guns, but you only have to look at them for them to be destroyed. She's more of an excellent AA than brawler/shock attacker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BEACH] Unknown_Lifeform Beta Tester 272 posts 8,450 battles Report post #32 Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) I have no clue why you lot thought it was fair to mark this guy down -15 points because of this. Partly because his post is ill informed and not constructive. Anyone who has actually tried to play an Atlanta will know that whilst its rate of fire is indeed to be feared it also has an appallingly short range, slow shell velocity and is extremely fragile. That all makes the Atlanta very situational and not at all OP - you have to get in close to use the guns (and usually way ahead of everyone else on your team who is camping back and firing from longer range) but getting in close means exposing yourself. Whilst the Atlanta can dish it out it really can't take it - and any enemy spotting an Atlanta in effective range will make you their number one priority. Its fairly typical that people who only experience something from the receiving end will see only the obvious strengths (in this case the ridiculous rate of fire) and not appreciate its weaknesses (like how a battleship can take off almost all your health in a single salvo). However, I suspect the main reason for the neg rep bombardment is the OP's reputation on the forums preceding him. Edited September 17, 2015 by Unknown_Lifeform Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LMN118 Players 243 posts Report post #33 Posted September 18, 2015 It does have a concealment around the same as its range though. like a lot of fragile ships or ships with low range (Destroyers. Kawachi etc). Pro Vs Cons should decide it: Pros: High rate of fire Good traverse rate Good AA coverage High concealment (matches range of main battery) Torpedoes Cons: Low damage per shot HE only Very high trajectory of main battery shells makes leading targets a little more difficult No citadel armour, so prone to any AP rounds Good change of a magazine detonation Loses turrets very easily Slow rudder shift I like it, not because it is over powered but because you have to use different tactics with it. Somebody mentioned earlier about it killing a full health New Mexico, that's really their fault for letting one get close, you have around 11km to take one out and if you let it in torpedo range well the fault is yours and a destroyer could just as easily have killed you.. It takes a lot of hits to damage Battleships in fact for the most part it feels like you are tickling them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger_Happy_Dad Beta Tester 6,753 posts 7,907 battles Report post #34 Posted September 18, 2015 ..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[F_D] Adwaenyth Alpha Tester 1,194 posts 6,192 battles Report post #35 Posted September 18, 2015 Sorry: Maybe tomorrow in your next whine thread. Don't give him neg reps. That's just what he wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_SKR_] badebier2 Beta Tester 195 posts 8,754 battles Report post #36 Posted September 18, 2015 Ranked battles are boring when you're trying to face off to this machinegun ship. Oh wait, you wont nerf, because they paid. what about the Sims? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomerell Beta Tester 112 posts 311 battles Report post #37 Posted September 18, 2015 Ranked battles are boring when you're trying to face off to this machinegun ship. Oh wait, you wont nerf, because they paid. You have started to repeat your self here. Always something is op and need to be nerfed, because you cannot tolerate it... Have you ever considered it could be LTP issue??? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_x_Acheron_x_ Players 484 posts 6,096 battles Report post #38 Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) -27. lol. it's amazing how much 2 lines can do. You just let the ball start rolling and this forum takes care of the rest. Edited September 18, 2015 by _x_Acheron_x_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
destructo Beta Tester 25 posts Report post #39 Posted September 18, 2015 clearly you haven't tried the Atlanta yourself - range is crap, so you're dead before you know it. if the enemies can't hit - then yes, it's very effective at torching ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites