[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #26 Posted September 24, 2015 Nope. Hatsuharu and Mutsuki.. and all the 6100mm torps have the same reaction time around 12 seconds. The faster they go the less stealthy the get. Mutsuki has the worse torps by far of course.. they are too slow and don't do that much of a damage. Even USN DDs get higher damage than that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAI] Nagine Beta Tester 680 posts 3,140 battles Report post #27 Posted September 24, 2015 A few wins and up to rank 21 or so. I even got top points in the last game. Wins came to an end when I played rubbish on a CV game. Again, IF I had a choice I reckon I would pick Hatsuhara no doubt. But I dont.... You have rank 20 captain (=stealth skill) and still complaining?! Blasphemy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akula971 Beta Tester 1,059 posts 14,810 battles Report post #28 Posted September 24, 2015 You have rank 20 captain (=stealth skill) and still complaining?! Blasphemy! I think he means rank 20 of the "ranked" battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAI] Nagine Beta Tester 680 posts 3,140 battles Report post #29 Posted September 24, 2015 I think he means rank 20 of the "ranked" battles. Oh, in that case I would avoid grinding Mutsuki in ranked battles altogether. The only thing you can do well with it is to cap. However, you need team support for that, which is very unreliable thing and thus annoying. Plus, you get no exp for capping. I had fun with Mutsuki in random battles, but horrible experience in ranked ones (strangely, an opposite experience was with Sims). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #30 Posted September 24, 2015 Takeda92, on 24 September 2015 - 03:32 AM, said: Nope. Hatsuharu and Mutsuki.. and all the 6100mm torps have the same reaction time around 12 seconds. What I meant was that the upgraded torps (the faster ones) actually had a longer reaction time than thr slow ones, if my memory serves me right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #31 Posted September 24, 2015 What I meant was that the upgraded torps (the faster ones) actually had a longer reaction time than thr slow ones, if my memory serves me right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #32 Posted September 24, 2015 I stand corrected Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VonVolks Beta Tester 372 posts 820 battles Report post #33 Posted September 24, 2015 Just had a great Mutsuki ranked win today. I sank 2 BBs and 2 CAs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAI] Nagine Beta Tester 680 posts 3,140 battles Report post #34 Posted September 25, 2015 Just had a great Mutsuki ranked win today. I sank 2 BBs and 2 CAs! I guess enemy team was in awe Congratz on great game! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CSN] Mikhail800 Weekend Tester 1,332 posts 21,503 battles Report post #35 Posted December 8, 2015 Anybody done Ranked battles to Rank number 1 only with DD? BB and CA not good for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #36 Posted December 8, 2015 Oh, in that case I would avoid grinding Mutsuki in ranked battles altogether. The only thing you can do well with it is to cap. However, you need team support for that, which is very unreliable thing and thus annoying. Plus, you get no exp for capping. I had fun with Mutsuki in random battles, but horrible experience in ranked ones (strangely, an opposite experience was with Sims). Only thanks to Mutsuki I pretty much sailed easily to R10. On minimum 4 matches I carried the whole team and sunk half of enemy ships. My food were mostly battleships. Once you take them out, the rest of the team has less problems with winning. In Random, and much more in Ranked I find her excellent. Once you know your limitations and advantages she is a killer DD for sinking BBs. Mastering Mutsuki means learning and anticipating ship and fleet movements. Her torpedo speed isn't a problem. Two days ago I sunk a Kiev (lucky hit, but if you know what you are doing anything can happen). After reaching R10 I decided on trying out CA for T7-8 battles which was a huge mistake since DDs and BBs are the deciding factor in Ranked, by far. My WR dropped from 70% to about 50%. I'll have to get Hatsuharu before proceeding any further in Ranked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EsaTuunanen Beta Tester 3,552 posts 8,863 battles Report post #37 Posted December 8, 2015 If you care about both winning and stats, and you don't want to depend on your team, then don't play DDs! Actually DD's stealth and speed makes it the least team (in)competence dependant ship. Without at least DDs scouting in front BB becomes torpedo attack magnet and without cruisers they loose to enemy formation of BBs and cruisers.And cruisers just can't take BB gun salvoes and need BBs to give enemy bigger targets to shoot at. Only thanks to Mutsuki I pretty much sailed easily to R10. On minimum 4 matches I carried the whole team and sunk half of enemy ships. My food were mostly battleships. Once you take them out, the rest of the team has less problems with winning. In Random, and much more in Ranked I find her excellent. Once you know your limitations and advantages she is a killer DD for sinking BBs. Now that tells lot about skill of average DD players not doing their job in scouting/protecting their team from surprises. While best torpedo boats IJN DDs are much of a one trick ponies if enemy team plays properly with DDs scouting and others not sailing in straight line from one end of the map to another. In that situation you need to be able to hurt any type ship with guns.... Including cruisers either with long range bombardment from 10+ km range allowing dodging of lots of incoming fire, or in closer range doing damage fast with citadel hits. Like in this match of !&?@#!#%&! pisspoor team of !&?@#!#%&!. (how can anyone have 3k average damage in Minekaze?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurbain Players 1,976 posts 2,773 battles Report post #38 Posted December 8, 2015 (how can anyone have 3k average damage in Minekaze?) That 3K average damage Minekaze player really seems to have left an impression on you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #39 Posted December 9, 2015 Anybody done Ranked battles to Rank number 1 only with DD? BB and CA not good for me. Up to rank 5 from 18 playing DDs exclusively so far. 65 battles and a 69% win rate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CSN] Mikhail800 Weekend Tester 1,332 posts 21,503 battles Report post #40 Posted December 9, 2015 Up to rank 5 from 18 playing DDs exclusively so far. 65 battles and a 69% win rate. TY for answer. I try the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,105 battles Report post #41 Posted December 9, 2015 Up to rank 5 from 18 playing DDs exclusively so far. 65 battles and a 69% win rate. Reached rank 10 sailing DD exclusively too. Seems to work the best for me (teams are sh*t for protecting BBs below rank 10). Didnt try > rank 10 as I'm away from home for some time, but Win rate is something like 59% below 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EsaTuunanen Beta Tester 3,552 posts 8,863 battles Report post #42 Posted December 9, 2015 That 3K average damage Minekaze player really seems to have left an impression on you. Everyone including me makes (more or less stupid) mistakes once in a while, like forgetting some aspect/checking something and getting then surprised by torps or some cruiser. But when someone has mighty 88k total damage in 27 Minekaze matches that tells he wouldn't qualify even for captaincy of child's bark boat! (33% victories, 2 sinked ships, 1 survived match) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artur19441944 Players 1 post Report post #43 Posted December 10, 2015 Anybody done Ranked battles to Rank number 1 only with DD? BB and CA not good for me. Yes, its made Kluszkov, plays only DD, he made this like first in this season on Blyskawica. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TMCB] green1111 Alpha Tester 257 posts Report post #44 Posted December 10, 2015 Yes, it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_FTD_ ∞ Players 908 posts 10,097 battles Report post #45 Posted December 14, 2015 Made it to rank 1 with DDs only from rank 10 onwards, was pretty easy tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites