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Ranked games and DDs

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Nope. Hatsuharu and Mutsuki.. and all the 6100mm torps have the same reaction time around 12 seconds. The faster they go the less stealthy the get.

 

Mutsuki has the worse torps by far of course.. they are too slow and don't do that much of a damage. Even USN DDs get higher damage than that!

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A few wins and up to rank 21 or so. I even got top points in the last game. Wins came to an end when I played rubbish on a CV game.

 

Again, IF I had a choice I reckon I would pick Hatsuhara no doubt. But I dont....

 

You have rank 20 captain (=stealth skill) and still complaining?! Blasphemy! :)

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You have rank 20 captain (=stealth skill) and still complaining?! Blasphemy! :)

 

I think he means rank 20 of the "ranked" battles.

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I think he means rank 20 of the "ranked" battles.

 

Oh, in that case I would avoid grinding Mutsuki in ranked battles altogether. The only thing you can do well with it is to cap. However, you need team support for that, which is very unreliable thing and thus annoying. Plus, you get no exp for capping. I had fun with Mutsuki in random battles, but horrible experience in ranked ones (strangely, an opposite experience was with Sims).

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View PostTakeda92, on 24 September 2015 - 03:32 AM, said:

Nope. Hatsuharu and Mutsuki.. and all the 6100mm torps have the same reaction time around 12 seconds.

 

What I meant was that the upgraded torps (the faster ones) actually had a longer reaction time than thr slow ones, if my memory serves me right. 

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What I meant was that the upgraded torps (the faster ones) actually had a longer reaction time than thr slow ones, if my memory serves me right. 

 

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Just had a great Mutsuki ranked win today. I sank 2 BBs and 2 CAs!

 

I guess enemy team was in awe :)  Congratz on great game!

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Oh, in that case I would avoid grinding Mutsuki in ranked battles altogether. The only thing you can do well with it is to cap. However, you need team support for that, which is very unreliable thing and thus annoying. Plus, you get no exp for capping. I had fun with Mutsuki in random battles, but horrible experience in ranked ones (strangely, an opposite experience was with Sims).

 

Only thanks to Mutsuki I pretty much sailed easily to R10. On minimum 4 matches I carried the whole team and sunk half of enemy ships. My food were mostly battleships. Once you take them out, the rest of the team has less problems with winning. In Random, and much more in Ranked I find her excellent. Once you know your limitations and advantages she is a killer DD for sinking BBs. Mastering Mutsuki means learning and anticipating ship and fleet movements. Her torpedo speed isn't a problem. Two days ago I sunk a Kiev (lucky hit, but if you know what you are doing anything can happen).

 

After reaching R10 I decided on trying out CA for T7-8 battles which was a huge mistake since DDs and BBs are the deciding factor in Ranked, by far. My WR dropped from 70% to about 50%. I'll have to get Hatsuharu before proceeding any further in Ranked.

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If you care about both winning and stats, and you don't want to depend on your team, then don't play DDs!

Actually DD's stealth and speed makes it the least team (in)competence dependant ship.

Without at least DDs scouting in front BB becomes torpedo attack magnet and without cruisers they loose to enemy formation of BBs and cruisers.

And cruisers just can't take BB gun salvoes and need BBs to give enemy bigger targets to shoot at.

 

 

 

Only thanks to Mutsuki I pretty much sailed easily to R10. On minimum 4 matches I carried the whole team and sunk half of enemy ships. My food were mostly battleships. Once you take them out, the rest of the team has less problems with winning. In Random, and much more in Ranked I find her excellent. Once you know your limitations and advantages she is a killer DD for sinking BBs.

Now that tells lot about skill of average DD players not doing their job in scouting/protecting their team from surprises.

 

While best torpedo boats IJN DDs are much of a one trick ponies if enemy team plays properly with DDs scouting and others not sailing in straight line from one end of the map to another.

 

In that situation you need to be able to hurt any type ship with guns....

Including cruisers either with long range bombardment from 10+ km range allowing dodging of lots of incoming fire, or in closer range doing damage fast with citadel hits.

Like in this match of !&?@#!#%&! pisspoor team of !&?@#!#%&!.

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(how can anyone have 3k average damage in Minekaze?)

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(how can anyone have 3k average damage in Minekaze?)

 

That 3K average damage Minekaze player really seems to have left an impression on you. :P

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Anybody done Ranked battles to Rank number 1 only with DD?

BB and CA not good for me.

 

Up to rank 5 from 18 playing DDs exclusively so far. 65 battles and a 69% win rate.
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Up to rank 5 from 18 playing DDs exclusively so far. 65 battles and a 69% win rate.

 

TY for answer. I try the same :)

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Up to rank 5 from 18 playing DDs exclusively so far. 65 battles and a 69% win rate.

 

Reached rank 10 sailing DD exclusively too. Seems to work the best for me (teams are sh*t for protecting BBs below rank 10).

Didnt try > rank 10 as I'm away from home for some time, but Win rate is something like 59% below 10.

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That 3K average damage Minekaze player really seems to have left an impression on you. :P

Everyone including me makes (more or less stupid) mistakes once in a while, like forgetting some aspect/checking something and getting then surprised by torps or some cruiser.

But when someone has mighty 88k total damage in 27 Minekaze matches that tells he wouldn't qualify even for captaincy of child's bark boat!

(33% victories, 2 sinked ships, 1 survived match)

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