___Canaris___ Beta Tester 163 posts 1,690 battles Report post #101 Posted September 17, 2015 I'm not angry WG-EU, just very disappointed, you should be ashamed if this is your launch day special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LENS] wh4t Beta Tester 18 posts 7,062 battles Report post #102 Posted September 17, 2015 I think this topic deserves to be glued... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Kreol1q1q Beta Tester 78 posts 6,443 battles Report post #103 Posted September 17, 2015 Yes, well, this is just a bit sad for a release, I expected more. More as in a meaningful premium shop offer. Well, I guess it's just that we aren't all living in Russia. And people say Putin ruling Europe would be bad.... Think of all the great premium shop offers we'd have then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[20201] MicroWarp Players 21 posts 4,302 battles Report post #104 Posted September 17, 2015 Just to point out, RU server has Tirpitz with dock slot for £32. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Kreol1q1q Beta Tester 78 posts 6,443 battles Report post #105 Posted September 17, 2015 Yes, an offer superior to both the first "exclusive" EU Tirpitz and the current NA one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[0031] Frank_F_B [0031] Beta Tester 359 posts Report post #106 Posted September 17, 2015 Look at them EU idiots they will buy anything... your shitting me! Nope watch me put a crap deal in the shop and watch it sell. Now lots of us seen the deal for what it is. But i wonder how many have sold! +1 I was out of goodies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HerrMansen Beta Tester 46 posts 246 battles Report post #107 Posted September 17, 2015 Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package. The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player. The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. You can call it what you want - It's still a scam. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #108 Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package. The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player. The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. Seriously you are saying that....... no we haven't released the game with a fairly weak "offer" We have released it without ANYTHING Honestly if you think about it that ix much worse, Edited September 17, 2015 by BlueMoon51 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilentHitm4n Players 3 posts 1,778 battles Report post #109 Posted September 17, 2015 I don't post in the forums but will today. This stinks. I'll be thinking hard about taking my contribution to the WG staff salaries elsewhere. That is all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #110 Posted September 17, 2015 Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package. The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player. The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. So is this the only post from a WG employee? In the whole release day and after all that has been written? I'm puzzled .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VMEF] Wischmob_von_Eimer Beta Tester 1,292 posts 10,023 battles Report post #111 Posted September 18, 2015 No, we had some more posts by WG Employees in the News Section regarding the streaming event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xCaptainObviousx Weekend Tester 1,244 posts Report post #112 Posted September 18, 2015 So is this the only post from a WG employee? In the whole release day and after all that has been written? I'm puzzled .... Let's just say that Conway's post came to be because someone asked him to try to explain what was going on. Otherwise there wouldn't have been any WG post at all in this part of the forums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VMEF] Wischmob_von_Eimer Beta Tester 1,292 posts 10,023 battles Report post #113 Posted September 18, 2015 Let's just say that Conway's post came to be because someone asked him to try to explain what was going on. Otherwise there wouldn't have been any WG post at all in this part of the forums. There where also people asking why there is a news article out there that tells us the complete opposite of what he told us. I realy would like someone from the marketing department to answer that screwup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Battledragon Beta Tester 615 posts 1,251 battles Report post #114 Posted September 18, 2015 Wargaming EU's customer service policy, in a nutshell. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LMN118 Players 243 posts Report post #115 Posted September 18, 2015 Not really angry, but certainly feel disappointed. And this reply: Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package. The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player. The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. Is either a lie or incompetence but certainly condescending. WoT EU community management isn't the best but at least they make an effort. I suppose the main gripe is, after releasing three games on the same platform you would think they would have a clue how to do things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] MrConway WG Staff, Alpha Tester 3,411 posts 4,389 battles Report post #116 Posted September 18, 2015 Not really angry, but certainly feel disappointed. And this reply: Is either a lie or incompetence but certainly condescending. WoT EU community management isn't the best but at least they make an effort. I suppose the main gripe is, after releasing three games on the same platform you would think they would have a clue how to do things. I am sorry, I guess I should have chosen my words more carefully, I wasn't aware of the news article as it had not yet been released, mea culpa. As I said this offer was aimed at new players starting out, not necessarily at our beta veterans. Rest assured that there will be plenty of offers in the upcoming weeks, and I will forward the feedback we have received to the powers that be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SWAG_] Finguz Beta Tester 40 posts Report post #117 Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) The most amusing thing, is that despite all of this "fail" ( for want of a better word ), people queue up to pay far too much ( in my opinion anyway - I buy full games for less than the Tirpitz for instance ) for virtual ships. I have a question for those who are "disappointed" and otherwise complaining, if WG was your company would you change if people kept throwing money at you? I didn't think so. Edit: It's like the inability to reverse the mouse Y axis in the control setup. People have been asking for this simple option for months and months. So far, not even a hint of a reply has been heard. WG's stance would seem to be "Meh, we have money coming in, let them ask". Edited September 18, 2015 by Finguz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_UKW_] TycBrum Players 387 posts 8,680 battles Report post #118 Posted September 18, 2015 I am sorry, I guess I should have chosen my words more carefully, I wasn't aware of the news article as it had not yet been released, mea culpa. As I said this offer was aimed at new players starting out, not necessarily at our beta veterans. Rest assured that there will be plenty of offers in the upcoming weeks, and I will forward the feedback we have received to the powers that be. can i just point out that "plenty of offers in the upcoming weeks" is not the same as "plenty of offers on release day" like the vast majority of players were expecting! There should be several offers for both new and old players as to not segregate or discriminate against either, which is what is / has happened! This is why i think the vast majority are unhappy! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,939 battles Report post #119 Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) You would have thought lessons learned by WG for WoT would have spilled over here in WoWS. Guess the lesson was never learned or perhaps they felt they never did anything wrong? Pity. The whole launch day fiasco was probably one of the lowest points in my WG experience. Can it get lower than this? I sincerely hope not but we shouldn't be surprised when it does. Edited September 18, 2015 by jinx_uk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OMPG] Hauptbahnhof Beta Tester 1,198 posts 5,570 battles Report post #120 Posted September 18, 2015 The most amusing thing, is that despite all of this "fail" ( for want of a better word ), people queue up to pay far too much ( in my opinion anyway - I buy full games for less than the Tirpitz for instance ) for virtual ships. I have a question for those who are "disappointed" and otherwise complaining, if WG was your company would you change if people kept throwing money at you? I didn't think so. ... WG's stance would seem to be "Meh, we have money coming in, let them ask". They will have to change and soon. War thunder naval forces is comming and will crush this game as hard as Warthunder crushed WoWarplanes otherwise... Cashgrab only works when there is no competitor, and wargaming knows this, so it almost seems like they already abandoned this as a long term investment and rushed the beta and release with the sole purpose of getting as much money as possible before War thunder naval forces hits. Everyone that want just a tad of realism instead of Yamato and Iowa fighting together in the arctic-arcade will literally jump ship at first opportunity, especially the way WG treats customers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BSB] Sake78 Players 546 posts Report post #121 Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Everyone that want just a tad of realism instead of Yamato and Iowa fighting together in the artic-arcade will literally jump ship at first opportunity, especially the way WG treats customers. Just like the tank crowd jumped ship, right? And because Ga.. treats its customers better? That ship has long sailed and about to sink. And the other competitor is in no hurry to make ships. Edited September 18, 2015 by Sake78 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HerrMansen Beta Tester 46 posts 246 battles Report post #122 Posted September 18, 2015 The most amusing thing, is that despite all of this "fail" ( for want of a better word ), people queue up to pay far too much ( in my opinion anyway - I buy full games for less than the Tirpitz for instance ) for virtual ships. I have a question for those who are "disappointed" and otherwise complaining, if WG was your company would you change if people kept throwing money at you? I didn't think so. Edit: It's like the inability to reverse the mouse Y axis in the control setup. People have been asking for this simple option for months and months. So far, not even a hint of a reply has been heard. WG's stance would seem to be "Meh, we have money coming in, let them ask". You're making assumptions, your facts can't clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #123 Posted September 18, 2015 The most amusing thing, is that despite all of this "fail" ( for want of a better word ), people queue up to pay far too much ( in my opinion anyway - I buy full games for less than the Tirpitz for instance ) for virtual ships. I have a question for those who are "disappointed" and otherwise complaining, if WG was your company would you change if people kept throwing money at you? I didn't think so. Edit: It's like the inability to reverse the mouse Y axis in the control setup. People have been asking for this simple option for months and months. So far, not even a hint of a reply has been heard. WG's stance would seem to be "Meh, we have money coming in, let them ask". Yes I certainly would. This game has a lot of development costs, so you would like people playing. One mayor thing to do so is keep players happy. For that you must live up to players expectations (a litle bit). It is a pitty but WG has a bad record. Dicounts don't have to be bad. For example if they had a sale on the warspite for 10 % discount I would buy it (and many other players too). At full price I wouldn't buy it. So the chance is quite large that with a discount they will have more turnover as without the discount. They will have to change and soon. War thunder naval forces is comming and will crush this game as hard as Warthunder crushed WoWarplanes otherwise... Cashgrab only works when there is no competitor, and wargaming knows this, so it almost seems like they already abandoned this as a long term investment and rushed the beta and release with the sole purpose of getting as much money as possible before War thunder naval forces hits. I realy don't think that they have abandoned the project. I think they rushed because they wanted to be the first to have a released "modern" navy game. Most of the time the first one will have the biggest marketshare in future. I think they just didn't think about the release enough. A missed chance ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bikes02 Beta Tester 152 posts 2,302 battles Report post #124 Posted September 18, 2015 Rest assured that there will be plenty of offers in the upcoming weeks, and I will forward the feedback we have received to the powers that be. Good to know....I also know that if I was the 'the powers that be' I would fire every single member of EU staff that had anything to do with the launch. The way that us EU players have been treated is nothing short of despicable! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
___Canaris___ Beta Tester 163 posts 1,690 battles Report post #125 Posted September 18, 2015 I am sorry, I guess I should have chosen my words more carefully, I wasn't aware of the news article as it had not yet been released, mea culpa. As I said this offer was aimed at new players starting out, not necessarily at our beta veterans. Rest assured that there will be plenty of offers in the upcoming weeks, and I will forward the feedback we have received to the powers that be. So all the people who've been paying your salary and supporting WoWS from the start weren't even considered on your 'launch day'.... seriously you all need to have a major rethink on priorities. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites