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Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package.

 

The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player.

 

The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. :hiding:

 

Thumbs up for having the balls to comment on it

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This is illegal under EU consumer laws false use of "limited offers" and or "special offers" are not allowed under EU consumer laws.

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/consumer-marketing/unfair-trade/unfair-practices/is-it-fair/blacklist/index_en.htm

 

 

Thats not the case. Limitd or special offer only concernes the time an item is on sale. In this case this offer will end, so its not a false special offer.
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Good job though,whoever thought that it is okay to risk creating a crapstorm and possibly violating EULA for a 1 DAMN EURO is clearly a genious...

 

This is not you fault of course Conway,you are just the messenger...

 

Edit:  Checked EULA section,its legal

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so we just change the game from 0.40 ,would it not been easy to say it not a release but a patch day to 0.50 and save all the crap on the forum lol

 

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Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package.

 

The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player.

 

The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. :hiding:

 

So are you saying then that this offer isn't even related to the launch?  In which case this whole launch day has become more of a damp squib than it was prior to this information.  Nobody wants to shoot the messenger and as has already been said nobody will lay this farce at your door, but I hope in your role that you are feeding back to whoever organised this stultifying non-promotion event that they have dropped the ball and left their customers, particularly in the EU, with a feeling of disillusionment and disappointment and a concern that incompetents are running the show.
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Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package.

 

The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player.

 

The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. :hiding:

 

Any clue when we "EU" will get our super discounts etc... like on RU premium store?

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Any clue when we "EU" will get our super discounts etc... like on RU premium store?

 

I don't see any super discounts on the RU store.

Nothing worth any kind of hype, at least.

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This thread turns more into a "we didnt get anything for launch thread" than a "this deals is a few cents more expensive than buying it seperatly thread"

 

Lets just all calm down guys

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Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package.

 

The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player.

 

The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. :hiding:

 

and given that there's no actual offer to be had, new players are far better off simply buying €10 worth of doubloons and splitting it between premium and port slots as necessary. Of course, they'd really be best off just buying a month of premium, but let's not pretend here that the point was anything other than exploiting uninformed newbies with loose wallets.
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Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package.

 

The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player.

 

The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. :hiding:

 

 

 

Please enlighten us to what is the "Super special Release package" ?

 

At least one person at WG could at least tell you ????

 

Maybe a post on the forum to say this or that will be available!

 

 

Many of us tried to recruit other players to the game and to be honest, I can not recommend anything at present!

 

I am hoping that maybe there will be sales over the weekend!

I am hoping that Serb happens to read the forum as it appears that no one can be arsed to tell him what is going on!

 

 

Imagine you run a successful company, you stick some guys in marketing and they have infomation that a ton of people want to give you money for stuff you can actually supply! These monkeys then ignore all the metrics and do jack crap with sugar on!

 

 

I hope, the Serb has a quiet chat with what ever tool dreamt up the lack of special offers and sacks him on the spot!

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I don't think we'll get any super special launch packages yet. I'm willing to bet that those will come as "Release packages" once both the KM and RN are in the game (can't market a naval warfare game to europeans if there are no european content yet)

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Good job though,whoever thought that it is okay to risk creating a crapstorm and possibly violating EULA for a 1 DAMN EURO is clearly a genious...

 

This is not you fault of course Conway,you are just the messenger...

 

Edit:  Checked EULA section,its legal

and in the past messengers were killed when emperors want like what they said :D * joke alert "

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Yeah, that's the Russian shop... Since the economy of Russia virtually collapsed, and the value of the paper the Ruble is printed on is higher than the face value, 44€ is for them still a very steep price.

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Why? I got the ship, slot and 2 premium months, which I needed anyway. Rather one month and the gold to buy me 10 port slots when they`ll come on sale. That also concludes my spending outside the premium account all the way to 2016, when RN will make an appearance and ONLY if HMS Hood will be a premium and ONLY if I feel like buying it instead of getting the inevitable regular ship in the tech tree :)

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Why? I got the ship, slot and 2 premium months, which I needed anyway. Rather one month and the gold to buy me 10 port slots when they`ll come on sale. That also concludes my spending outside the premium account all the way to 2016, when RN will make an appearance and ONLY if HMS Hood will be a premium and ONLY if I feel like buying it instead of getting the inevitable regular ship in the tech tree :)

 

Choice is always good though. All the way to 2016...you are hopeful :D

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This thread turns more into a "we didnt get anything for launch thread" than a "this deals is a few cents more expensive than buying it seperatly thread"

 

That was kinda the point. A launch "event" is something that should promote the game. Though with a vast playerbase as beta testers you need to do something for them as well, but WG has stated for us it's just business as usual, meaning we get nothing. No special offers, no so called "event"  - nothing. And people being frustrated about that when every other online game does it differently is more than understandable.

 

Hell even I as a game designer am upset, despite knowing the inner workings of companies like WG.

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I played WoT for more than 2 years and never spent a dime. I simply didn't care about tanks much. I played because it was fun.

 

But I do care about ships. I bought the Gremy package to get into CBT and that was money well spent (but to be frank, if I had bought the Yubari or the Sims I'd be pissed). I bought the Italeri-Wargaming Bismarck model.

 

In 2 months I spent more on this game than I ever would have spent on WoT. But I will spend no more as it is becoming blatantly obvious WG treats this as a moneygrab. It is almost like they don't want the game to succeed.

 

First they brought in the policy of limited offer ships to keep them "rare". Yeah, well... That made sense for 3 CBT ships. For Warspite and Tirpitz (and future ships that will suffer this fate) it makes absolutrly no sense, and it did not make them rare at all. You will see a Tirpitz in almost every game in its tier spread. By which definition is that rare?

Do you know which ship is rare? The Aurora. Yeah, the one that is available in the premium shop AND for doubloons since the OBT start. I saw maybe a total of 5 of them since I started playing.

But I digress.

 

What makes this a moneygrab? Those "limited offer" ships. Players can buy them only in the premium shop, so those who stocked up on doubloons to buy ships are screwed.

I'm talking about doubloons, so I can't skip the fact that gold still isn't shared over the "unified" account. For really no good reason at all. Well, I don't accept the moneygrab attempt as a good reason.

 

But what really tipped the scales for me was the Tirpitz bundle. You could only buy it in a (overpriced) bundle with some almost useless stuff (flags) and premium time many players couldn't even use at the time (a lot of people were on a vacation).

 

And now WG gives us this "special" offer. It comes off as a spit in the face. Whoever came up with this offer should get fired.

 

 

 

I'll try to end this post now... WG had a potential regular customer in me for this game, but their behaviour made me firmly decide not to spend any more money unless they give out some really good offers. They really need to stop treating their customers like sh*t.

Also, I can't recommend the game to my friends when the company deals with the players like this.

 

Also, they should bring Warspite and Tirpitz back to shop AND make them buyable with gold. That pisses me off the most even though I didn't seriously intend to buy either. Treating customers like that is just wrong.

 

I usedto frequent WoT forums before (wasn't checking the shop often) and I don't remember any "limited offers" happening there. I know some tanks got removed from the shop, but they were buyable for months before that.

 

 

TLDR; WG, stop treating your customers like this. You are losing them.

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I usedto frequent WoT forums before (wasn't checking the shop often) and I don't remember any "limited offers" happening there. I know some tanks got removed from the shop, but they were buyable for months before that.

 

Yeah. the Ferdinand is being removed but they have put  it up at a slightly cheaper price for 3 months.

 

And I agree with you. This is sabotage style behavior. No way are they being this incompetent without it being planned. Hell open beta had an appropriate level of fanfare with offers and stuff.

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This sucks [edited], i was planning on getting the Tirpitz, but i havent been able to because it was so poorly advertised that it was on sale a little while ago (how many days back?).

I had gotten the impression that they would first put it up for sale with the "full game" release :/

I would have been okay with buying that useless garbage flags along with that ship, but honestly it dosent seem to me that WG are trying to make money when they advertise THIS badly about something so huge.

Really good job wargaming EU... No problem finding things about when what is on sale on RU asian and NA server, but on EU server ? impossible, that is horrific!!

 

and im not not a person that normally write and bad mouth in forums, but this pisses me off !

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Just to calm everyone down: This package is not intended to be a super special release package.

 

The only reason it is marked as special is the fact that it is time limited and the premium shop displays this automatically. It is put up as a starter kit with the most purchased items for a new player.

 

The price difference is due to the premium shop rounding. :hiding:

 

Maybe, but it's still very bad as an offer, and whats even worse, in conjuntion with what the T0byJug wrote below:

 

 

 Many People have been waiting for a sale on port slots for a while.

 

It clearly looks like the pureposeful spit in the face.

 

 

Thumbs up for having the balls to comment on it

:trollface:

 

At least that.
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I bought myself a special offer on beer today. FTW, WoWs!

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