Nagato

[LilJumpa]

I went for secondaries/AA all the way 

[Flavio1997]

me too, those 7.2 kms secondaries are impressively powerfull

[SENAdmiral]

Secondary all day long, and since I got a Trollpitz killed by secondary I just trust the beauty Nagato to deal with anybody fool enough to come near me....

[Gatt]

Secondary all day long, and since I got a Trollpitz killed by secondary I just trust the beauty Nagato to deal with anybody fool enough to come near me....

 

Do you think that the Tirpitz as well should mount the Secondary Battery Modification 2?

[Admiral_noodle]

Hmmm. Just had an awful game in Nagato. Managed to get citadelled by a Colorado at a very hard angle. I thought her armour was good!

[havaduck]

Main batt accuracy module for me.

 

This ships guns do what they want anyway, and the pattern is horrible, might as well hit something with your main guns ...

 

Aiming is completely different from Fuso but nothing a few games cant teach you ...... armor is okish, aside from around the lousy rudder. Without hull upgrade it breaks form (BB) HE hits -> wtf?! With hull upgrade it breaks from penning AP shots (again wtf - citadell ok, but regular pen ... damn IJN paper modules ....)

 

From the 5 BB in the IJN line so far it definately sits at place 3, behind Kongo and Fuso but ahead of Myogi and Kawachi. Rule of thumb: Surviving and fighting not in a cowardly or [edited]sniffing manner will net you 40-50 Shell hits/game. Thats ~ 100 k silver and should be considered average. Every citadell raises this supstancially seeing the huge AP damage. 

 

My best game so far was 42 hits, 5 citas, 4 ships sunk .... 154k dmg so essantially those 5 citas are worth way more than all the regular hits -> So yeah Nagato can work if her guns descide to behave. = 

[Figment]

Yeah... i even dont know what to say about this "ship" called Nagato because if i will be too direct i will get banned...

So lets get this straight - 

1)All BB guns are a joke we all know that some a pure crap like T3 and T4 some are tolerable like Kongo and Fuso can have some bright moments (once with first salvo oneshoted  a cruiser with full HP 23 km away ) but Nagato is just pure torture. Guns are FEW, that reload TOO SLOW and they shoot GOD KNOWS WHERE!!!!! In a few games i have played with this ship i have had more WTF moments then with all previous BBs combined. Missed so many cruisers and even BBs from less then 10 kms - shot is perfectly matched, lands in middle of ship but guess what 1k dmg with 1 shell and rest miss and it happens sooooooooo often!!!!! 

2)Nagato has no armor. NO ARMOR WHATSOEVER!!!! Angle it, maneuver with it, i have tried everything, every salvo is a citadel no matter from where and what angle. Oh and then there are magazine detonations, yeah those nice shots that do 32 - 34K dmg, which i have never scored myself but man O man does Nagato likes to please opponents with those!!!! It sometimes feels like i am on DD!!!!!!!

3)I have read in forums that its a "brawler" , however i am not sure how to brawl with it with its paper armor and super low speed that cant get close to anything!!! And it sure is not a sniper because of guns that clearly were made in China in 1850s...

   So to sum it up - WTF do i DO with this ship???????

 

Sounds like you need to learn about BB positioning and upgrade your secondaries range and accuracy with the modules, get the turning module too.

 

You win:

 

Overall Results
Battles	53
Victories	34 (64%)
Battles survived	24
Damage caused	2,684,588
Warships destroyed	53
Aircraft destroyed	65
Base capture	0
Base defense	62

Average Score per Battle
Experience	1,281.21
Damage caused	50,652.60
Warships destroyed	1.00
Aircraft destroyed	1.23
Main battery hit ratio	23%
Base capture	0.00
Base defense	1.17

Highest Score
Damage caused	126,337
Warships destroyed	5
Aircraft destroyed	6

[Admiral_noodle]

Those stats look like mine for Tirpitz, which I took to immediately. I need to work out how to succeed with Nagato and "play her in"

[Figment]

It's quite similar to the Tirpitz I'd say, just with a bit easier citadel to hit. The main difference is the Tirpitz wants to get close to use 6km torps, I want to get close to use 7km secondaries.

[SENAdmiral]

 

Do you think that the Tirpitz as well should mount the Secondary Battery Modification 2?

 

Cant say, my friend, I cant comment about ships I do not own / sail / know.

[YAK9UTPRO]

every BB in the game is feeling like worse than the previous ship you had because of the upgrades (not sure for the izumo even fully upgraded seems worse than amagi stock)

[Figment]

every BB in the game is feeling like worse than the previous ship you had because of the upgrades (not sure for the izumo even fully upgraded seems worse than amagi stock)

 

It probably has more to do with facing slightly bigger enemies on average, while stock is pretty much even to what you ended with, sometimes with worse range again.

[nikos13ole]

every BB in the game is feeling like worse than the previous ship you had because of the upgrades (not sure for the izumo even fully upgraded seems worse than amagi stock)

 

izumo is just a case off..... a must skip ship cause well reasons by WG...

 

but i agree every new BB needs some time to adjust with the behavior of the ship 

[Vanhal]

 

i bet you will enjoy the glorious Izumo 

 

Now that was harsh. But true

[YAK9UTPRO]

Just no, NO big fat NO. I do not accept this ship its insane to its core. With all that i have written before in last game i put WHOLE SALVO in new mexico from like 3 kms and it all hit AND GUESS WHAT - COMBINED DAMAGE WAS 7K, IT WAS WHOLE SALVO RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF SHIP!!!!!

W                                      T                              F  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If this is what to be expected from this ship while brawling then just f@@k it...

 

fired HE or AP? also where did your shots hit?

[Unintentional_submarine]

Like so many before me, I rather like Nagato. She has those punchy guns, and everything else but the secondaries, is good enough. The secondaries are downright awesome. She feels like a jack of all trades so to speak, but she does that really well. Fuso for instance is awesome at sitting back and throwing huge salvoes at enemies and relying on favourable numbers to achieve big hits. But if she gets close to anything she is made of citadels and is an easy takedown. Nagato? Not so much. She can shoot far, but long range hits are just bonus hits. She excels at shorter ranges, where she can overpower the Colorado with faster rate of fire and more health, New Mex by sheer power, Fuso by being tougher, and she can certainly stand against both North Carolina and Amagi without being a punching bag.

In fact, she is the first battleship I feel that can fight the North Carolina on even terms and not require the enemy to be an utter fool for me to win.

[SENAdmiral]

Like so many before me, I rather like Nagato. She has those punchy guns, and everything else but the secondaries, is good enough. The secondaries are downright awesome. She feels like a jack of all trades so to speak, but she does that really well. Fuso for instance is awesome at sitting back and throwing huge salvoes at enemies and relying on favourable numbers to achieve big hits. But if she gets close to anything she is made of citadels and is an easy takedown. Nagato? Not so much. She can shoot far, but long range hits are just bonus hits. She excels at shorter ranges, where she can overpower the Colorado with faster rate of fire and more health, New Mex by sheer power, Fuso by being tougher, and she can certainly stand against both North Carolina and Amagi without being a punching bag.

In fact, she is the first battleship I feel that can fight the North Carolina on even terms and not require the enemy to be an utter fool for me to win.

 

fully agree, I share all your view - without doubt you know the lady

[Puffadder]

It's always the ship, the team or WG. Never the captain.

 

Some people here told you their opinions and if you looked at thei stats they indirectly showed you what the Nagato is capable of.

 

You still whine and Capslock all over the place so ergo you just want to let off steam and behave like a little kid.

 

 

^ This.

Face the fact that Nagato doesn't suit your playing style - suck it up - grind through and be done with it. Despite 90% of repliers here disagrees with you - you keep on with the NO! posts.

Nagato and you are not a match made in heaven. Case closed.

[Battledragon]

Make the best of your time in the Nagato, it's the last time you see a Japanese battleship with decent armour before the Yamato.  Both Amagi and Izumo are glass cannons, Izumo especially has a terrible weakspot in the citadel of the first turret

[Gatt]

I tried the secondary update (7.2Km, verified on artillery specs in port). I tried with a DD and actually, 140mm and 127mm open up much closer (about 3-4Km).

 

Not at 7Km, not at 6Km. Pretty useless so far. Weird.

[GrumpyWorm]

Moved

[Fonfalks]

Almost every game in this piece of crap "BB" infuriates me more and more. 

Can ANYONE explain to me why WHY do THESE GUNS DO SO LITTLE DAMAGE!!!!! Last game i came across Cleavland - he came out of cliff and there we are sailing 6 kms from each other parallel. Lucky day i think i am about to get some citadels - full salvo in to that HE spaming bastard and guess what 1.2k, 2k. and one 3k shot from whole salvo. HOW CAN IT BE i ask myself but feel consoled by Cleavlands stupidity as he is still sailing parallel to at at same range. SECOND SALVO again - PERFECTLY IN TO THE CLEAVLAND AND AGAIN SAME DAMAGE. Overall i have scooped of some 12k from this crazy Cleavland which is still sailing parallel to me. Now i am shooting third salvo and guess what same damage..... Its like MAGIC, not one shot from 3 perfect salvos has done more then 3k damage. On forth salvo i do get citadel, but at that point hes so low that it doesn't really matter......

I honestly dont know what developers are thinking making such absurdity possible!!!!!

[Exocet6951]

Nagato and no armor in the same sentence...lol

 

The only way a sentence like that could exist is by saying something like "It is false that the Nagato has no armor"

It's a brawler BB, with powerful guns that are made to punch through other BBs. It's certainly not slow, and certainly not paper.

 

You might reconsider your choice of line, tier and play style, as if appears to not be working out. Further tiers after the Nagato won't be easier, quite the opposite.

Perhaps go back a few tiers, like the Kongo and try to get more experience with that.

 

 

Story about trying to citpen a Cleveland

Clevelands have odd citadel placements. You can never reliably citpen them when you're aiming for it, and you at times citpen them while spamming HE at a distance.

[cherry2blost]

Just no, NO big fat NO. I do not accept this ship its insane to its core. With all that i have written before in last game i put WHOLE SALVO in new mexico from like 3 kms and it all hit AND GUESS WHAT - COMBINED DAMAGE WAS 7K, IT WAS WHOLE SALVO RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF SHIP!!!!!

W                                      T                              F  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If this is what to be expected from this ship while brawling then just f@@k it...

 

Yep Fonfalks... She is a terrible ship, worst armour, worst guns and absolutely a terribad ship....

 

 

Maybe as others have stated repeatedly... it could be the Captain? and not the ship at fault here?

 

 

[Maye35]

I guys,

 

Is there a diference between hull B and hull C in therm of armor ? I have now the stock hull that is made of butter (it's a pain really), but i'd like to know if only the AA is upgraded or is there something else ? i want to bring the nagato in ranked games, she fits more my play style than the fuso, so the sooner, the better.