Overpowered torpedo's from invissible destroyers

[Kenliero]

Dem evil Destroyers must of used this technique?

 

[warlock07rox]

 

1. You turn by pressing A or D
2. There's a tier 1 skill called Situational Awareness. Just use your brain and assume there is DD lurking around if you're spotted but there's nobody's visible. Randomly change courses, slow down and start accelerating again etc.
3. If you still can't understand after my greatly simplified explanation, then there's no hope for you.

 

 

1. You turn by pressing A or D
2. There's a tier 1 skill called Situational Awareness. Just use your brain and assume there is DD lurking around if you're spotted but there's nobody's visible. Randomly change courses, slow down and start accelerating again etc.
3. If you still can't understand after my greatly simplified explanation, then there's no hope for you.

 

Ok what direction do I turn seeing people  say sail away from dds? I could turn and be sailing straight into him which isn't what people advise

[Surmaaja]

 

Nice advice but how do you turn when you see the Dd drop torps and turn when you cant see the  Dd? because a lot can drop out of view range being INVISIBLE so you obnly see the torps before they hit

 

You stick with your team, let cruisers and other destroyers spot and drive DDs away. If you are alone in BB vs DD you are dead. When you pass by an island, assume there is DD lurking there and start manouvering your ship so they cant predict your path. You dodge destroyers, and thus pre-emptively dodge torpedoes, not the visible torps themselves.

[N00b32]

 

 

Ok what direction do I turn seeing people  say sail away from dds? I could turn and be sailing straight into him which isn't what people advise

 

Your problem is not the torpedo. Your problem is also not the DD. Your problem is your own fear of unvisible things. And instead of just acting and turning, you make an act of "something invisible is shooting at me" about it. It does not really matter, even if you sail "into" him (however you do that without seeing him and his torps fired at 6 km still need more than 30 secs to hit.)

 

You have to overcome your fear, Period. And best thing to do that, is to understand DDs. 

[Geist_Krieger]

So this is a typical "PEBKAC" situation.

Pro tip: make a pact with the abyss and master the dark arts of pressing A and D once a while... but don't let anyone see you doing this, because it is cheating...

[Vrumugun]

 

 

Ok what direction do I turn seeing people  say sail away from dds? I could turn and be sailing straight into him which isn't what people advise

 

Please try reading, what people write to help you. No need to "sail away". Torps are unguided and relatively slow moving (cca 2x speed of fast ship). If you change your direction or speed randomly when spotted, you are getting much less hittable.

 

Few facts:

No dd is invisible under 5 km without smoke.

Smoke itself is visible. Dont go in smoke if you dont know exactly what are you doing.

Smoke work against both sides. So ship in smoke dont see you without somebody else spotting

Under 2 km are ships visible even in smoke. With sonar its about 3,4 km (its written in description of sonar).

Sonar dont add to range of detection of ships, just allow detection through smoke and islands.

Living VISIBLE DD under 2km with ready torp launcher is relatively undodgeable and deadly... one of DD tactic is get to that range and fire.

Living time of DD under 5km of any enemy ship is limited and under 2 km it is lucky to get there and survive few seconds (to try launch true undodgeable torps)

[Abraa]

When do you nerf topredo's? I do see them on most ships when it is to late to evade, that means with the damage projection I'm dead! I Realy no f..g sense to play any further. So tell me when do you nerf them and yes I have destroyers at tier 7 the higher the level the worse it gets. No sense in fighting gohsts with OP weapons

 

Ok, so you claim the higher it goes the worse the OPness of Torps get, lets FACT check your claim with your own stats, since you brought it up.

 

T3 Wickes - Average damag 6 k.

T3 Wakatake - Average damage 13,7 k.

T4 Isokaze - Average damage 26,4k.

T5 Minekaze- Average damage 29,2 k.

T5 Gremyashi - Average damage 22,8k.

T7 Sims - Average damage 11,5k.

 

Where exactly is the OPness of Torps ?

[Scarebird]

Average damage per battle with my tier 6 DD is 25000

Average damage per battle with my tier 6 BB is 40500

 

Based on those stats it's battleships that need nerfing, not destroyers.  Another case of LTP OP.

[YAK9UTPRO]

torpedoes were ships destroyers they should do more damage in my opinion but it should be harder to hit the target

[Frank_F_B]

Nerf guns! They keep hitting me and there is too many of them in this game. Unfair!!

 

LOL

[mtm78]

A post like OP deserves only this..

 

[escaner]

torpedoes were ships destroyers they should do more damage in my opinion but it should be harder to hit the target

 

Yes, probably, and same with guns. Visually guesstimate the range, your own ship balancing in the water, wind, and both ships moving and changing course constantly... but this is a game and it is not meant to be realistic but fun. There would be no fun in spending 15 min shooting without hitting anything.

[Tugnut]

best way to under stand the enemy (DD & torps in this case) is go play the enemy... and not just a few games get a few  tiers up in both US and IJN and you have a better under standing on how it all works

 

[PrivatePartts]

The torpedo issue is a strange one, I have been destroyed several times by torpedoes that have come out of the edge of the map with no ships there and the 'ship' that destroyed me is not even in the team list. I think it comes down to the way WOW's is fixed just like World of Tanks was fixed so that no-one can have greater than 50% success rate. It does seem unfair to fix the game like that and gives no leeway to the experience and tactical nous of the player.

[AgarwaenME]

The torpedo issue is a strange one, I have been destroyed several times by torpedoes that have come out of the edge of the map with no ships there and the 'ship' that destroyed me is not even in the team list. I think it comes down to the way WOW's is fixed just like World of Tanks was fixed so that no-one can have greater than 50% success rate. It does seem unfair to fix the game like that and gives no leeway to the experience and tactical nous of the player.

 

Dragging up an old worthless whine thread to throw out lies and conspiracy nonsense....

 

It actually requires an amazing amount of mathematical ignorance to even claim there's any way there everyone can be at 50% or lower winrate, you know beside the easily proven fact that there's tons of people above 50%.

[Lin3]

I have a little bitr of sympathy for the OP. Yes it is annoying when you get sunk by Mr Invisible.

 

But then again the OP will get plenty of chances for REVENGE by playing cruisers or Russian DD's.

 

The Omaha, for example, has all you need for hunting down and destroying pesky Japanese DD's.

[Lin3]

The torpedo issue is a strange one, I have been destroyed several times by torpedoes that have come out of the edge of the map with no ships there and the 'ship' that destroyed me is not even in the team list. I think it comes down to the way WOW's is fixed just like World of Tanks was fixed so that no-one can have greater than 50% success rate. It does seem unfair to fix the game like that and gives no leeway to the experience and tactical nous of the player.

 

Then how do you explain the fact that a mediocre scrub of a player like myself can get a 60% win rate in this game?

[MrB0mbast1c]

 

Then how do you explain the fact that a mediocre scrub of a player like myself can get a 60% win rate in this game?

 

No ofence, but you might try the higher tiers of the game as well, 956 battles in total and 833 of those games between tier 3,4 and 5. 356 games on St. Louis, m8 thats a hell of seal clubbing. 

[Shadeshots]

Why are you re posting into a topic that was active back in September?... 

[Lin3]

 

No ofence, but you might try the higher tiers of the game as well, 956 battles in total and 833 of those games between tier 3,4 and 5. 356 games on St. Louis, m8 thats a hell of seal clubbing. 

 

PrivatePartts said " no-one can have greater than 50% success rate." No if's. No buts. No provisos.

That clearly isn't true.

If I can get a 60% win rate by playing a lot of battles in the St Louis and other assorted tier 4 and 5 ships then any vaguely competent player can.

 

And I will play whatever ships I damn well like. That's my prerogative. It's not as if I'm coming on here and saying "Look what a wonderful player I am". I know I'm not. It's just that my stats do seem to be evidence that it's easy to get a 60% win rate in this game.

[OverPenokio]

Some Chinese dude who lived 2500 years ago had some usefull things to say that might help the one who started the topic. 

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” 
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Makes sence does it?

Cheers, Gilles.

[Zuxx]

Invisible destroyers ... i know what you mean .... i've seen  that before ..... 

 

[Seikin]

Had a great game of cat and mouse in Ocean last night. Playing my Furutaka in a ranked match and ended up the last one left on our team - against the last on theirs - a DD. This fella played well, knew how to use his stealth and his torps, and dodged well - and me? yeah, cruisers are the counter to DD's, but the furrytaco with its slow turning and firing turrets and not massive amounts of manoeverability isn' the best choice for DD-hunting. I'd also used all my sonar charges by then too.

For about 5 mins I dodged torps, he dodged being spotted or shells. Hit him a couiple of times, (just)caught 1 torp in return. Didn't take too long to realise that I was outmatched - not by much - but it would have been a big risk to get close enough to see him long enough to take him down. As we were ahead on points, I figured I only needed to stay alive for the win, so let him take one of the cap points and ran for the other.

We won - but in all, it felt like the balance was about right - bearing in mind that my ship isn't the best DD hunter, and there were no other ships/planes around that could spot him, he had the best advantage he could have (apart from points!)

 

 

 

[MrB0mbast1c]

@ Lin3: I just answered your question, ofc you can play whatever you like or have fun with, I was misleading in the second part of my answer sorry, I wanted to say that IMHO WR is relative, and to have a truly significative one you should earn that WR in higher tiers. To me tier 7, 8 and 9 is where the most experienced players are atm, making every game very challenging.

[Sindrift]

There's Clingon's on the Starboard Bow, starboard bow, starboard bow, Jim. It's worse than that he's dead Jim, he's dead Jim, he's dead Jim. It's worse than that he's dead.

 So are we already playing in the far future the 22nd century isn't it? Or can't the programmers think of a better way to help Destroyers than make them invisible?

 

How about when they aim they become visible?

 

 It wouldn't be so bad except a good torper can bump you out of a game before you manage to fire a shot. I saw one guy flashing about and he must of sunk at least half the enemy. That just isn't kosher.