petethebeard Players 2 posts 2,836 battles Report post #1 Posted September 15, 2015 Just starting playing World of Warships; and one thing that strikes me as unrealistic is the speed with which torpedoes can be reloaded. Appreciate this is to enhance playability, but to me this detracts from the realism. Does anyone know what the actual reload time should be.............which must have been pretty hazardous in battle conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloomoon11 Beta Tester 300 posts Report post #2 Posted September 15, 2015 Game is not realistic, it doesn't aim to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #3 Posted September 15, 2015 Plus torps are way op do more damage than Bbs guns load faster and cant be spotted till too late Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #4 Posted September 15, 2015 Plus torps are way op do more damage than Bbs guns load faster and cant be spotted till too late nah you are just a bad player 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #5 Posted September 15, 2015 nah you are just a bad player Oh sorry mister stat whore but who gives a monkeys about stats im saying theyre faster reload than guns are harder to spot than gun fire and harder to dodge then gun fire so that's op . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LO1] Tugnut Alpha Tester 1,552 posts 8,268 battles Report post #6 Posted September 15, 2015 I think sailing in a strait line for to long is UP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DAMNO] Seinta Beta Tester 857 posts 12,319 battles Report post #7 Posted September 15, 2015 Oh sorry mister stat whore but who gives a monkeys about stats im saying theyre faster reload than guns are harder to spot than gun fire and harder to dodge then gun fire so that's op . What game are you playing? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #8 Posted September 15, 2015 I think sailing in a strait line for to long is UP True sure is but even when you dodge if theres 2 or more it doesn't matter if your caught in a torp crossfire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #9 Posted September 15, 2015 Oh sorry mister stat whore but who gives a monkeys about stats im saying theyre faster reload than guns are harder to spot than gun fire and harder to dodge then gun fire so that's op . They are slower than a battleship fire rate They have around %10 or below %10 hit ratio You can avoid them super easily 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #10 Posted September 15, 2015 What game are you playing? This game on low tiers torps load faster than BB guns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #11 Posted September 15, 2015 They are slower than a battleship fire rate They have around %10 or below %10 hit ratio You can avoid them super easily Then how come are dds and carriers so op in lower tiers if they so easily avoided and do no damage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #12 Posted September 15, 2015 This game on low tiers torps load faster than BB guns nope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #13 Posted September 15, 2015 But it doesn't strike you as unrealistic that there are more battleships per battle than destroyers? I'm all for having realistic, hour long reload for torps.....IF there are 5-8 destroyers for every battleship present. And no more magical health potion repair ability. And dive bombers are actually useful. Basically, not cherry picking realistism to benefit your favorite class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #14 Posted September 15, 2015 Then how come are dds and carriers so op in lower tiers if they so easily avoided and do no damage? Player Average for ShipClasses without PremiumShips (all players) [ at 2015/09/12 ] div name class players total battles average of rates battles win draw lose exp damage caused warship destroyed aircraft destoryed base capture base defense survived kill / death point 1 Higher Tier BB 10573 256517 24.26 47.61 6.08 46.30 3323 46365 0.70 2.08 0.47 1.33 47.49 1.53 25932 1 Higher Tier CA 15138 289143 19.10 47.91 6.18 45.90 3096 31694 0.63 2.15 0.56 1.43 34.09 1.08 24496 1 Higher Tier CV 4700 91358 19.44 47.27 6.88 45.85 4711 50956 0.77 18.15 0.17 1.97 68.73 2.77 33027 1 Higher Tier DD 6223 140605 22.59 48.13 5.92 45.96 2795 27345 0.63 0.40 1.17 0.97 32.67 1.08 29861 2 Lower Tier BB 164569 2088162 12.69 47.40 4.74 47.86 1714 24314 0.59 0.53 0.77 1.58 34.62 1.00 19487 2 Lower Tier CA 204168 2937196 14.39 47.64 3.96 48.40 1640 20054 0.62 0.56 0.67 1.63 21.53 0.86 20494 2 Lower Tier CV 62509 657078 10.51 46.61 5.68 47.71 2094 27724 0.56 10.40 0.16 1.02 51.09 1.18 25570 2 Lower Tier DD 139373 1669247 11.98 47.87 3.57 48.56 1503 17545 0.66 0.10 0.73 0.65 18.59 0.88 24224 They are not OP their enemies are newbie. Newbies dont know how to dodge torpedoes properly including you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #15 Posted September 15, 2015 Plus torps are way op do more damage than Bbs guns load faster and cant be spotted till too late Have a disproving glare from me and do some research, keep practicing avoiding them and learning how to anticipate them. They are by no means OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #16 Posted September 15, 2015 But it doesn't strike you as unrealistic that there are more battleships per battle than destroyers? I'm all for having realistic, hour long reload for torps.....IF there are 5-8 destroyers for every battleship present. And no more magical health potion repair ability. And dive bombers are actually useful. Basically, not cherry picking realistism to benefit your favorite class. I don't have a fav class but a bit of realism would help in this game at least bbs have near enough theyre reload time torps load way to fast and do way more damage as well as dds being invisible half the time and when they are spotted a bb cant do anything about them (only went to lvl 6 so cant comment on higher tiers) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #17 Posted September 15, 2015 Plus torps are way op do more damage than Bbs guns load faster and cant be spotted till too late My DD's torps take a minute to reload and the torps travel at 45 knots, how long do your guns take? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LO1] Tugnut Alpha Tester 1,552 posts 8,268 battles Report post #18 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) True sure is but even when you dodge if theres 2 or more it doesn't matter if your caught in a torp crossfire very hard for DD to do.... only 2 or more wings of torp bombers can do that.... now i am going to tell you some thing... dont let the other players know shhhhh top secret... there is a minimap.... no one knows its there... look at it and you see planes heading towards you, it even tells you the class of aircraft.... looks round to make sure no ones reading this but us..... now there is anouther OP part of the game... A D and Q E turn the ship OMG i said it shhh shhhhhh dont tell anywon on pain of a torp up the tailpipe. so you see the torp planes and you can position your ship to the planes and try to keep it that way (its not fool proof as there no 100% way of avoiding torps all of the time) but it will mean the CV pilot has to put more effort in to hitting you and your AA has more time hitting there planes. and on a bad drop by the planes you should avoid all win win. like i said tell no one Edited September 15, 2015 by Tugnut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #19 Posted September 15, 2015 Player Average for ShipClasses without PremiumShips (all players) [ at 2015/09/12 ] div name class players total battles average of rates battles win draw lose exp damage caused warship destroyed aircraft destoryed base capture base defense survived kill / death point 1 Higher Tier BB 10573 256517 24.26 47.61 6.08 46.30 3323 46365 0.70 2.08 0.47 1.33 47.49 1.53 25932 1 Higher Tier CA 15138 289143 19.10 47.91 6.18 45.90 3096 31694 0.63 2.15 0.56 1.43 34.09 1.08 24496 1 Higher Tier CV 4700 91358 19.44 47.27 6.88 45.85 4711 50956 0.77 18.15 0.17 1.97 68.73 2.77 33027 1 Higher Tier DD 6223 140605 22.59 48.13 5.92 45.96 2795 27345 0.63 0.40 1.17 0.97 32.67 1.08 29861 2 Lower Tier BB 164569 2088162 12.69 47.40 4.74 47.86 1714 24314 0.59 0.53 0.77 1.58 34.62 1.00 19487 2 Lower Tier CA 204168 2937196 14.39 47.64 3.96 48.40 1640 20054 0.62 0.56 0.67 1.63 21.53 0.86 20494 2 Lower Tier CV 62509 657078 10.51 46.61 5.68 47.71 2094 27724 0.56 10.40 0.16 1.02 51.09 1.18 25570 2 Lower Tier DD 139373 1669247 11.98 47.87 3.57 48.56 1503 17545 0.66 0.10 0.73 0.65 18.59 0.88 24224 They are not OP their enemies are newbie. Newbies dont know how to dodge torpedoes properly including you You really have a thing for stats don't you I can load up my dds and get way more kills than using a low tier bb and as for carriers I hate them and don't play em but BBs are basically large floating xp pots for dds and cvs in low tiers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #20 Posted September 15, 2015 very hard for DD to do.... only 2 or more wings of torp bombers can do that.... now i am going to tell you some thing... dont let the other players know shhhhh top secret... there is a minimap.... no one knows its there... look at it and you see planes heading towards you, it even tells you the class of aircraft.... looks round to make sure no ones reading this but us..... now there is anouther OP part of the game... A D and Q E turn the ship OMG i said it shhh shhhhhh dont tell anywon on pain of a torp up the tailpipe. so you see the torp planes and you can position your ship to the planes and try to keep it that way (its not fool proof as there no 100% way of avoiding torps all of the time) but it will mean the CV pilot has to put more effort in to hitting you and your AA has more time hitting there planes. and on a bad drop by the planes you should avoid all win win. like i said tell no one God you are so funny so I suppose u so uber you never get sunk ? Sometimes you just get in a situation where u are along and cvs and dds just own you while with other ships you can at least do something and low tier aa is laughable if your ship actually has it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HatsuzukiKaiNi Beta Tester 215 posts 6,656 battles Report post #21 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) This game on low tiers torps load faster than BB guns The few that do are also the slowest torpedoes in the game and rather easy to dodge. Edited September 15, 2015 by ScienceWoona Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #22 Posted September 15, 2015 You really have a thing for stats don't you I can load up my dds and get way more kills than using a low tier bb and as for carriers I hate them and don't play em but BBs are basically large floating xp pots for dds and cvs in low tiers you dont konw how this gmae works at all. Letm e break it to you. killing a DD from %100 health gives same exp and credit compared to killing a BB from %100 health Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister_Greek Supertester 1,046 posts 4,551 battles Report post #23 Posted September 15, 2015 BBC Breaking News: Today at 4 o clock a WOWS player called torpedos OP comparing them with the avg dmg outpout and rate of fire of a BB.The severity of his accusation caused much laughter in the forums with celebrations occuring worldwide. News anchors all over the world tell this player to try the 2:30 torpedo reload time of Shimakaze before comparing it to the 30 sec reload of Yamato.They also try to convince him that even a small misjudgement will make the torps miss. "Still a very funny story indeed David. This is Mister_Greek for the BBC News.Have a nice evening" 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #24 Posted September 15, 2015 I don't have a fav class but a bit of realism would help in this game at least bbs have near enough theyre reload time torps load way to fast and do way more damage as well as dds being invisible half the time and when they are spotted a bb cant do anything about them (only went to lvl 6 so cant comment on higher tiers) Because torpedoes, weapons with hit rates at low as 5-10% (in low tier) and even less in high tier should be non-damaging pillow launchers? Torpedoes at very low tier reload too fast, that's true, but not by a huge margin. They could do with 15-20 more seconds, but not the 5-10 minutes the OP seems to be implicitely pushing for. And they certainly do not reload faster than BBs' main guns. The very fastest reload is 2.7 per minute on the very first tier2 torpedoes that are mostly harmless with their speed and range. By the time you get to tier3, you only have 1.5 salvoes per minute, compared to the much more standard 2 salvoes per minute of BBs. By the time you get to tier6, BBs still have around 2 salvoes per minute while torps barely get to reload (not even fire) once every 2 minutes. And if that's not enough, consider this, guns have more range than torpedoes. Destroyers and torp cruisers basically never fire their torpedoes as fast as they reload, while guns almost always fire as soon as they reload. So no, torpedoes not OP. Bad players UP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black_Sheep1 ∞ Beta Tester 2,117 posts 16,691 battles Report post #25 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Plus torps are way op do more damage than Bbs guns load faster and cant be spotted till too late No they are not. The torpedos are not the issue, it is your ability to play your ships. There was a nice table where it was listed how much time you have to react if you see torps, which was around 10 seconds+. So if that is not enough you are to slow. Pro Tip. Not sailing in a straight line all the time in zoom mode might help to see them earlier. And if you see Torpedo Bombers or Destroyers at the map which might head into your direction you should be prepared that they shoot torpedos at you anyways. But gladly a good deal off BB players seems to ingnore the minimap and anything around them. Edited September 15, 2015 by Black_Sheep1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites