Epic fail (years in the making) [opinion]

[jaurl]

So this game has had years in the making fair enough it is in beta yes but WG should have held out for the release.

I can see there are very little bugs does WG do anything else but make things shiny - game-play is very poor. 

Think about it why do we not have ranked matches already? the answer is someone was obviously pressured too get results from this

years in the making extremely expensive project that is being carried by world of tanks for early release in beta. (now they cannot keep up with the updates needed before the games main impact and hype dies) 

I myself as with many other players will be waiting until the full release of the game before playing again

 

 

 

 

The lack of balance between classes will ruin ranked.

 

CV and BB queues will take ages, as people will actually want to influence the outcome of the game. No point in playing ranked in a subpar class. Without a limit to shipclasses it would be CVs only.

 

 

So what is the topic exactly? Whining?

 

 

If you want an opinion as to whether this is an epic fail then mine is no it's not. If it's just a post about how in your opinion it's an epic fail then I guess I'm still "off topic"

 **if you feel this way READ THE POST***

 -DDs could still use some work before they make/break the game

- chat boxes in lobby are bugged. Messages keep disappearing. 

- search for contacts is laggy and doesn't work properly 

- no windowless full screen

- no button to turn on replays

- target selection is buggy 

- memory leaks

- server lags at peak times 

 I kinda lost my faith in WoWs getting better. It took them 2 years to be in this spot like thats not enough they arent listening to the community at all. They listen to whiners and DD players dont whine. They jsut dont play and in 5 months after nerf and after nerf they gave USNDDs AA ability. Oh yes i definetly feel good in my IJNDDs because of that buff surely. There isnt a premium DD in shop kinda shows which area they aim(Tirptiz, Atago, Atlanta, Ishziuchi, Murmansk Warspite). I bought sims and i kinda want a refund. The ship sucks. Upgrade isnt enough. 5 month and all those data gathering only led to another DD nerf. Why dont they just delete DDs above tier 5 and nerf the low tiers to a normal state. I am willing to play 5k battles in low tier DDs 

 

 

"Epic fail (years in the making)".

I'm sure they will keep adding stuff & things     I had not assumed this was all their was bro

 

 

 

Please do not misunderstand this as A rant with me saying this is A bad game & not to play, it is A very good concept just not ready. please add your bit to my own & lets make A list that WG should put as priority instead of bringing out their pre-planned criteria 

[aboomination]

Please do not misunderstand this as A rant with me saying this is A bad game [...]

 

"Epic fail (years in the making)".

I'm sure they will keep adding stuff & things.

[Userext]

For some reason WoWs developer team is smaller than WoT developer team. WoWs devs keeps working on preparing new content. It takes 6 months to build a battleship(obviously everyone gets one BB and gets it done by 6 months) You would expect same size developer team for wows

[jaurl]

 

"Epic fail (years in the making)".

I'm sure they will keep adding stuff & things.

 

That is the whole idea of A new game

 

My point being by the time its done I will be onto bigger & better games 

Assuming it takes WOW A year at the least too be "fixed"

[Admiral_noodle]

Well from my PoV the game is excellent. Enjoyable, addictive, challenging, rewarding. And constantly being added to. So I am a big fan.

 

Is it perfect? Of course not! Is is ready and playable? Yes.

 

Just want more content now. Ranked battles will be good but we always need more maps, new ships, new challenges.

 

Is the game perfectly balanced? God no! Is it good enough? Most of the time.

 

Is MM insane? 5% of the time it's a troll.

[jaurl]

For some reason WoWs developer team is smaller than WoT developer team. WoWs devs keeps working on preparing new content. It takes 6 months to build a battleship(obviously everyone gets one BB and gets it done by 6 months) You would expect same size developer team for wows

 

This is my personal favorite point - it may take this game 2-3 years to get up & going. Myself I have been waiting since 2013 to play very let down

 

Hype for the full working version in 2020!

 

[jaurl]

Well from my PoV the game is excellent. Enjoyable, addictive, challenging, rewarding. And constantly being added to. So I am a big fan.

 

Is it perfect? Of course not! Is is ready and playable? Yes.

 

Just want more content now. Ranked battles will be good but we always need more maps, new ships, new challenges.

 

Is the game perfectly balanced? God no! Is it good enough? Most of the time.

 

Is MM insane? 5% of the time it's a troll.

Wait until 2016 when they release t5s ranked matches thats 3months worth of work I hope they make it

 

Again this post is not to say the game is "bad" I am saying by the time it is "really good' half the players will be playing gta 6-7 *headbutts desk* or even gta 8 in 2020

[Admiral_noodle]

I suppose it comes down to whether you enjoy the game or not. If not, don't play.

 

[jaurl]

I suppose it comes down to whether you enjoy the game or not. If not, don't play.

 

Off-topic bro

[Userext]

This is my personal favorite point - it may take this game 2-3 years to get up & going. Myself I have been waiting since 2013 to play very let down

 

Hype for the full working version in 2020!

 

I kinda lost my faith in WoWs getting better. It took them 2 years to be in this spot like thats not enough they arent listening to the community at all. They listen to whiners and DD players dont whine. They jsut dont play and in 5 months after nerf and after nerf they gave USNDDs AA ability. Oh yes i definetly feel good in my IJNDDs because of that buff surely. There isnt a premium DD in shop kinda shows which area they aim(Tirptiz, Atago, Atlanta, Ishziuchi, Murmansk Warspite). I bought sims and i kinda want a refund. The ship sucks. Upgrade isnt enough. 5 month and all those data gathering only led to another DD nerf. Why dont they just delete DDs above tier 5 and nerf the low tiers to a normal state. I am willing to play 5k battles in low tier DDs

[jaurl]

 

I kinda lost my faith in WoWs getting better. It took them 2 years to be in this spot like thats not enough they arent listening to the community at all. They listen to whiners and DD players dont whine. They jsut dont play and in 5 months after nerf and after nerf they gave USNDDs AA ability. Oh yes i definetly feel good in my IJNDDs because of that buff surely. There isnt a premium DD in shop kinda shows which area they aim(Tirptiz, Atago, Atlanta, Ishziuchi, Murmansk Warspite). I bought sims and i kinda want a refund. The ship sucks. Upgrade isnt enough. 5 month and all those data gathering only led to another DD nerf. Why dont they just delete DDs above tier 5 and nerf the low tiers to a normal state. I am willing to play 5k battles in low tier DDs

 

After you do "get into" the t8,9 & 10 you do notice the need for DDs to be OP

 

Although I agree 100% with the assesment you have made, prehaps the game really should be in A locked Beta still.

Its like getting your first car on your 21st birthday - the engine runs great but no rego or tyres  

 

 

Just for example the game company Jagex realized the problem of not listening too the community when their flag game runescape

Went into extreme trouble for "bad updates"

[kamuka]

The lack of balance between classes will ruin ranked.

 

CV and BB queues will take ages, as people will actually want to influence the outcome of the game. No point in playing ranked in a subpar class. Without a limit to shipclasses it would be CVs only.

[jaurl]

I do also feel the hype of ranked matches with only 6-7s will only last A week at most before the waiting que is 10mins or longer 
lol

 

nice point kamuka

 

[Admiral_noodle]

 

Off-topic bro

 

So what is the topic exactly? Whining?

 

Things that are genuinely not *right* and need to be fixed though: 

- chat boxes in lobby are bugged. Messages keep disappearing. 

- search for contacts is laggy and doesn't work properly 

- no windowless full screen

- no button to turn on replays

- target selection is buggy

- memory leaks

- server lags at peak times 

 

But i don't know if this would be better in the open beta feedback forum?

 

If you want an opinion as to whether this is an epic fail then mine is no it's not. If it's just a post about how in your opinion it's an epic fail then I guess I'm still "off topic"

[Userext]

 

After you do "get into" the t8,9 & 10 you do notice the need for DDs to be OP

 

Although I agree 100% with the assesment you have made, prehaps the game really should be in A locked Beta still.

Its like getting your first car on your 21st birthday - the engine runs great but no rego or tyres  

 

 

Just for example the game company Jagex realized the problem of not listening too the community when their flag game runescape

Went into extreme trouble for "bad updates"

 

i played t8-9-10 DDs. I really dont like the idea of being a tasty little hamburger to CAs. Yes run away from the ship that has same speed. You will die.

[jaurl]

 

i played t8-9-10 DDs. I really dont like the idea of being a tasty little hamburger to CAs. Yes run away from the ship that has same speed. You will die.

 

Cruisers/Destroyers comparatively were not that much different in speed in alot of cases

the larger ship meant A physically larger engine but yes I do see your 1shot point 

 

Cruisers are slightly off with gun ability WG would have us believe that A shell fired from 16" guns may only do superficial damage whilst the 8" can reload in moments & burn you with any hit -

Cruisers were not THAT much smaller than alot of BBs inc CA's

 

 

----------USS Baltimore---------the only exception

 

Note yes it would suck if you were sailing along in your BB than got 1shotted from A single shell ask the sailors of the Hms hood

[jaurl]

 

So what is the topic exactly? Whining?

 

Things that are genuinely not *right* and need to be fixed though: 

- chat boxes in lobby are bugged. Messages keep disappearing. 

- search for contacts is laggy and doesn't work properly 

- no windowless full screen

- no button to turn on replays

- target selection is buggy

- memory leaks

- server lags at peak times 

 

But i don't know if this would be better in the open beta feedback forum?

 

If you want an opinion as to whether this is an epic fail then mine is no it's not. If it's just a post about how in your opinion it's an epic fail then I guess I'm still "off topic"

Please do not misunderstand this as A rant with me saying this is A bad game & not to play, it is A very good concept just not ready. please add your bit to my own & lets make A list that WG should put as priority instead of bringing out their pre-planned criteria.....?

 

Please do not spam & read my post properly if you think it should be moved I am not against your opinion on that & will consider it

 

*lets say hypothetically saying it takes A month for A patch how long do you think it will be until the game is in "full working condition"

This post is too discuss the update priority & the fact of time vs game hype 

[jaurl]

Prehaps DDs should be more flexible while turning from fire giving A better chance too "dodge smaller shells"

[Nechrom]

I get that the game can't be perfectly balanced from the get go. I'm okay with Cleveland, Murmansk, Izumo etc being OP/UP. Whatever, those are individual ships. What I'm not okay with is that basically an entire class and a half is pretty much food for the others. DDs past tier 5 and to a lesser extent CAs are so far from okay that it's incredible that the game is going for release in just a couple of days.

DDs as a whole need a massive overhaul. Start by normalizing torpedo reload speed to start higher than now at low tier and slowly increase between tiers to a lower max point than we have now. Fix the detection of torpedoes so that it doesn't get easier and easier to evade them the higher you go in the tiers. Also change it so that torpedoes don't stay spotted indefinitely, because that makes no actual sense. Both the DDs themselves and their torpedoes also need to be a lot more difficult to spot from the air, I'd say by half of what we have now.

[jaurl]

I get that the game can't be perfectly balanced from the get go. I'm okay with Cleveland, Murmansk, Izumo etc being OP/UP. Whatever, those are individual ships. What I'm not okay with is that basically an entire class and a half is pretty much food for the others. DDs past tier 5 and to a lesser extent CAs are so far from okay that it's incredible that the game is going for release in just a couple of days.

DDs as a whole need a massive overhaul. Start by normalizing torpedo reload speed to start higher than now at low tier and slowly increase between tiers to a lower max point than we have now. Fix the detection of torpedoes so that it doesn't get easier and easier to evade them the higher you go in the tiers. Also change it so that torpedoes don't stay spotted indefinitely, because that makes no actual sense. Both the DDs themselves and their torpedoes also need to be a lot more difficult to spot from the air, I'd say by half of what we have now.

 

This will go into the list under DDs I think but YES YES 100% agreement why, "why implement An obviously broken part into the game"

[OldGrandad]

So this game has had years in the making fair enough it is in beta yes but WG should have held out for the release.

I can see there are very little bugs does WG do anything else but make things shiny - game-play is very poor. 

 

Think about it why do we not have ranked matches already? the answer is someone was obviously pressured too get results from this

years in the making extremely expensive project that is being carried by world of tanks for early release in beta. (now they cannot keep up with the updates needed before the games main impact and hype dies) 

 

I myself as with many other players will be waiting until the full release of the game before playing again

 

 **if you feel this way READ THE POST***

 

Please do not misunderstand this as A rant with me saying this is A bad game & not to play, it is A very good concept just not ready. please add your bit to my own & lets make A list that WG should put as priority instead of bringing out their pre-planned criteria 

 

I thought I best to read the entire thread first before responding. Often, whine/rant threads started by an OP, they are more often than not triggered by some personal poor experiences. The game itself is ready for release, it is the balance that needs tweaking (some areas a lot, some areas not so much) to create a more level playing field. Yes, there are 'bugs' but any software developer will tell you due to the ever evolving nature of a program (this game in this instance) new bugs often emerge (Windows anybody?) and even AAA games are often patched after release.

 

Years in the making? Well I for one have been fortunate to have been involved since Alpha (I was invited last October) where much of the game was still in a very raw state indeed so here we are now less than a year later and the differences are remarkable. I want to finish off by saying, that I am no apologist and hold some personal concerns about the game myself, but what I will be and that is to be a little patient.

[alalos]

Well from my PoV the game is excellent. Enjoyable, addictive, challenging, rewarding. And constantly being added to. So I am a big fan.

 

Is it perfect? Of course not! Is is ready and playable? Yes.

 

Just want more content now. Ranked battles will be good but we always need more maps, new ships, new challenges.

 

Is the game perfectly balanced? God no! Is it good enough? Most of the time.

 

Is MM insane? 5% of the time it's a troll.

 

 

except the ranked battles... idk

 

i like teamplay.. but 1/7vs7/1 doesnt kick me at all... it is almost the same.. like 12 vs 12. ( Yeah you will have more impact as good player.. and still bad players will be carried too ).

 

 

[ShuggieHamster]

As a recent arrival my opinion isnt quite as polarised as the old salts but the game isnt bad. Yes it has flaws. Yes i can already see why vets are getting frustrated but theres a lot of focusing on the negative rather than looking at whats great about the game.

 

Fail platoons, relentless nerfing of DDs, CVs with god like powers ... TBH its just part of the game to me. Just another annoyance like having missions to shot down planes in ships with F all AA. I'll put up with some roughness to continue driving my DDs ... And torping Anying flagged red

 

 

[jaurl]

 

I thought I best to read the entire thread first before responding. Often, whine/rant threads started by an OP, they are more often than not triggered by some personal poor experiences. The game itself is ready for release, it is the balance that needs tweaking (some areas a lot, some areas not so much) to create a more level playing field. Yes, there are 'bugs' but any software developer will tell you due to the ever evolving nature of a program (this game in this instance) new bugs often emerge (Windows anybody?) and even AAA games are often patched after release.

 

Years in the making? Well I for one have been fortunate to have been involved since Alpha (I was invited last October) where much of the game was still in a very raw state indeed so here we are now less than a year later and the differences are remarkable. I want to finish off by saying, that I am no apologist and hold some personal concerns about the game myself, but what I will be and that is to be a little patient.

I wasn't able too have the interwebs for alpha

 

It had been A long wait from the first announcement of this game until the alpha, as any game they do often take awhile to make in the first place.

I don't see so many bugs myself for sure though their are A few big obvious ones.

 

My fear is the release of the game now will hit it's hype soon on & than the "hype" dies down becomes the players that are simple long term playing 

With many less people for us too play with XD

 

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As a recent arrival my opinion isnt quite as polarised as the old salts but the game isnt bad. Yes it has flaws. Yes i can already see why vets are getting frustrated but theres a lot of focusing on the negative rather than looking at whats great about the game.

 

Fail platoons, relentless nerfing of DDs, CVs with god like powers ... TBH its just part of the game to me. Just another annoyance like having missions to shot down planes in ships with F all AA. I'll put up with some roughness to continue driving my DDs ... And torping Anying flagged red

 On ya captain, I salute you!

 

 

BY ALL MEAN THIS IS A GOOD GAME

 

[bloomoon11]

I doubt it'll be an epic fail, in fact I imagine it'll be a financial success.  I suspect the game is relatively low cost to develop and they've clearly learnt how to extract money from players efficiently, 'tis a good formula!