fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #301 Posted September 21, 2015 When you have years of gaming experience in different types of games, you do not need to have statistics to know when something is OP or UP. Yes. But arguing Midway is OP based on bad statistics is the problem, not saying Midway is OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luckyio ∞ Players 310 posts 8,360 battles Report post #302 Posted September 22, 2015 Yes. But arguing Midway is OP based on bad statistics is the problem, not saying Midway is OP. Remember folks, when you lose an argument, invent another argument or just start splitting hairs. No one will ever suspect you! Still, you got our resident animu spammer to actually post relevant content. Kudos for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Un1eash Players 78 posts Report post #303 Posted September 22, 2015 but I'll say that midway is OP by torp 's spread and dmg per torp pick one of this nerf torp's spread or reduce torp's dmg for balance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vulgarny Sailing Hamster 1,546 posts 3,274 battles Report post #304 Posted September 22, 2015 But then you also nerf either whole CV line or all CV from Independence up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagon_NOR Beta Tester 80 posts 2,161 battles Report post #305 Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Someone mentioned earlier the RNG for BB and how the CV have none. The best solution to increase the RNG for CV would be a stronger BB AA at tier 9 and 10. I just started playing the Essex and have played the Iowa and Montana (both with all AA upgrades and skills) and can tell you that even the Essex (and off course the Midway) will always be able to do a good torp-run on a lonely (or just lightly escorted) BB no matter what. If we assume that a good BB captain will do 1-2 cit hits per good salvo on a BB and that he has 30 sec reload, that would mean that (including time for refuel and flight time) a CV should probably do 6 - 8 torphits per run. Now we have to factor in that the CV can aproach all targets (more or less), while the BB might not be in a good spot for shooting at anything, so lets shave off some torp hits. So how about average 4-6 torp hits for a run with two US torp bomber squads? This could only be achieved generally if the single BB AA would get a serious buff. But that would mean that ships driving together would be untouchable for CV. You can see the dilemma that derives from that. Another solution would be a wider spread. But that would destroy a big part of the difference between the US and IJN CV line. Im not sure how to solve the issue without upsetting anybody, but if i had to do something i would start by increasing tier 9 and 10 BB AA with about 20% dmg for now and see how that would turn out. btw. i just recently started playing CV properly, but playing the Essex is realy putting the fun back in the game. The only thing that is somewhat annoying is to fend off the enemy CV. Would be much easier if the CV wouldn't attack each other all the time. Edited September 22, 2015 by Dagon_NOR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #306 Posted September 22, 2015 Someone mentioned earlier the RNG for BB and how the CV have none. The best solution to increase the RNG for CV would be a stronger BB AA at tier 9 and 10. The best solutions is to remove RNG from AAs. Yes there is RNG at AAs. A plane can stay in your close range area for 1 full min and still survive. Sharana mentioned this before. AA works as "chance" of shooting down planes. Health of the squadron/DPS or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SERBS] RepSrb Players 653 posts 24,958 battles Report post #307 Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) it seems no amount of cv nerf can help some players.... slight better performance is logical if many cv players come from other RTS games with good pre-knowledge about carrier play , multitasking , reading tutorials and advices ,etc... Edited September 22, 2015 by repsrb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites