Treaten with report

[Blue_Bug]

Since this thread is open I would like to get some opinions.

Yesterday I was divisioning with a friend. We entered battle in 2 BB's I was in the Fuso and he was in a Myogi ice he has not reached the Kongo yet. We were thrown in with T8. We instantly got reported by allot of players for I entering a game with a T4 and a T6 BB even though we finished the match in position 3 and 4. I wan to hear from some of the experienced players since in my opinion a Myogi with a Fuso seems like a ok division.

Is it or is it not ok?

Thoughts

 

Have a great one,

Barky

 

A Fuso is much better as a Myogi. A New Mexico is much better as a Myogi or Wyoming. For the MM the Myogi counts now as a Fuso, so you put your team in a disadvantage. So it is not OK. Generally speaking , one tier difference is acceptable.

 

We finished 3-4 in our team and Myogi has he same caliber and nearly the same range as the Fuso + you still meet T4 BB's in T8 with no division attached that's why I asked

 

You don't measure the quality of a BB only by the size of its guns and range. That you still meet T4 BB in a T8 is no excuse, cause your T4 counts as a T6. That you meet T4 in T8 doesn't mean a T4 is as good as a T8.

[Barkyro]

We managed to win. I dd not take anything because lowest tier I have is 6 (except the Albany which does not count) and I took the Fuso because I don't even have a T6 CA or CL just T7 and T8 pus it has a similar gameplay range and damage(per shot).

 

Ok got it.

Ty for the opinions.

[Syrchalis]

Myogi and Fuso is a fail division as the Myogi will count as a tier 6 battleship in MM. Kongo would just about have been acceptable but if you're dragged into a tier 8 match Myogi is just a liability.

 

Reporting for that is a bit much though.

 

I think more than 1 tier difference in divisions is pushing it as well.

 

Reporting for that - I don't know. I think it shouldn't be allowed to report for that. However, WG should really consider preventing insane fail divisions in the first place.

-1 tier is okay

-2 tiers is questionable

-3 tiers and more difference is screwing your team deliberately+

So a 2 tier difference rule would be pretty good.

[Interdiction]

Reporting is actually the act of a person of low esteem

 

Now complimenting people is fine and dandy

 

But neither of them do jack so why even bother

 

If anything your wasting the resources of WG to tackle some real issues

 

 

[Shaka_D]

Reporting is actually the act of a person of low esteem

This is a rather warped way of thinking. Not sure how you'll ever manage to justify this, it's complete rubbish.

[Interdiction]

This is a rather warped way of thinking. Not sure how you'll ever manage to justify this, it's complete rubbish.

 

Warped or just realistic .....Take you pick but reporting does jack so why bother

 

Same as putting in a ticket for a TK ...why would you even go down that route

 

 

[Syrchalis]

Reporting with screenshot as ticket does something. Believe me.

[Shaka_D]

 

Warped or just realistic .....Take you pick but reporting does jack so why bother

 

Same as putting in a ticket for a TK ...why would you even go down that route

 

 

 

Yes, I agree that some people's expectations from making a report are overzealous and the effort they put it for something that is minor is silly, but making the assumption that people that make reports suffer from low self-esteem is what I was criticising you for..it has nothing to do with realism either...that was a sweeping generalisation that is not true at all.

 

Fact is, if you criticise someone for poor play, being a fool, noob, etc. then don't expect them to be happy about it because they won't be, and in many cases they will retaliate with a report. So the question is, why do people feel the need to do it in the first place if they're unhappy about being reported? If you can dish it out then you should be able to take it no so?

[Crow_Eschatologist]

I always quietly report anyone I see targeting people for bullying by name-calling in any game. It's obnoxious and childish and I would prefer to play in an environment where people can behave better than 12 year old with an attitude problem. 

 

Point in case League of Legends became a far more pleasant place to play after they went super-strict with the banstick 

 

If only WG could come up with a decent behaviour moderation system.

[Tugnut]

call them a nap instead... non advanced player

 

[simonmd]

Since this thread is open I would like to get some opinions.

Yesterday I was divisioning with a friend. We entered battle in 2 BB's I was in the Fuso and he was in a Myogi ice he has not reached the Kongo yet. We were thrown in with T8. We instantly got reported by allot of players for I entering a game with a T4 and a T6 BB even though we finished the match in position 3 and 4. I wan to hear from some of the experienced players since in my opinion a Myogi with a Fuso seems like a ok division.

Is it or is it not ok?

Thoughts

 

Have a great one,

Barky

 

There is two sides to this. What alot of people dont seem to realise is that when in a division, your HIGHEST ship counts for the entire group, therefore, you can easily see a ship way under what it should be in a team. This is what angers alot of people in the game as they will see a T3 turn up amungst a load of T5 and above and see this as a disadvantage to the team. I was in a match recently in a T6 Cleveland with most of the others being T5-7 and we had a Tier TWO Chester!!! He got tons of insults thrown at him by most of the team I can tell you, I just thought it was amusing.......

 

The other side to this is the fact that ANY ships in a division are likely to play better (IMHO of course) than individual ships because they are communicating and working more as a team, sometimes skill means more than just your ship level. 

 

I think on the whole though, you cant deny that two T6 ships would be better than a T6 and a T4, no matter what the skill level so I think it's wise to try to keep divisions to the same Tier.

[Rebeldad1]

 

Noob is not a swear but it is derogatory and hence not in the spirit of good sportsmanship, therefore I'll report anyone that uses it on me too. As for the CBT reference..what an anus that guy must have been. If he was serious I can't see him ever contributing any worthwhile to the human race.

 

I accept your challenge noob. Where shall I send the report?

[simonmd]

Here's a classic example I posted in another thread,

 

T3 and a T4 mixing it with Tier NINEs!!! 

 

Needless to say, the T3 was the first ship sunk and gave the team an immediate disadvantage, what were they thinking?

[Userext]

Here's a classic example I posted in another thread,

 

T3 mixing it with T NINEs!!! 

 

Needless to say, the T3 was the first ship sunk and gave the team an immediate disadvantage, what were they thinking?

 

There is nothing WG can do against a tier 6 divisioning with tier 3. What do you think MM do? There are tons of problem this gmae has that tier 3 DD divisioning with tier 6 ship is not even close to being one of them

[ShuggieHamster]

2 st louis teamed with a chester was what my isokase saw today ... The chester parked making the enemy nickolas's torp spread a master class in wacking a stationary target. After the chester got wiped ... And the 2 st louis started shooting at each other, the rest of us went out and smoked the opposition in 8 minutes. Guess we were all motivated what with 25% of the team being @rsehats and all!

[simonmd]

 

There is nothing WG can do against a tier 6 divisioning with tier 3. What do you think MM do? There are tons of problem this gmae has that tier 3 DD divisioning with tier 6 ship is not even close to being one of them

 

I'm not saying there is, nor was anyone else I dont think. The point here is to help people understand that bringing T3 and T4 ships along with your T6 ship is NOT a very considerate thing to do for the team. They will all be counted as T6 ships and therefore, the team is at a disadvantage from thr start. Now they maybe great players who work well together as a team, sure. However, this was not the case in the match I posted above, they were just a liability and that isnt fair to the rest of the players.

[Userext]

 

I'm not saying there is, nor was anyone else I dont think. The point here is to help people understand that bringing T3 and T4 ships along with your T6 ship is NOT a very considerate thing to do for the team. They will all be counted as T6 ships and therefore, the team is at a disadvantage from thr start. Now they maybe great players who work well together as a team, sure. However, this was not the case in the match I posted above, they were just a liability and that isnt fair to the rest of the players.

 

so you werent blaming MM?

[simonmd]

I thought i'd made that clear, no. It's true to say that the MM IS responsible for classing a low tier ship as the same level as it's higher tier division partner but I can see the logic in this, it's surely to stop people having 2x T1 ships and a T6 for example as this would result in a T6 ship in a match mainly full of T3's, resulting in the T6 ship being able to 'seal club' at will. No, the fault here is clearly with the divisions themselves and their lack of consideration for others in the same match by picking ridiculously incompatible ships. I totally agree with those that say divisions should be locked into either the same tier or just 1 tier either side. 

[Barkyro]

I still consider that 2 tiers difference is ok but I will keep it at 1 tier difference even if that means I need to buy back old ships

As a side note there ARE a shitload of people doing fail divisions.

 

@Simond

Edit your pick to take out the players names no naming and shaming