[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #76 Posted September 25, 2015 Full ack! That's so true if you play against people with zero skill on low tiers. Given I played some cvs in CBT I think I'd do rather well if I tried one now at low tiers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LO1] Tugnut Alpha Tester 1,552 posts 8,125 battles Report post #77 Posted September 25, 2015 You should tell him to come back, as carriers are no longer overperforming, at least in my opinion. Or, if he liked the game enough, he'd just "adapt and overcome", just like some of us did with other aspects of the game (Colorado..). Never had a issue with CV playing them or avoiding them... maybe the fact i played them gave me a better knowlage of not being hit by them... And still see a lot of posts on nerf CV still due to some players just wont learn that if planes are heading for you to start thinking whats ahead of you (islands) and what would be the best way of avoiding them when they get to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Figment Beta Tester 3,801 posts 10,499 battles Report post #78 Posted September 25, 2015 Well as an update I now have: WR 51% K/d 1.91 Damage 36k Tier 5.3 All of these are on the up. I'm most pleased that damage and survival are up. Less bothered about win rate. I've watched videos and even my cruiser play has improved. So overall a good player I think will have "solid" stats throughout... I wish we could have some global averages by ship/class/tier. Good to hear you've been improving on your play, always nice to see someone who takes tips and critique and puts it into practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trrprrprr Players 228 posts 3,227 battles Report post #79 Posted September 26, 2015 Never had a issue with CV playing them or avoiding them... maybe the fact i played them gave me a better knowlage of not being hit by them... And still see a lot of posts on nerf CV still due to some players just wont learn that if planes are heading for you to start thinking whats ahead of you (islands) and what would be the best way of avoiding them when they get to me. Thats empty words, if thats work with first tier Cvs, it wont ever work with tier 7+, where IF you get focused, you are dead or crippled that even DD will finish you. I know how to avoid torps and bombs, i know how to react if DD close by, but there is no damn RNGesus move to avoid 5+ plane squads. Even if you get hit by two torps per sqad(and you will) following by bombers, you are close to dead....and if CV saves one bomber after you repair = insta death. So dont tell that [edited] about skill evading and reaction. Plane will spot you from 15km, when you see him there and start to turn away, in that moment when you will be with [edited]to that zerg plane army they ill be ~ 4km away from you and then its just a dice roll - will CV captain fck up or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LO1] Tugnut Alpha Tester 1,552 posts 8,125 battles Report post #80 Posted September 26, 2015 Thats empty words, if thats work with first tier Cvs, it wont ever work with tier 7+, where IF you get focused, you are dead or crippled that even DD will finish you. I know how to avoid torps and bombs, i know how to react if DD close by, but there is no damn RNGesus move to avoid 5+ plane squads. Even if you get hit by two torps per sqad(and you will) following by bombers, you are close to dead....and if CV saves one bomber after you repair = insta death. So dont tell that [edited] about skill evading and reaction. Plane will spot you from 15km, when you see him there and start to turn away, in that moment when you will be with [edited]to that zerg plane army they ill be ~ 4km away from you and then its just a dice roll - will CV captain fck up or not. like i said i never had a problem with it... some times i been caught in the moment and they got me. But thats down to me not keeping a eye out. You got to make them work for there damage... longer they take to get in position more likely you get some killed before there drop... and more time cv captain having to spend on you for maybe no damage... bet you he dont go after you a 2nd time. So cry all you like makes no difference to me. The only issue i see is more they make BB easyer to play more likely the game is to fail and turn in to a wowp game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #81 Posted September 26, 2015 like i said i never had a problem with it... some times i been caught in the moment and they got me. But thats down to me not keeping a eye out. You got to make them work for there damage... longer they take to get in position more likely you get some killed before there drop... and more time cv captain having to spend on you for maybe no damage... bet you he dont go after you a 2nd time. So cry all you like makes no difference to me. The only issue i see is more they make BB easyer to play more likely the game is to fail and turn in to a wowp game. Even Sharana couldn't always sink me, and he said he did his best. CV is not auto kill, granted I was in a quite nimble DD and my moving with the planes on the minimap took me out of the game for those 3 attacks he tried to launch on me but the same can be said from the carrier and trading a single DD firepower with a CV firepower wise is not a bad trade. In short: don't just say you can avoid torpedo's when you know how to use wasd, say it when you're actively scanning minimap for planes and start moving in time.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #82 Posted September 26, 2015 On average with Fuso if a carrier singles me out with 2x dds and 2x torps in cross pattern I will lose 1/3-1/2 my health and be out of action for about 2-3 minutes trying to repair. Annoying. But probably about right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharana Alpha Tester 2,271 posts 1,040 battles Report post #83 Posted September 26, 2015 Even Sharana couldn't always sink me, and he said he did his best. CV is not auto kill, granted I was in a quite nimble DD and my moving with the planes on the minimap took me out of the game for those 3 attacks he tried to launch on me but the same can be said from the carrier and trading a single DD firepower with a CV firepower wise is not a bad trade. In short: don't just say you can avoid torpedo's when you know how to use wasd, say it when you're actively scanning minimap for planes and start moving in time.. 1 USN TB with those slow torps is easy. Properly executed with 2 IJN squadrons is another matter, but that's their power after all and after the last patch DDs need 2-3 torps to die instead of just one, so you still need at least 2 attacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #84 Posted September 26, 2015 Lol I didn't find it that easy and you really took me out of the match a couple of times when I wanted to launch but couldn't because I saw those planes coming to a vector I didn't trust you with Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
