[Discuss] The viability of High level DD play.

[LeshiiY]

regarding the viability of the top tier DDs...ask any top tier NON CV player what scares them the most in the game. they WILL say it's the enemy DD. i'm mainly playing DDs.when i get into the game and see the setups i am afraid only of 2 things, enemy CV or a DD.if the match has no CVs then it's pretty much free reign. if there's no CV and ENEMY DD in the match, you're god. and with the amount of BBs and CAs in the top tiers atm. DDs ARE SCARY 

here's some screens of what happens when the enemy team lets the DD play uncontested

 

[VonVolks]

Holy Jackamoly! Now thats some tier 10 pwnage!

 

Great game!

[alalos]

 

To support your idea: 

http://www.warshipstats.com/shipleaders/

 

Global/Japan/Minekaze to Kagero/Damage

 

This is the global server stats. 

Minekaze at highest 75k average damage

Mutsuki at highest 59k average damage

Hatsuharu at highest 56k average damage

Fubuki at highest 67k average damage

Kagero at highest 72.9k average damage

 

This isnt caused by lower rate of torpedo fire this is caused by 12 seconds reaction time.

 

You do have another account or how you know that ?

There are a few factors bc of that.

- reload

- speed ( dd )

- maps

- torp spread

 

but the most importants are... up there.. a few people did learn to play.

Most likely enemy BB´s wont go straight for 1 minute... a real played crusier will miss maybe the first salvo.. but not the second.

You get most likely hunted by other good DD Cpt... and you will be the main target.

CV´s will spot you NON STOP if they are able to ( thanks to the update they have to care about the other CV too.. not like before and they were lucky ).

 

You will stay at your CV if your close and no cruiser will protect it.. for the smokeing if needed.

 

You smoke your team much more... i don´t need that at tier 4-5.. why should i ? Iam a predator at that tier level.

 

The dd gameplay changes with tier 6.. i had to learn it the very hard way...

 

 

 

 

[Khitan]

The success of a DD should not be judged on damage done alone.

Map control - you can lock a map area down denying the enemy.

scouting in front of your BB vs theirs, very effective if they dont have a DD screen

Holding a flank all by yourself by spamming torps at them

Speculative torps early game into lines of approach to main battle areas can disrupt the enemy giving your team tactical advantage..

Torp runs dont have to hit to be effective. If an enemy ship is avoiding your torps he is not shooting, nor is he going the direction he wants and you are disrupting his battle position - all of which gives your team an edge.

 

none of these result in great stats other than WR - but nevertheless I would argue are more important than a torpedo hit.

[Userext]

The success of a DD should not be judged on damage done alone.

Map control - you can lock a map area down denying the enemy.

scouting in front of your BB vs theirs, very effective if they dont have a DD screen

Holding a flank all by yourself by spamming torps at them

Speculative torps early game into lines of approach to main battle areas can disrupt the enemy giving your team tactical advantage..

Torp runs dont have to hit to be effective. If an enemy ship is avoiding your torps he is not shooting, nor is he going the direction he wants and you are disrupting his battle position - all of which gives your team an edge.

 

none of these result in great stats other than WR - but nevertheless I would argue are more important than a torpedo hit.

 

Player Average for Ships (all players) [ at 2015/09/19 ]

nation	class	tier	name	players	total battles	average of rates
						battles	win	draw	lose	exp	damage caused	warship destroyed	aircraft destoryed	base capture	base defense	survived	kill / death	point
JP	DD	2	Umikaze	17737	67985	3.83	52.19	0.69	47.11	712	13554	0.75	0.00	0.91	0.71	22.46	0.96	19209
JP	DD	3	Wakatake	20985	94590	4.51	49.94	2.81	47.25	776	15822	0.67	0.02	0.85	0.52	18.83	0.80	19266
JP	DD	4	Isokaze	27061	151900	5.61	50.77	4.20	45.03	996	22366	0.81	0.07	0.81	0.36	22.25	1.04	21164
JP	DD	5	Minekaze	24757	172820	6.98	52.25	3.98	43.77	1231	27972	0.94	0.09	0.88	0.39	25.33	1.28	23531
JP	DD	6	Mutsuki	14829	123025	8.30	49.38	4.28	46.34	1362	23552	0.63	0.47	1.04	0.38	29.89	0.98	24069
JP	DD	7	Hatsuharu	4500	48603	10.80	50.01	4.39	45.61	1670	25083	0.63	0.41	1.11	0.60	32.74	1.01	26154
JP	DD	8	Fubuki	1154	16989	14.72	48.09	6.10	45.81	1984	32167	0.64	0.37	1.30	0.86	35.36	1.12	27879
JP	DD	9	Kagero	292	5624	19.26	50.28	4.72	45.00	2350	44373	0.75	0.29	1.67	1.13	48.02	1.72	30965
JP	DD	10	Shimakaze	139	2532	18.22	50.58	5.76	43.67	2677	63985	0.91	0.36	2.08	1.39	53.30	2.29	32764