Message to Carrier Captains. Don't do it!

[Akula971]

I find that in so many games, I launch a neat spread of torpedoes at a target, watch them on course to hit, and then out of the blue a so called friendly carrier thinks I'll attack that target. The target can see your planes way before they will see my torpedoes, and guess what? They target changes course to avoid the carrier attack, and the destroyers torpedoes miss. Just don't do it you muppets!

 

[Userext]

they dont care. OH the mmeories are coming back.... Mah beautfiull full on attacks....stahp! oh ze feelingz(not trolling btw sounds like trolling so had to add this )

[Kenliero]

I find that in so many games, I launch a neat spread of torpedoes at a target, watch them on course to hit, and then out of the blue a so called friendly carrier thinks I'll attack that target. The target can see your planes way before they will see my torpedoes, and guess what? They target changes course to avoid the carrier attack, and the destroyers torpedoes miss. Just don't do it you muppets!

 

I have in fact done exactly the opposite with my friend in division, I have circled on top of the enemy ship with planes, in a way that I make him turn, so that he hits perfectly to the torpedoes that my friend launched with his Benson... Then proceed to kill someone else

[N00b32]

they dont care. OH the mmeories are coming back.... Mah beautfiull full on attacks....stahp! oh ze feelingz(not trolling btw sounds like trolling so had to add this )

 

You know, I did care. I play mostly DDs and know the problems. But you just reminded me, why one should give a [edited]about other players. Because even if you do care, they still generalize, insult and so on. Just give them the treatement you get. From now on, I will do it with pleasure. 

 

 a so called friendly

 

Oh I see. You are part of the great communist carrier plot? When the so called "carriers" of the fascist and imperialist so called "democratic nations" like the USA appear, they will fall apart where they flow, Because they are a lie of so called "western" "propaganda". 

 

[IamTroublemaker]

Had a similar problem the other day in my DD.

 

Had 4 kills in first couple of minutes at Solomon islands and I was fighting a Kuma in my Clemson, and as I launched my torpedoes at it, I got hit by friendly ones fired by Isokaze which was more than 6 km away from me, but the funny things is that I was fighting that Kuma for some time already, and we didn't change our positions a lot, which got me to thinking that most of players don't give a f*ck whether they will kill you or if you almost killed your and their target, they will just fire because they want the kill (even though there is no way they can kill it before you or someone else)...

[Ascender]

I think this would be mainly that from the carrier's perspective the torpedoes are still too far out to be noticeable for him and from the top-down view they get it's harder to tell that those torpedoes are aimed at that specific target (specifically lead would be harder to judge). Not saying this in his defense, but rather as a point of understanding.

 

When it comes to carriers balls'ing up a DDs playstyle a few times I have stalked a lone BB, went in top speed to try and get the kill (BBs usually 50-60% HP) and before I could do so they would be picked off by carriers. I get that carriers also want to pick off lone, isolated targets, but it sure doesn't help the performance of destroyers whose torpedoes have less range than their detectability.

[Battledragon]

The carriers I hate on my team are the ones that try an attack the same ship I am, from such an agle that they're more than likely to hit ME.  had one of these jerks in a match yesterday.  Apparently it was my fault that I was not watching what he was doing dropping torpedoes right across my course to get at the Fuso I was fighting in my Warspite....  Apparently I "turned into his torpedos"...  I was in a [edited]WARSPITE I was moving about 15 knots as I was already turning when he dropped to try and stay behind the Fuso since I was on low health.
Honestly, I only have two eyes, and they don't swivel independantly, if I'm in a knife fight with another battleship and keeping an eye out on a mogami I can't also be worrying about some idiot in a carrier dropping his torpedoes RIGHT BEHIND ME and angled accross my course.

I might also add that if I HADN'T been turning, I'd have actually caught the entire salvo in my side rather than just the one on the end that sank me so the "You turned into it" excuse was the lamest thing ever.

[VonVolks]

the real killer is when you have done a 9km torp run, all nice and true, then a CV torps them at point black just before yours arrive, and kills it.... gaaarrrrr

[Userext]

the real killer is when you have done a 9km torp run, all nice and true, then a CV torps them at point black just before yours arrive, and kills it.... gaaarrrrr

 

No no no the real killer is you launch torps from 8km and 5 seconds after that your target dies and you watch those torpedoes sail for 20kms. Oh the pain

[Syrchalis]

If I see torpedos going to LIKELY HIT a target I don't attack it as CV, as that would be a waste of damage potential. Though, if it looks like only 1-2 torps or none will hit I usually attack anyway, because the attack might just make more torpedos of the DD hit and if not, it's not really damage wasted.

 

It's simply not very effective to attack a DDs target. So I don't know why so many other CVs don't pay attention to that.

 

Contrary to what Ascender said, from top down it's much EASIER to see what a DD is targeting and if he will hit or not.

[Kenliero]

No no no.... it's when you select a lonely Battleship as your target with planes. You send your planes there from almost other side of the map,  You put your planes to both sides of your victim, in order to prepare a cross drop and when you are finally close enough to execute it, you go for it, and after you did your drop, you also see allied torpedos going towards that target.... and after your kill, some ally DD starts whining how it was his kill all than time, even though you started your attack over 4 minutes ago...

 

See how it works both ways? ;)

[Kenliero]

If I see torpedos going to LIKELY HIT a target I don't attack it as CV, as that would be a waste of damage potential. Though, if it looks like only 1-2 torps or none will hit I usually attack anyway, because the attack might just make more torpedos of the DD hit and if not, it's not really damage wasted.

 

It's simply not very effective to attack a DDs target. So I don't know why so many other CVs don't pay attention to that.

 

Contrary to what Ascender said, from top down it's much EASIER to see what a DD is targeting and if he will hit or not.

 

Yep.

If it's obvious that he has a good chance of killing that enemy, I always choose another target and let him kill it. It is just more effective that way.

 

[Userext]

No no no.... it's when you select a lonely Battleship as your target with planes. You send your planes there from almost other side of the map,  You put your planes to both sides of your victim, in order to prepare a cross drop and when you are finally close enough to execute it, you go for it, and after you did your drop, you also see allied torpedos going towards that target.... and after your kill, some ally DD starts whining how it was his kill all than time, even though you started your attack over 4 minutes ago...

 

See how it works both ways? ;)

 

Yeah DDs can totally change the direction of their torpedoes. Its just we are lazy.

It doesnt work both ways.

[Kenliero]

 

Yeah DDs can totally change the direction of their torpedoes. Its just we are lazy.

It doesnt work both ways.

 

Yes it works both ways.

If I am not seeing torpedoes already going his way and also sure that they actually hit, I will kill that enemy myself.

I simply don't trust other people to do their job. Specially if that battleship is near me.

 

It needs to be guaranteed kill, before I take my planes elsewhere.

[ArtyIsWorseThanCorona]

If I see torpedos going to LIKELY HIT a target I don't attack it as CV, as that would be a waste of damage potential. Though, if it looks like only 1-2 torps or none will hit I usually attack anyway, because the attack might just make more torpedos of the DD hit and if not, it's not really damage wasted.

 

It's simply not very effective to attack a DDs target. So I don't know why so many other CVs don't pay attention to that.

 

Contrary to what Ascender said, from top down it's much EASIER to see what a DD is targeting and if he will hit or not.

 

Same for me, but when I see a DD launching his torps on like the maximum range of like 15km or 20km like kagero, then I don´t care. Use your camo as DD and give those torps a short travel time and dont use your maximum range srsly...

[Userext]

 

Yes it works both ways.

If I am not seeing torpedoes already going his way and also sure that they actually hit, I will kill that enemy myself.

I simply don't trust other people to do their job. Specially if that battleship is near me.

 

It needs to be guaranteed kill, before I take my planes elsewhere.

 

when your planes gets spotted there is a %99 chance those torpedoes will miss. It doesnt work both ways.

[Kenliero]

 

when your planes gets spotted there is a %99 chance those torpedoes will miss. It doesnt work both ways.

 

You are one of those players who think you have your own kills and own enemies in the game, and others are not allowed to touch them.

 

I have news for you, it doesn't work that way. If you're too slow in killing stuff, you just don't kill stuff. I'm not waiting for you to kill stuff, if we are in the same game.

I will only back off, if your torps are clearly going to hit him, and if he is the last survivor in the game, I'm going to go and kill him before you, simply because I was faster.

 

[Userext]

 

You are one of those players who think you have your own kills and own enemies in the game, and others are not allowed to touch them.

 

I have news for you, it doesn't work that way. If you're too slow in killing stuff, you just don't kill stuff. I'm not waiting for you to kill stuff, if we are in the same game.

I will only back off, if your torps are clearly going to hit him, and if he is the last survivor in the game, I'm going to go and kill him before you, simply because I was faster.

 

 

no i am not one of those players. When your planes get spotted that guy will avoid torpedoes. No matter how hard you tried not to malechickenblock when you decided to launch attack on the same ship a DD decided. DD will not hit his torpedoes. And has every right to be angry at you. You do know that TBs have like 8km spotting distance right? 

[Kenliero]

 

no i am not one of those players. When your planes get spotted that guy will avoid torpedoes. No matter how hard you tried not to malechickenblock when you decided to launch attack on the same ship a DD decided. DD will not hit his torpedoes. And has every right to be angry at you. You do know that TBs have like 8km spotting distance right? 

 

According to that logic, every time DD is in 10km radius of a battleship, carrier should send his planes away at least 8km.... just for you.... Well, like I said, it doesn't work that way. Tough luck. Get used to planes taking "your" kills.

The only way you get kills, is by being faster and more effective.

 

I have a tip, choose Cruisers for your target. Carriers avoid them like plague.

[Userext]

 

According to that logic, every time DD is in 10km radius of a battleship, carrier should send his planes away at least 8km.... just for you.... Well, like I said, it doesn't work that way. Tough luck. Get used to planes taking "your" kills.

The only way you get kills, is by being faster and more effective.

 

I have a tip, choose Cruisers for your target. Carriers avoid them like plague.

 

No not everytime. Just check around him if there are torps in the water. You can see better the chances of those torps hitting.  I dont care about kills. I dont give a single damn about kills. Damage is more important for me. I cap i damage my team finishes them off

 

And with last line you show us your destroyer knowledge. You know there is a saying. If you take torpedo hit in battleship. Shame on you. If you take torpedo hit in cruiser stop playing

[Kenliero]

 

No not everytime. Just check around him if there are torps in the water. You can see better the chances of those torps hitting.  I dont care about kills. I dont give a single damn about kills. Damage is more important for me. I cap i damage my team finishes them off

 

And with last line you show us your destroyer knowledge. You know there is a saying. If you take torpedo hit in battleship. Shame on you. If you take torpedo hit in cruiser stop playing

 

I know Cruiser is much harder to hit, and more dangerous to you, but it also helps the team most.

 

Obviously, if I have 2 targets, and I see DD attacking one, I choose the other. Common sense in everything.

I always try to think what helps the team most, and killing Battleships first, helps team the least. Just by getting rid of Cruisers alone goes a long way towards victory. Cruisers are the only class carrier cant solo, because he runs out of planes due AA.

If we have 12 enemies and 4 of them are Cruisers, I more or less can kill 8 of them alone with carrier, if someone takes care of those cruisers. it is amazing how people don't get it how important it is to leave Battleships last, and first get rid of those AA ships. North Carolina etc. are of course exceptions

[Userext]

 

I know Cruiser is much harder to hit, and more dangerous to you, but it also helps the team most.

 

Obviously, if I have 2 targets, and I see DD attacking one, I choose the other. Common sense in everything.

I always try to think what helps the team most, and killing Battleships first, helps team the least. Just by getting rid of Cruisers alone goes a long way towards victory. Cruisers are the only class carrier cant solo, because he runs out of planes due AA.

If we have 12 enemies and 4 of them are Cruisers, I more or less can kill 8 of them alone with carrier, if someone takes care of those cruisers. it is amazing how people don't get it how important it is to leave Battleships last, and first get rid of those AA ships. North Carolina etc. are of course exceptions

 

I dont know if you are aware of the situation. If you paly cruiser and get hit by a DD torpedo. You need to stop playing. ITs not hard its nearly impossible unless enemy is super bad. No DD is going to go after CAs. They are our encounter thats like saying CAs should clear BBs first

[goodman528]

I find that in so many games, I launch a neat spread of torpedoes at a target, watch them on course to hit, and then out of the blue a so called friendly carrier thinks I'll attack that target. The target can see your planes way before they will see my torpedoes, and guess what? They target changes course to avoid the carrier attack, and the destroyers torpedoes miss. Just don't do it you muppets!

 

OK. But do remember to always launch a few torpedoes behind the target. Because this works both ways, I like to congratulate the BB captain on avoiding my TBs when he turns full on into a spread of ship launched torpedoes, I think it makes them quite angry.

[Kenliero]

 

I dont know if you are aware of the situation. If you paly cruiser and get hit by a DD torpedo. You need to stop playing. ITs not hard its nearly impossible unless enemy is super bad. No DD is going to go after CAs. They are our encounter thats like saying CAs should clear BBs first

 

I'm not talking about easiest kills, or about rock-paper-scissors scenario. I am talking about killing order that gives a WIN. In that killing order BB is killed last.

If everyone is just killing battleships in the beginning, in the end we have only the most dangerous classes left, which most likely will result to loss.

[Userext]

I'm not talking about easiest kills, or about rock-paper-scissors scenario. I am talking about killing order that gives a WIN. In that killing order BB is killed last.

If everyone is just killing battleships in the beginning, in the end we have only the most dangerous classes left, which most likely will result to loss.

 

And i am saying that what you think is BBs and CAs job. We destroyer captains simply can not hit cruisers unless they are really bad. "But that the way to wi--" i dont care. Nobody cares. If i can chose between killing a cow and killing a wendigo i will chose killing the cow.