Bonus EXP for expert player and TIPS ingame

[SoraB1ade]

I was asking myself from a while now, why don't give to expert player some bonus exp, for having most impact of the team in the actual match?

 

Something like, the 4 top players of each team (for XP gained, and NOT for kills) will get an exp boost for the next match of:

1st  - 0.8x

2nd - 0.7x

3th  - 0.6x

4th  - 0.5x

 

Why the first 4? Because 3 are fine for 10 players but a team have 12 players so 4 seems more legit imho.

This would be at least a good reason for each player to actually FIGHT instead of run (and i hope with brain) to have impact in the game and that would be best for himself and the team.

I don't think to be the only one bored of being almost everytime one of the best player in my team and, very often, lose because half of the team "magically" got rekt in the first 5 minutes of game, really, it's a total waste of time for those player ! AT LEAST reward them with something like this !

And please display some TIPS for each class, i'm tired of seeing players with BB totally waste a full salvo for an almost dead ship that you're attacking and they've never did!!! I mean, you need already 30s or even more to reload your guns, and you waste them to deal 1000dmg ? Seriously the exp you get at the end of the game is not based on number of kill but in damage dealt!!!! It's ok if you see someone that needs help, otherwise DON'T DO THAT, even if you see someone low healt in flames DON'T KS !    It's pointless.

Even DD and some cruisers do that by wasting all the torps for someone that is already going to die.

 

I hope someone will appreciate this idea.

 

Good weekend to all !

[Syrchalis]

Meh, best players already get most XP and credits.

 

I would much rather see an increase in rewards for capping and de-capping.

[Userext]

 

Good players will always receive the exp and credit they deserve.

[GulvkluderGuld]

Meh, best players already get most XP and credits.

 

I would much rather see an increase in rewards for capping and de-capping.

 

yep

[Sake78]

Quoting Storm: And if all teams suck equally, they will give prizes for incompetence. As the 2 posters above me underlined - who deserves more xp will get it nonetheless.

[Flavio1997]

Ok, right.

1) your idea is not that bad, because in this way you will encourage everyone  to play at their  best ( even though,  some rocket science  here,with the multiplier you put you are actually decreasing  the exp income, it should be 1.5-1.6 etc) but on the other hand you will see more kill stealing ( it gives you exp)

2) it will led everyone to focus on dds, as they'll  became xp piñata  ( easy to kill and remember that the damage/xp ratio is considered  by the amount of % of hp of the enemy, not the hp itself) and playing  them will became even  more frustrating 

3) good player already  have more exp than the other, your idea would be good for good player, but on the other end more frustrating for worst one and will lead to some hate and more toxic  behaviour and it will lead in some sort of " inequity " and "discrimination " that wg want to avoid as it would be the death of the game.

4) last, but not the least,  I'm  sorry, i don't  think that with 46% wr and 1400 avg exp you are "almost every time on the top list" and you are also a cv player. 

For the tips, there are plenty of  threads  in the forum, search is your friend

[cherry2blost]

I was asking myself from a while now, why don't give to expert player some bonus exp, for having most impact of the team in the actual match?

 

Something like, the 4 top players of each team (for XP gained, and NOT for kills) will get an exp boost for the next match of:

1st  - 0.8x

2nd - 0.7x

3th  - 0.6x

4th  - 0.5x

 

Why the first 4? Because 3 are fine for 10 players but a team have 12 players so 4 seems more legit imho.

This would be at least a good reason for each player to actually FIGHT instead of run (and i hope with brain) to have impact in the game and that would be best for himself and the team.

I don't think to be the only one bored of being almost everytime one of the best player in my team and, very often, lose because half of the team "magically" got rekt in the first 5 minutes of game, really, it's a total waste of time for those player ! AT LEAST reward them with something like this !

 

And please display some TIPS for each class, i'm tired of seeing players with BB totally waste a full salvo for an almost dead ship that you're attacking and they've never did!!! I mean, you need already 30s or even more to reload your guns, and you waste them to deal 1000dmg ? Seriously the exp you get at the end of the game is not based on number of kill but in damage dealt!!!! It's ok if you see someone that needs help, otherwise DON'T DO THAT, even if you see someone low healt in flames DON'T KS !    It's pointless.

Even DD and some cruisers do that by wasting all the torps for someone that is already going to die.

 

I hope someone will appreciate this idea.

 

Good weekend to all !

 

Nice idea but it could be worked out even more differently....

 

1st  Plus 80%

2nd Plus 70%

3rd  Plus 60%

4th  Plus 50%

 

Last Minus 80%

2nd to last Minus 70%

3rd from last Minus 60%

4th From Last Minus 50%

 

That way it's more fair and even ;)

[Sharana]

I don't think good players need bonus exp. But it will be very good if the best players from the losing team get the x1.5 multiplier as if they've won. It's really frustrating when you have great game and you lose it. In WoT you need epic medeal, so for example if you win High calibre or Confederate and you lose you will still get the x1.5 multiplier and the exp/credits will be as much as they would've been if you've won.

 

I would much rather see an increase in rewards for capping and de-capping.

You mean add it, because there are no rewards for capping/de-capping in domination games (where it really matters). Should come together with the spotting exp as "assist".

 

[Admiral_noodle]

I don't think good players need bonus exp. But it will be very good if the best players from the losing team get the x1.5 multiplier as if they've won. It's really frustrating when you have great game and you lose it. In WoT you need epic medeal, so for example if you win High calibre or Confederate and you lose you will still get the x1.5 multiplier and the exp/credits will be as much as they would've been if you've won.

 

You mean add it, because there are no rewards for capping/de-capping in domination games (where it really matters). Should come together with the spotting exp as "assist".

 

 

Yes. Don't punish bad/reward good players any more than at present. But this I love. Come top loser still get X1.5 

[OldGrandad]

I don't think good players need bonus exp. But it will be very good if the best players from the losing team get the x1.5 multiplier as if they've won. It's really frustrating when you have great game and you lose it. In WoT you need epic medeal, so for example if you win High calibre or Confederate and you lose you will still get the x1.5 multiplier and the exp/credits will be as much as they would've been if you've won.

 

This plus 1. Many lost battles where I would have appeared in the top 3 of the winning team but rewarded with a wet fish slapped in my face 

[Kenliero]

Nothing is more frustrating, than to see your whole team chase the enemy to the end of the map, sailing away from caps, when caps are marked for enemy, to kill enemies, just to lose with points, because enemy had them caps all than time...

 

Meaning... capping should give more XP, so that people can understand what Dominion mode is about.

[Philipp_ab_exterminatore]

Yes please

 

[SoraB1ade]

Ok, right.

1) your idea is not that bad, because in this way you will encourage everyone  to play at their  best ( even though,  some rocket science  here,with the multiplier you put you are actually decreasing  the exp income, it should be 1.5-1.6 etc) but on the other hand you will see more kill stealing ( it gives you exp)

2) it will led everyone to focus on dds, as they'll  became xp piñata  ( easy to kill and remember that the damage/xp ratio is considered  by the amount of % of hp of the enemy, not the hp itself) and playing  them will became even  more frustrating 

3) good player already  have more exp than the other, your idea would be good for good player, but on the other end more frustrating for worst one and will lead to some hate and more toxic  behaviour and it will lead in some sort of " inequity " and "discrimination " that wg want to avoid as it would be the death of the game.

4) last, but not the least,  I'm  sorry, i don't  think that with 46% wr and 1400 avg exp you are "almost every time on the top list" and you are also a cv player. 

5) For the tips, there are plenty of  threads  in the forum, search is your friend

 

1) bonus exp mean this  YOUR EXP  +  exp bonus with "x" multiplier ( it's not "some rocket science  here", it's just math , and that's what bonus mean ) and ks don't give you so much exp (maybe 100xp?) deal dmg do.

2) that should be normal in every match DD focus BB, BB focus C, C focus DD and right now it's not normal looking at cruisers totally ignoring dd

3) true, agree, so nvm.

4) ehi, i get that you've 61% wr and 2,667 avg exp... still... fly down . First, i didn't said "i'm almost every time the top player" but like you've even quoted "almost every time on the top list" (top list = first 3 places) and those are 2 different things, and second, just because i'm a cv player that don't make me a better nor a worse player.

5) i'm not searching for tips, i've just proposed to add them ingame for the reasons explained in the first post.

 

Sharana, on 12 September 2015 - 05:13 PM, said:

I don't think good players need bonus exp. But it will be very good if the best players from the losing team get the x1.5 multiplier as if they've won. It's really frustrating when you have great game and you lose it. In WoT you need epic medeal, so for example if you win High calibre or Confederate and you lose you will still get the x1.5 multiplier and the exp/credits will be as much as they would've been if you've won.

 

Syrchalis, on 12 September 2015 - 03:24 PM, said:

 

I would much rather see an increase in rewards for capping and de-capping.

 

You mean add it, because there are no rewards for capping/de-capping in domination games (where it really matters). Should come together with the spotting exp as "assist".

 

 

This plus 1. Many lost battles where I would have appeared in the top 3 of the winning team but rewarded with a wet fish slapped in my face 

 

Yes. Don't punish/reward bad/good players any more than at present. But this I love. Come top loser still get X1.5 

 

+1 that would be fair 

[Siagor]

As many times before: the first from the losing team should have full reward.

[Syrchalis]

There should be a more intelligent system to determine who on the losing side deserves the full reward. Maybe two did really well and one simply has 1 XP more and just because of that the other gets much less?

[Tugnut]

Bottom 4 get a - xp boost next game    and wile i am thinking about it team killers get pink ships that can be seen 30k away.

[Luckyio]

Meh, best players already get most XP and credits.

 

I would much rather see an increase in rewards for capping and de-capping.

 

No they don't. CVs get the most XP bonus and credits, skill be damned. The only exception is truly atrocious players, the kinds that in other ships just die first with no real impact on the enemy team. Those usually end up in the middle of the pack when playing CVs.

 

And that's why OP's suggestion is patently absurd. He may as well call it what it would be - a "losing CV reward", as in most cases, that's where the reward would go to. Considering that CVs are already massive outliers when it comes to EXP gain and if anything need it reduced, this suggestion is counterproductive.

[Syrchalis]

 

No they don't. CVs get the most XP bonus and credits, skill be damned. The only exception is truly atrocious players, the kinds that in other ships just die first with no real impact on the enemy team. Those usually end up in the middle of the pack when playing CVs.

 

And that's why OP's suggestion is patently absurd. He may as well call it what it would be - a "losing CV reward", as in most cases, that's where the reward would go to. Considering that CVs are already massive outliers when it comes to EXP gain and if anything need it reduced, this suggestion is counterproductive.

 

So why not support my suggestion then? I want XP boni for capping and decapping, something CVs are exceptionally bad at and other ships can do with ease.

[Kenliero]

 

So why not support my suggestion then? I want XP boni for capping and decapping, something CVs are exceptionally bad at and other ships can do with ease.

 

But... but.... then he would have to agree with CV player... 

[Gunship14]

Nothing is more frustrating, than to see your whole team chase the enemy to the end of the map, sailing away from caps, when caps are marked for enemy, to kill enemies, just to lose with points, because enemy had them caps all than time...

 

Meaning... capping should give more XP, so that people can understand what Dominion mode is about.

 

I had a game where an aoba and a north carolina chased an atago all the way to the corner of the map. Not only that, the aoba died, and the North Carolina lost half its health, while the enemy atago was skating along the border. Just so frustrating...

[Luckyio]

 

So why not support my suggestion then? I want XP boni for capping and decapping, something CVs are exceptionally bad at and other ships can do with ease.

 

Because capping is not a main thing in the game, and would encourage games where people will break formation apart in rushing points, exposing themselves to CVs even more than they are right now. Which will buff CV exp and damage.

[Ascender]

We'll see how/if they ever expand these missions they put up.

 

I can easily see a mission with something like "Score in the top 3 on your team 10 times" to get a certain reward (something better than the current 30k credits which is totally meaningless lol, unless you do like 20 of those missions). This would basically complete the OP's idea of rewarding top players without giving them a straight-up unfair consistent advantage in progression.

 

Personally I don't need to get more exp when being in the top 4, I would rather I wasn't in the top 4 because that means the rest of the team actually did something!

[Syrchalis]

 

Because capping is not a main thing in the game, and would encourage games where people will break formation apart in rushing points, exposing themselves to CVs even more than they are right now. Which will buff CV exp and damage.

 

Right now the problem is people ignore caps completely and don't give a damn about winning, because of the KILL KILL KILL mentality.

 

I knew you would find a twisted and ridiculous way to turn my completely solid suggestion into something that somehow arbitrarily buffs CVs.

[LittleNipper]

i would give more medals like in WOT.... citadel hits, 4 kills, ace kills etc....   sometimes you kill 4 ships and don't even get a medal.....  ok you get the credis, but a medal would also be fair.

 

Not to say when i defend a carrier, shoot down a squadron of torps bommers and by the time i get back into battle and we win get a miserable ex score because the logics of the game don't keep in consideration that defending carrier can really help team to win.... but you do not get experience for that.

[Syrchalis]

Fighter XP being low is ok, but cruisers really should get a lot more for AA defense, as this is their main purpose in WGs eyes.