Too many islands?

[Humbug_1]

Or not?

 

For me its too much, most of the maps are divided up into ponds between land masses, there is so much land around your only able to target ships in-between pinholes of the land masses, not to mention the fact that you spend more time looking at landmasses to avoid getting beached than you do targeting, because if you do get beached you are a sitting duck for 2 minutes, which may not seem like a lot but its more than enough to lose you your life from full health in even the most heavily armoured ships.

 

I understand the need for putting obstacles in the way but this just seems to be done crudely to drag the game time out by stopping any prolonged action taking place.

 

And whats with putting BB's closes to the most land congested area at the start? a BB is no good to anyone in a pond surrounded by 300m high mountains, it just makes you have to move from one side of the map to the other before you can push forward in the slowest ships in the game.

[xCaptainObviousx]

With the exception of Solomon Islands and that one older map that I never remember the name of (possibly Twin Brothers too, but you get a lot of action there), I don't have any issues with the amount of landmass despite playing BBs a lot. The islands force you to think ahead and spend your time effectively.

 

I get the distinct feeling of that what you want is to be able to sit at 20 km all game and shoot at all targets without cover on every map. While that sounds great in theory, you can just take a look at the Ocean map: Everybody hugs the map borders since there is no way to close the distance or break off from an engagment.

 

Think about how you can use the landmasses to your advantage instead of how they ruin your original plan and I think you'll do fine 

[IamTroublemaker]

Yeah, all maps should be just water, nerf DDs even more

 

 

Just no...

 

If i can picture every map in my head right now, I would say 99% of maps (except Ocean) are approximately 60% ocean (or even 70%) and 40% land which is fine.

I'm guessing you prefer BBs the most (because I don't see why would a CA or DD captain whine about things that save his life) and it bothers you that you cannot target all the opponents all the time? Well guess what, it's called balance, and is also the way it should just be!

My no. 1 most hated map is Ocean! You know why? Because you can't tactically outmaneuver (outbrain) your opponent.

 

Also, adding islands makes this game more demanding, dynamic and tactical because it makes you have to concentrate on a couple of things at the same time and think how to outbrain your opponent , also to tactically plan your route probably one of the biggest factors that determines how good your battle will be (at least in my opinion).

 

Islands is what saves you from being hit, use them as your cover, or to surprise your opponent by a couple of torps (or guns) and they are there for everyone, not just for the opponent to "hide"

 

You can't whine about islands because you should also be able to use your brain a bit and try to outsmart your opponent if he is using islands for cover all the time (I love seeing opponents like that in my DDs) and than they would probably be writing topics like this

 

Oh I could write a wall of text right now, but cba to do it atm, anyway, if its too hard for you to focus on 2-3 things (instead of just sailing straight and clicking like a braindead zombie) than this game is not for you I believe...

[nervousfrog]

No it's just fine.

 

72% of your games are in battleships I think your viewpoint may be slightly biased.

 

Not saying that mine is not

[Humbug_1]

Can you chose what maps 'not to play' in this game, IE remove them from the random selection

[xCaptainObviousx]

Can you chose what maps 'not to play' in this game, IE remove them from the random selection

 

Nope, people have been asking for that for the last 4 years. WG doesn't believe in player choises.

[OldGrandad]

It is absolutely fine as it is, why select what maps you want? Some maps suit different types of ship, accept it. Next question will be to have maps devoid of certain classes!

[Jaeger_Bomb_Meister]

Can you chose what maps 'not to play' in this game, IE remove them from the random selection

 

Wouldn't be very Random if you could do that......lol....

[Humbug_1]

 

Nope, people have been asking for that for the last 4 years. WG doesn't believe in player choises.

 

I suppose if they gave you a choice BB users would play on land congested maps and DD players wouldn't play on open water maps, they obviously think thats a bad thing.

[Humbug_1]

It is absolutely fine as it is, why select what maps you want? Some maps suit different types of ship, accept it. Next question will be to have maps devoid of certain classes!

 

Do i really have to explain that to you? its an odd attitude to dislike choice that's for sure.

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

I suppose if they gave you a choice BB users would play on land congested maps and DD players wouldn't play on open water maps, they obviously think thats a bad thing.

 

I hate open water when I play BBs, I would deselect Ocean straight away since it's a [edited] campfest.

 

EDIT: You know WHY I hate open water in a BB? Because a BB have no camo to speak of and is permanently spotted, which means that I would be under constant fire at ALL times without a chance to regroup or isolate targets.

[Jagdpants_666]

 

No it's just fine.

 

72% of your games are in battleships I think your viewpoint may be slightly biased.

 

Not saying that mine is not

 

Yep, sounds like "wait, I thought I was gonna be invincible?" BB(Battleship Butthurt) to me. Frankly, I'm rubbish at battleships myself, but that's no fault of the maps - most of the time it's just me either not paying enough attention or sailing myself into bad spots. If you know there's a destroyer or torpedo-armed cruiser in the area, why do you squeeze yourself in between islands/through a strait where you cannot possibly make evasive maneuvers?

 

And yeah, everyone's biased. That's just a part of being human. Everyone has their own idea about how the game should play - if WG were to pander to every request/complaint, the end result would be a game where you get to control one out of two rubber ducks in a bucket and land yourself a one-year ban if you happen to bump into one another.

[Kenliero]

At least they should nerf speed of those islands...

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

 

Yep, sounds like "wait, I thought I was gonna be invincible?" BB(Battleship Butthurt) to me. Frankly, I'm rubbish at battleships myself, but that's no fault of the maps - most of the time it's just me either not paying enough attention or sailing myself into bad spots. If you know there's a destroyer or torpedo-armed cruiser in the area, why do you squeeze yourself in between islands/through a strait where you cannot possibly make evasive maneuvers?

 

And yeah, everyone's biased. That's just a part of being human. Everyone has their own idea about how the game should play - if WG were to pander to every request/complaint, the end result would be a game where you get to control one out of two rubber ducks in a bucket and land yourself a one-year ban if you happen to bump into one another.

 

You are talking about a guy who averages 11k dmg in the St Louis. Need I say more?

[Jagdpants_666]

 

You are talking about a guy who averages 11k dmg in the St Louis. Need I say more?

 

I am myself hardly a good player in any class, but I don't usually try to blame my shortcomings on anyone and anything but myself. When I fail spectacularly it's usually down to eiher a) me being stupid/brave/inattentive, b) the enemy simply being better, or c) a combination of the above, with a bit of blind luck thrown into the mix.

 

In any case, the amount of islands/land masses on most maps is fine as the way it is. I have a newfound obsession with US destroyers, so for me, there could very well be more islands and cover to sneak around, but that's just not how the world works.

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

I am myself hardly a good player in any class, but I don't usually try to blame my shortcomings on anyone and anything but myself. When I fail spectacularly it's usually down to eiher a) me being stupid/brave/inattentive, b) the enemy simply being better, or c) a combination of the above, with a bit of blind luck thrown into the mix.

 

In any case, the amount of islands/land masses on most maps is fine as the way it is. I have a newfound obsession with US destroyers, so for me, there could very well be more islands and cover to sneak around, but that's just not how the world works.

 

You have the right mindset, I think you'll become an excellent player in time 

[Flavio1997]

 

I am myself hardly a good player in any class, but I don't usually try to blame my shortcomings on anyone and anything but myself. When I fail spectacularly it's usually down to eiher a) me being stupid/brave/inattentive, b) the enemy simply being better, or c) a combination of the above, with a bit of blind luck thrown into the mix.

 

In any case, the amount of islands/land masses on most maps is fine as the way it is. I have a newfound obsession with US destroyers, so for me, there could very well be more islands and cover to sneak around, but that's just not how the world works.

+1 for you, i hope with all my will that more players  would have your mindset, and you know what? Is the best way to became a good player

[Jagdpants_666]

My overall performance I'd probably call "mediocre" at best, I just don't see any point in placing blame left and right. If my torps miss it's not because the game's broken, it's because I haven't learned to use them or the guy I'm shooting at has learned how to avoid them. And if there's an island in the way of your target it's because he's learned how to use that island and you have not. It was there all along, what more do you need? A huge sign on top of it reading "NOTICE: NON-PENETRABLE ISLAND"?

 

Of course I have my "WTF game/player, seriously?" moments as well, I'll imagine everyone does. Still, one doesn't always have to spam every little gripe over chats and forums that are already soaked in general moaning and bickering. Two skills that sadly won't win you any points in the game is "admitting that sometimes you're wrong" and "letting it f***ing go" - still, they're good skills to practice.

[Humbug_1]

Is there anyone on this forum older than 12? Hyper emotional split personalities all over this forum, one post they are stating the obvious (which ironically is there-in not obvious to them) the next post is in some way reasonable and constructive and then the next post reads like an emotional breakdown, the next is circle jerking over stats.

4 distinct personalities in 4 posts, how many people do you guys need to impress? do you need everyone to be your friend?

I don't remember adolescents being quite that bad.

 

Its very amusing to read but also a bit of a choir to trawl through to get to anything intelligent and worthwhile.

[Mormaz]

Bha, with Global warming, lots of islands will disapear.

Problem solved.

 

 

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Oh wait. My Trolling time is about to expire.

[Humbug_1]

Bha, with Global warming, lots of islands will disapear.

Problem solved.

 

 

...

 

 

 

 

Oh wait. My Trolling time is about to expire.

 

[Pardinas_82]

I play mostly BB, and I think this is [edited].

 

Ocean is the most boring map ever.

[Humbug_1]

I play mostly BB, and I think this is [edited].

 

Ocean is the most boring map ever.

 

 Yeah i hate Ocean, its probably the only map i quit out of as soon as i see it load up.

 

Ctrl+F4

[deathrow222]

 

I hate open water when I play BBs, I would deselect Ocean straight away since it's a [edited] campfest.

 

and what do we get with all those islands? idd i get more and more battles where most of them camp behind those [edited]islands, does that sound like how sea battles should be fought? camping and peek a bo behind those islands?

 

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

 Yeah i hate Ocean, its probably the only map i quit out of as soon as i see it load up.

 

Ctrl+F4

 

Well, that's a lot of help for your team.

 

*Long Elaborate rant about learning to play*

Let's skip that, shall we?

 

Many of us don't have any issue with the abundance of landmass on the maps and we think that maybe you should adjust to the game rather than the game adjusting to you.

 

You are just like the other noob....

NO! I'm not going there.... 

 

EDIT:

 

and what do we get with all those islands? idd i get more and more battles where most of them camp behind those [edited]islands, does that sound like how sea battles should be fought? camping and peek a bo behind those islands?

 

Have you played above tier 3?