World of Warships [Why doesn't the Tirpitz get the 58x 20mm Flak 30 mod? I m wondering because it isn't added in game.

[Killbas1999A]

So i have been looking at the tirpitz its stats, and i see that something is missing in its AA defence.

Its missing the 58x 20mm Flak 30 AA guns modification.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_battleship_Tirpitz

[praetor_jax]

Should end up being the final setup of the Bismarck-class in the regular tech tree.

[Armo1000]

So i have been looking at the tirpitz its stats, and i see that something is missing in its AA defence.

Its missing the 58x 20mm Flak 30 AA guns modification.

Source: http://warthunder.com/en/registration?r=userinvite_6545356

 

Why is the link just for War Thunder? you trolling.

[Killbas1999A]

But why doesnt the tirpitz get it then? Since it was on the tirpitz

 

[Killbas1999A]

 

Why is the link just for War Thunder? you trolling.

 

Sorry, wrong link. It's changed now

[Mister_Greek]

For the same reason IJN Yamato doesnt receive the last 1945 refit with 170 AA batteries.....

 

Too much,too much!

[Killbas1999A]

For the same reason IJN Yamato doesnt receive the last 1945 refit with 170 AA batteries.....

 

Too much,too much!

 

Still should be on the ship :p. As it was part of the ship 

[praetor_jax]

But why doesnt the tirpitz get it then? Since it was on the tirpitz

 

The premium ship needs to be inferior to the regular ship (at least thats how it should work *glances at Murmansk*). Also Tirpitz needs some sort of weakness

[bismark121]

neither has the nagato that should have a load more (a thread was made on the us forrum about it) and the aa gun on the turret of the tirpitz isn't counted as an aa piece therefore meaning that it doesnt work.

[Takeda92]

Many ships already missing many of their armament that they had irl.. Tirpitz is no special. It's too much of a good ship for a premium in the first place.

[Nechrom]

For the same reason IJN Yamato doesnt receive the last 1945 refit with 170 AA batteries.....

 

Too much,too much!

 

I want the last Kongo refit with 12 x 127mm and 122 x 25mm AA. 

[Killbas1999A]

Then i hope they will atleast put it on the bismarck in the regular tree.

[WolfGewehr]

For the same reason IJN Yamato doesnt receive the last 1945 refit with 170 AA batteries.....

 

Too much,too much!

 

Wait, there could be more AA on Yamato? I want them!! Need more dakka!!

[Takeda92]

 

Wait, there could be more AA on Yamato? I want them!! Need more dakka!!

 

Not just Yamato, but Kongou, Fusou and Nagato as well. Devs said they won't get them because of balance reasons.

[bismark121]

 

Not just Yamato, but Kongou, Fusou and Nagato as well. Devs said they won't get them because of balance reasons.

 

and amagi

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

I want the last Kongo refit with 12 x 127mm and 122 x 25mm AA. 

 

It had that during the alpha (or at least during the weekend tests), no t5 or 6 carrier could even get close to it, let alone drop any torps.

[Takeda92]

 

and amagi

 

Well Amagi wasn't even completed as a battlecruiser let alone being converted into a battleships. So we don't know what kind of AA it had irl!

[Killbas1999A]

They better give the bismarck those 58x 20mm guns then or atleast somewhat of those 58

[bismark121]

 

Well Amagi wasn't even completed as a battlecruiser let alone being converted into a battleships. So we don't know what kind of AA it had irl!

 

well fore a start it was supposed to have aa on the turrrets and im sure design plans can be found

[warlock07rox]

 

Not just Yamato, but Kongou, Fusou and Nagato as well. Devs said they won't get them because of balance reasons.

 

Lol makes me laugh ever time ppl mention balance in this game I definitely would love to see some balance

[WolfGewehr]

 

Not just Yamato, but Kongou, Fusou and Nagato as well. Devs said they won't get them because of balance reasons.

 

I just like AA guns ingame so much that I want to have them all (Weirdo )  Srly I didn't think to get those additional guns on board. But lets calculate for fun:

 

Currently Yamato's small caliber AA is 46*3=138x 25mm guns with dps of 368 (IIRC).

So with 170x 25mm's small caliber dps would be (presumably) (368/138)*170= ~ 453. Add 127mm to it and it is about 520-530. Still about 100 dps lower than current Montana.

 

Just don't misunderstood me guys, I'm not ranting for more AA, just speculating with AA dps in what if situation.

[Killbas1999A]

Yep, thats why bismarck or tirpitz should get the 58x 20mm flak 30 gun mod. Wont make the AA DPS that much better. it will just give it a little boost

 

[Boevebeest]

Very simple.

 

Game balance, that's why.

Does the Bismarck get them? Who knows.

One thing I do know, WG always makes their premium ships worse than the same tier counterparts.

[Userext]

Yamato had 161 25mm AA guns installed in 1945 but we dont see that in game. balance problems

[Gatt]

If all high Tier IJN BB did not get the right set of AA guns I highly doubt that the Bismark will. Balance?