Proposed British Aircraft Carrier Branch

[Hanszeehock]

I was talking to a friend on TS the other day and he said there were not enough British Carriers to make a full branch. I knew this was wrong so did some research and came up with my own Branch. My ideas differ a bit from mr3awsome's What we know about ships thread, but this is what I would like to see :

 

Tier 4 : HMS Eagle (1924)

 

 

 

Tier 5 : HMS Glorious

 

 

 

Tier 6 : HMS Ark Royal (1938)

 

 

 

Tier 7 : HMS Indomitable

 

 

 

Tier 8 : HMS Indefatigable

 

 

 

Tier 9 : HMS Eagle (1951)

 

 

 

Tier 10 : HMS Malta (the only 'paper ship' although the four ships of the class were actually ordered in 1943)

 

 

 

I've based my branch on ships I actually like and basically tiered them according to hanger capacity. Grateful for constructive feedback 

[Andreevson]

Looks good but then again, I'm no CV Expert. Then again the brits should be able to have a full CV line as they had a lot of CVs.

[GunnyL]

nice research, I look forward to the Royal Navy

[imply_tha_best]

I didnt know the HMS Malta had an angled flightdeck. Looks nice, although I think that the Ark royal at T6 might be a bit too strong...

[Hanszeehock]

I didnt know the HMS Malta had an angled flightdeck. Looks nice, although I think that the Ark royal at T6 might be a bit too strong...

 

An alternative would be to start with HMS Furious at T4 and bump everything up a tier and lose HMS Indomitable from the branch :

 

 

 

[Getzamatic]

I expect the Line will start with Argus or Hermes and then go on to Eagle.  Argus was roughly equivalent to Langley, whereas Hermes was very similar to Hosho.  Eagle carried about 50% more aircraft than any of these ships but about the same as Ryujo and Bogue  Meanwhile. the Glorious was a fleet carrier (albeit an early one) and carried about twice as many aircraft as the tier V ships so would probably be at tier VI.  

 

My guess would be;

Tier IV:  Argus

Tier V:  Eagle

Tier VI:  Courageous

Tier VII:  Colossus

Tier VIII:  Ark Royal

Tier IX:  Implacable

Tier X:  Malta

 

The line is relatively chronological with only the Colossus out of sequence.  The Aircraft capacity keeps going up (which is why I skipped the Illustrious class) and only Malta is a paper ship.  A fundamental feature of all RN carriers would be virtually no self defence weapons against surface threats, but really good AA from tier V onwards - perhaps even the defensive fire cooldown at high tiers - because RN carriers were designed to provide AA support to other surface units.

[Richard_V]

I'm afraid somebody mentioned that angled decks are no go for WoWs.

[imply_tha_best]

I'm afraid somebody mentioned that angled decks are no go for WoWs.

 

Ive seen the HMS Malta with a straight flight deck. So the Malta can still be ingame.

 

[Getzamatic]

 

An alternative would be to start with HMS Furious at T4 and bump everything up a tier and lose HMS Indomitable from the branch :

 

 

 

 

A 30 knot fleet carrier with as many guns as a Kuma and 36 aircraft at tier IV?  Yes please!

 

Furious would probably be a better fit as a premium Tier V ship.  She was more capable than Eagle but less so than her half sisters.

[Synth_FG]

Habakkuk for T10

[DtXpwnz]

Nicely done, but just so you know what it takes to create a tree, I suggest you to read this series: http://ritastatusreport.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/so-you-want-to-build-wot-tech-tree-cz.html

And keep in mind that creating a tank model is approximately 100x easier than creating ship mode. Not to mention that you need blueprints, detailed info about armor scheme, propulsion, armament, etc. Figure out "stock" and "elite" modules, etc.

[Hanszeehock]

I expect the Line will start with Argus or Hermes and then go on to Eagle.  Argus was roughly equivalent to Langley, whereas Hermes was very similar to Hosho.  Eagle carried about 50% more aircraft than any of these ships but about the same as Ryujo and Bogue  Meanwhile. the Glorious was a fleet carrier (albeit an early one) and carried about twice as many aircraft as the tier V ships so would probably be at tier VI.  

 

My guess would be;

Tier IV:  Argus

Tier V:  Eagle

Tier VI:  Courageous

Tier VII:  Colossus

Tier VIII:  Ark Royal

Tier IX:  Implacable

Tier X:  Malta

 

The line is relatively chronological with only the Colossus out of sequence.  The Aircraft capacity keeps going up (which is why I skipped the Illustrious class) and only Malta is a paper ship.  A fundamental feature of all RN carriers would be virtually no self defence weapons against surface threats, but really good AA from tier V onwards - perhaps even the defensive fire cooldown at high tiers - because RN carriers were designed to provide AA support to other surface units.

 

I thought about Argus, but her loadout is really low and I think she is just a bit too early for T4. As I mentioned, the tree is actually more based on my personal favourites !!!

[Hanszeehock]

Nicely done, but just so you know what it takes to create a tree, I suggest you to read this series: http://ritastatusreport.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/so-you-want-to-build-wot-tech-tree-cz.html

And keep in mind that creating a tank model is approximately 100x easier than creating ship mode. Not to mention that you need blueprints, detailed info about armor scheme, propulsion, armament, etc. Figure out "stock" and "elite" modules, etc.

 

Thanks. Must admit I have zero interest in tanks, and just seeing the name Silentstalker is enough to make me stop reading !!!!

[T0byJug]

I would like to see HMS Hermes first my Grandfather served on her But also she was the first carrier in the world to be laid down! (was not first launched)

so would be the perfect entry Level ship! 

 

All previeas CV's were converted from other classes

[Getzamatic]

I would like to see HMS Hermes first my Grandfather served on her But also she was the first carrier in the world to be laid down! (was not first launched)

so would be the perfect entry Level ship! 

 

All previeas CV's were converted from other classes

 

I too would love to see Hermes at Tier IV.  Not only is she a better ship than Argus, she's also a much better looking ship than Argus...

[T0byJug]

The line is relatively chronological with only the Colossus out of sequence.  The Aircraft capacity keeps going up (which is why I skipped the Illustrious class) and only Malta is a paper ship.  A fundamental feature of all RN carriers would be virtually no self defence weapons against surface threats, but really good AA from tier V onwards - perhaps even the defensive fire cooldown at high tiers - because RN carriers were designed to provide AA support to other surface units.

Early RN carriers had a pretty good self defence

 

Hermies= 6 5.5inch and 4 4inch DP guns

HMS Eagle= 9 6inch and 5 4inch DP guns

 

Much much better than the early Japanes or American ships

 

 

An alternative would be to start with HMS Furious at T4 and bump everything up a tier and lose HMS Indomitable from the branch :

 

 

 

HMS  Furious and HMS Courageous are basicly the same Class, though Furious earler convertion  ment she carried a smaller Air group

[Synth_FG]

Argus had a proud service history and deserves to be in the game, even if as a t III

then again there is an argument for starting most of the RN branches earlier than the US or IJN  

[Ascender]

I'm afraid somebody mentioned that angled decks are no go for WoWs.

 

Angled decks allow for landing and take-off to happen simultaneously, that's why they are a no go in WoWS.

[Getzamatic]

Early RN carriers had a pretty good self defence

 

Hermies= 6 5.5inch and 4 4inch DP guns

HMS Eagle= 9 6inch and 5 4inch DP guns

 

Much much better than the early Japanes or American ships

 

Yeah, I was really thinking about the later ships.

[Synth_FG]

RN Carriers also have armoured decks and should be much more resilient / less fire prone than their US and IJN equivalents, at the expense of a smaller air group 

[Battledragon]

This would be my suggested British carrier line:
IV: Argus
V Hermes                     (Premium:  Eagle (Ex Almirante Cochrane))
VI Furious
VII Illustrious                (Premium: Courageous)
VIII Ark Royal
IX Implacable
X Malta
The ships are arranged primarily by size of airgroup, so they grow in offensive power as you progress upwards.   Argus and Hermes are about the same size for air group, but Hermes was faster and a purpose built carrier while Argus was a converted Italian ocean liner which was uder construction in a British shipyard when the first world war started.

[Getzamatic]

Nicely done, but just so you know what it takes to create a tree, I suggest you to read this series: http://ritastatusreport.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/so-you-want-to-build-wot-tech-tree-cz.html

And keep in mind that creating a tank model is approximately 100x easier than creating ship mode. Not to mention that you need blueprints, detailed info about armor scheme, propulsion, armament, etc. Figure out "stock" and "elite" modules, etc.

 

But isn't this kinda beside the point?  We "know" that there will be a Royal Navy tree eventually - we're just speculating on what will be in it.  Personally I'm expecting a lot of "called it" threads in about 18 months time and I'll be damned if I don't pitch my hat into the ring for some of that action...  ;-)

[Hanszeehock]

 

I too would love to see Hermes at Tier IV.  Not only is she a better ship than Argus, she's also a much better looking ship than Argus...

 

Agree, very pretty

 

[T0byJug]

 

Agree, very pretty

 

yep enamy DD captains are so busy admiring her Beauty they get taken out by the 6 5.5 and 4 4 inch guns.....

[bismark121]

Also all of them have armoured decks so fire chances on them will have to be very low