The Colorado... seriously?

[Synth_FG]

Starting to like this thing now I've had a few games in the C hull, 

It's still slow, still turns like a pig, is still 4 guns short, still has terrible accuracy and striking power, 

however the mad amounts of aa somewhat make up for it, it's alot easier avoiding two or 3 air dropped torpedo's rather than 8 and sailing through a rain of burning aircraft is somewhat satisfying, 

[Lieutenant_Hubert_Gruber]

I love it.

 

AA is amazing!!! CV players who thinks that this ship is just another free kill bb are in for a big one.. Got aa mods plus cap skillsa and this beauty chews through airplains like a pitbull at a rabbit farm!

 

As a bb, I don't really feel any different from sailing the New Mex. I can kill a NM with no biggy unless he's a far better player than me, so I do feel that it is an upgrade.

 

Like I alredy mentioned, AA is amazing. Besides that, the guns are nice and I don't feel worthless vs cruisers nor destroyers, hence they will feel the pain if they get to close ..

 

Down sides are the low hp, some hits feels like citadel strikes, since the health bar drops faster than usual. Finally, the speed. Often when I see fellow colorado captains, they tend to hug the edges of the map, often seeing little action until they are the last ship in their fleet. You need to be where the action is, else you are just wasting the teams time.. Even a sane cap can make a wrong call at the beginning of a match, and he is doomed to spend ages getting to the place he is needed.

 

All in all, the colorado feels like an upgrade with amazing AA, yet it ssems like it is the last ship before themagic happens, hence, the amazing bbs from tier 8 and up.

 

My advice. AA all the way. If you are the lowest tier in a match, play as a AA plantform for the big guys. If you are top, then get in there and use those big guns! Dont hide and try to bore the enemy to death! Be the bear, slay those bunnies!!!

 

 

Dying in a blaze of glory is better than hiding and get your [edited]spanked at the end, or worse, contributing to another draw

[ilhilh]

Can anyone help me with both the unlock path and module choice?

 

I have just bought mine this morning and not actually played it yet.  I free EXP to B hull but not sure what to do next.  Do I go straight for C hull or will the extra speed help?

[JapLance]

Can anyone help me with both the unlock path and module choice?

 

I have just bought mine this morning and not actually played it yet.  I free EXP to B hull but not sure what to do next.  Do I go straight for C hull or will the extra speed help?

 

The first thing I did on any US battleship (up to Colorado in tier 7) is improving the engine (with freeXP if possible). 21 knots is already bad enough.

 

Then I get the hulls and leave the gun fire control for last (I usually mount the 16% extra range upgrade from the start).

[ilhilh]

 

The first thing I did on any US battleship (up to Colorado in tier 7) is improving the engine (with freeXP if possible). 21 knots is already bad enough.

 

Then I get the hulls and leave the gun fire control for last (I usually mount the 16% extra range upgrade from the start).

 

Thanks.  I'm still happy with free EXP the B hull after hearing so many gripes about the stock hull but the speed upgrade is relatively cheap experience wise so it makes sense I guess.

[heno]

The Colorado bar the lol Albany is hands down the worst ship I've driven in this game. I felt really at home with the New Mexico and had consistent good results in it. Thanks to the colorado's horrible spread its extremely underperforming. Close range enemy cruisers was easy meat in the New Mexico, in the Colorado I feel defenseless against anything that comes near me bar BB's, and get HP spammed to death fairly quickly. It's awsome at AA but I get only into games with carriers 3/10 and they usually fly long circles around me anyway.

 

Hopefully this ship will put me off this game alltogether so I'll stop sink my $$$ into it, lol

[GulvkluderGuld]

no, the most important thing is its low damage. ive been making some stats. since i had it (now i have some 50k exp on it) ive landed 1 citadel hit onBB. it was a tier 5 BB. with new mexico, i had always plenty. Today, i hit side of myoko with 7 AP shells at 4kms and i hit well.... guess what. 7 non penetrations. he laugth at me and teammates thouth im bot. this ship is so terrible i cant even find words to describe it. WG should compensate each player who had to play it... it really is just horror to play. and you have to to get to t8...

 

I hit a Furutaka 15 times amidships with this thing in my first match. Range about 10 km and down to 4 km in the end.

1k -2k damage pr hit. 

Are those 16'' shells just overpenetrating? Do any of you have this issue aswell.

New Mexico would do 3-5k if not citadel the FurryTaco if hit the same place.

 

At the time of writing my Colorado is in its third game, and I did use free XP to get the engine and first hull, so it is not completely stock. However, my initial impressions of it is very good. The AA can shoot down stuff better than the Nagato for sure, and it feels like it gives me more citadels than the New Mexico.

 

The HP and low speed is an issue though, more so the HP since you gain a bit more range and I have sort of gotten used to the speed. Will see if I am this pleased in a while though when the ship starts to "settle" in, but so far it is enjoyable.

 

What ships do you get citadels at? 

Are you having overpen or similiar to above issues?

[lBrutalos]

Try to learn the ship. I had the same issues at start, but the fact that it uses 16" cells makes it different from NM. You must aim differently. Under 13km this ship is brutal. It can actually one shot (salvo shot) all the CA's from tier VI and under.

[GulvkluderGuld]

Try to learn the ship. I had the same issues at start, but the fact that it uses 16" cells makes it different from NM. You must aim differently. Under 13km this ship is brutal. It can actually one shot (salvo shot) all the CA's from tier VI and under.

 

Expecting to need to do a certain amount of learning. However...I regularly oneshot CAs and even Clevelands in my NM. Both up close and 10-15 away. Dont have issues with aiming.

 

The problem seems to be the shells not causing citadels even on hitting the "right" places at close range.

[Karaya1]

 

Expecting to need to do a certain amount of learning. However...I regularly oneshot CAs and even Clevelands in my NM. Both up close and 10-15 away. Dont have issues with aiming.

 

The problem seems to be the shells not causing citadels even on hitting the "right" places at close range.

 

My best guess is that the bigger shells from the Colorado just overpenetrate.

[GulvkluderGuld]

Played a few more games on it and getting more used to its dispersion. Might have to eat my words and say even the A hull with engine and fire control upgrades is not so bad (except in the AA department).

 

Citadelling lower tier BBs and particularly New Yorks at 15 kms for 25k damage a salvo gets quite fun.

I also find it has no trouble with Clevelands and Pensacolas at any range. Guess the Furutaka must've been beginner's problems.

 

I got both the FC module and upgrade for a whopping 19 km range, and hitting BBs at that range isnt hard. Wiped out another Colorado from >15 away with 5-10k dmg salvos and the poor guy couldn't even shoot back.

When each salvo does 5-10k dmg, getting the range seems a very worthy pickup, although landing hits on cruisers is another story.

[Pokerjoker]

best BB in-game after the stealth Nerf to IJN BB's and CC's in patch 0.5.0.

[Bushpanther]

In my opinion the Colorado lacks speed and HP, and the guns lack accuracy and range. Not gonna say it's a bad ship, but it's just no fun to play. I'm seriously contemplating grinding this ship in PvE.

[ilhilh]

In my opinion the Colorado lacks speed and HP, and the guns lack accuracy and range. Not gonna say it's a bad ship, but it's just no fun to play. I'm seriously contemplating grinding this ship in PvE.

 

So making it take longer?

[Doomsdaybringer]

Have played a couple off games with this ship now, and with the second hull and engine upgrade and can say that this ship is a total disgrace. Everything thats floads is a danger to you, Getting ripped to bits by he shooting cruisers, whilst only getting a few shots of yourself before burning to the seabet, is totally being a xp-pinhata.

 

 

 

No speed, lower hp-pool then his predessor, no range and a shotgunspread for guns with lowpen. Not even talking about the reload and maneuverability. Torpedoebombers galore. This ship on tier 7 is purely there for freexp-ing aka WG cashcow. This is the businessmodel as with WOT. And for me the us bb-line grind stops here, Cant afford replacing all the broken keyboards from the wtf-moments this ships giving me...

Just my 2 cents on the matter. And excuses my bad english grammar.

 

 

 

 

Edit:

My rage with the Colorado has stopped, i understand the ship better now and she really can shine if you know her weaknesses and strenghts.(speaking of a full upgraded Colorado) Having good games with her now and even having fun at it. The minipatch has reallly helped this ship making her playable and even a real killer sometimes. Just dont snipe with her, this lady like is rough, so get in deep and she releases all her goodies...hammering the enemy. A true brawling lady.

 

[JocMeister]

Have played a couple off games with this ship now, and with the second hull and engine upgrade and can say that this ship is a total disgrace. Everything thats floads is a danger to you, Getting ripped to bits by he shooting cruisers, whilst only getting a few shots of yourself before burning to the seabet, is totally being a xp-pinhata.

 

 

 

No speed, lower hp-pool then his predessor, no range and a shotgunspread for guns with lowpen. Not even talking about the reload and maneuverability. Torpedoebombers galore. This ship on tier 7 is purely there for freexp-ing aka WG cashcow. This is the businessmodel as with WOT. And for me the us bb-line grind stops here, Cant afford replacing all the broken keyboards from the wtf-moments this ships giving me...

Just my 2 cents on the matter. And excuses my bad english grammar.

 

 

 

I actually don´t think its that bad. Pretty similar to the NM. You can have some bad battles of course but once in a while the RNG god gives you enough to keep it an interesting ship. That being said I´m probably going to free XP at least half the XP needed for the NC. 

 

Its a very slow grin as I´m only averaging around 1100-1200 EXP. The thought of doing around 100 battles in it....a little too much!

[ilhilh]

I had a horror start.  I had free EXP the first hull and thought I would grind the rest... but after 2 losses I sucked it up and spent my remaining free EXP on the propulsion.  Roll on another 3 losses.  The 3x helped me get the FCS and left me with only chasing the final hull upgrade.  I was still sporting far more losses than wins but slowly I have started getting used to her.

 

The most frustrating thing to me has to be her speed (well, lack of) and the range (again, lack of) that can be so frustrating to deal with.  And this is a complaint that I level at it after the slow NY and NM!  At tier VII you face a higher percentage of ships that can outrange you significantly.  I try my best to use cover and I am pretty adept at angling but sometimes you are just left sucking up damage trying to get to a point where you can pay them back.  The accuracy and low RoF can be added as further frustrations but I think they are not as bad as the speed/range.

 

But, now I am 16 games in with the C hull arriving after 13-14 games and I am doing better.  I am in danger of breaking 50% wr and my ave damage is heading up... but still is currently lower than I managed in the Kongo!  But the fact is this ship isn't as bad as people make out.  It is never going to be a great ship, but it is 'ok' and I'll just slowly plug away at it with my 1.5x dailies and using all of my Equal Speed Charlie London flags.  I won't be sorry to see her go but I feel like I can deal with her well enough until I get to the NC.

[JapLance]

I had a much harder time with pre-4.1 Furutaka than with Colorado. Never considered using the XP flags with this, but it's definitely not as funny as Kongo or Fuso. At least for me.

 

And at ranked battles, I've had much better results with New Mexico. Probably the 50% more guns is a factor.

[broja_jacra]

I created a Skin for the Colorado

I think it brings out the character of this vessel

[JocMeister]

Finally managed to get to the NC.

 

To be honest I didn´t find the Colorado THAT bad. I had saved up a lot of free XP though to get to the 2nd hull which I strongly recommend. Granted my average damage is 10k lower then it was in the NM. But hit ratio is just 1% off which indicates the Colorado guns aren´t much worse then the NM. I think its more that you have tougher opponents (god I´m tired of Tirpitzes) making less penetrating kills and less damage.

 

I had some really good games in it but also some REALLY bad, I played my elited Cleveland in parallel with the Colorado and once I got enough XP between them both I converted it to free XP. Ended up being about 50/50 between them to get the NC. I don´t think I could have stomached grinding another 60k XP in the Colorado....

 

Try to get into the thick of it. Angle and choose targets carefully and even Derpitzes will be wary when you approach. If you get within 10k of another BB the Colorado can be devastating. Clever use of the repair is also a must. AA is good but abysmal on the first hull. Its slow of course but so are all USN BBs up to the NC so I don´t understand why everyone is whining about the speed. Average ship that can on occasion be quite fun to play but certainly don´t belong in T7 which is I think its biggest problem.

 

Now I just have to find out if the NC lives up to the hype.

 

 

[GulvkluderGuld]

I created a Skin for the Colorado

I think it brings out the character of this vessel

 

Can other players see the skin? They can't right? I wish! 

 

JocMeister, on 26 September 2015 - 06:25 AM, said:

 But hit ratio is just 1% off which indicates the Colorado guns aren´t much worse then the NM. 

 

 Colorado (latreral) dispersion is actually exactly the same as NM.

I suspect the bad reputation of the colorado is due to it's the loss of the 3rd gun. 

[ArrNgee]

I think it's fine.. Needs to be played aggressive, but that's fine by me

 

No problems citadel-hitting big BBs

[LMN118]

To be honest I'm finding it terrible to play. The New Mexico was slow but had good armour and accurate guns. This things only redeeming feature is it's AA. 

[trrprrprr]

Ill join the side of those who like it. Ok its nothing special, but  its not a bad ship and as all OP ships is very situational.  Still hit % is same as in all my other BBs +- few %, ~2-5 citadel hits per game.  Only disadvantage to this tier 7 is its health pool and pretty low range , but even low speed and range isnt that big of a deal.  Sure japs are better performing as they can start to nuke everything from 20-25km range, but when Colorado gets in a range it performs as good as every other ship.

 

Sor HE maby true, maby only unlucky team rolls, as most time i get burned to death by few raining he cruisers.   Its AA is a beast when upgraded and in last hull, never b4 killed planes so fast

 

PS: Most here who dont like it or performs wery bad, just arnt made for USS BBs, or just cant learn to use it properly.

[zappori]

in CBT I played IJN line to izumo (cba to grind in it to yamato), and USN line to montana. All I can say is, USN line up to t8 ranges from terribad to mediocre. North Carolina is great ship, especially after Colorado. Iowa is [edited]awesome.

 

IJN line is fun, but damn that izumo...