MilkPowder Players 164 posts 3,500 battles Report post #1 Posted September 4, 2015 What a good ship! Why does everyone moan about it? Im having good fun in it, lots of one shot kills, lots of citadel hits. I was dreading leaving the New Mexico for this based on its reputation but im pleasantly surprised with its performance. Was it really bad in CBT or something? Even Jingles said the Colorado sucked at one point 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MASK] Madhax Beta Tester 35 posts 4,632 battles Report post #2 Posted September 4, 2015 It was bad in CBT, it is worse now. At least thats how it feels. Having fun you say? Hope it lasts 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Battledragon Beta Tester 615 posts 1,251 battles Report post #3 Posted September 4, 2015 There's nothing the Colorado does the Nagato doesn't do better apart from AA. It's kind of weird that at tier 7 the Japanese BB is stronger both at long range AND short range 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rvfharrier Weekend Tester 805 posts 4,630 battles Report post #4 Posted September 4, 2015 The Colorado is a very luck based ship (and I'm not even talking about RNG). If you get into the right situation it can be an absolute beast, the right situation being a brawl, but if you're unlucky enough to have no targets in front of you to shoot (very common if you happen to pick the wrong side on Two Brothers) then it's an utter misery. Nothing worse than chasing the game at 21 knots and being alive at the end with barely 20k damage. It just doesn't have the mobility or the sniping ability to perform reliably and you will have entire games where you might only fire your guns in anger a couple of times. Overall the Nagato is the better ship, but I do like my Colorado... when I don't hate it! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian1914 Beta Tester 300 posts 5,993 battles Report post #5 Posted September 4, 2015 Actually the Colorado benefited a little from an accuracy buff i think with the new patch, so overall it should be a better ship, especially if you go brawl with is as I think it should be played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SOCKS] RAMJB Players 790 posts 5,620 battles Report post #6 Posted September 5, 2015 I'm currently playing it. Unlocked engine, range and B hull thus far. I can see why people say it sucks. Objectivelly and comparativelly, it does: It compares terribly with the Nagato, a ship that's got it beaten in almost everything but AAA (and that only vs the final colorado hull, which I don't yet have). But I'm enjoying it nonetheless. Those guns are really powerful and they score much more citadels than the New Mexico's 14 inch guns. I do pretty well with it (statistically speaking better than with the new mexico by almost 5k average damage, and I liked the New Mexico a lot). Except for the win loss rate. I'm just cursed in both this ship and the Nagato, I swear I'm pitted with the most useless collection of random derps in my teams with this ships. But the ship itself I'm enjoying. It's certainly not the best ship on it's tier, is slow as heck, has a very limited HP budget (even more compared with the Nagato) but oh boy does it have teeth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puffadder Beta Tester 117 posts Report post #7 Posted September 5, 2015 Once you unlock and try the NC - you will realise just how much the Colorado sucks. US BB line doesn't get real exciting until tier 8 and up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DDLS] Naskoni Players 674 posts 1,234 battles Report post #8 Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) I found the Colorado to be absolutely dreadful in its stock configuration - a total PoS really. Fully upgraded with top hull and my best US captain in it it is average at best. 15000 or so less structure than its competition, 8 inaccurate guns with horrible reload times and a whopping 21 knots does not make for a lot of fun. It's AA isn't what it looks to be on paper if you get tier7+ carriers on the enemy team either. I'd much rather grind tier7 in my New Mexico instead, thank you very much. Edited September 5, 2015 by Naskoni 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SAP] T0rad Players 216 posts 2,054 battles Report post #9 Posted September 5, 2015 The Colorado is terrieble at aiming, but thats not whats bad about it. bad is its very low penetration of shells. i got way more citadels with new york on BBs. Fun citadels on cruisers. The biggest letdown of Colorado is its absolutely inefrior durabiilty while it being so slow and sluggish. Armour sucks, even 127mm guns will do TONS of damage, its 51k HP.... like... seriously? i wish i could just grind exp for NC with New mexico. Colorado needs to be removed from game. Its frustration factor is so high. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #10 Posted September 5, 2015 To me its a major step backwards even fully upgraded than the New Mexico Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyWorm Alpha Tester 3,274 posts 832 battles Report post #11 Posted September 7, 2015 Moved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAIFU] Karaya1 Beta Tester 211 posts 9,156 battles Report post #12 Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) The most important problem it has is its very low HP pool. After all the Nagato starts out stock with almost the same, but gains 16 (!!) k Health instead of 1k with the upgrades. Edited September 7, 2015 by Karaya1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SAP] T0rad Players 216 posts 2,054 battles Report post #13 Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) no, the most important thing is its low damage. ive been making some stats. since i had it (now i have some 50k exp on it) ive landed 1 citadel hit onBB. it was a tier 5 BB. with new mexico, i had always plenty. Today, i hit side of myoko with 7 AP shells at 4kms and i hit well.... guess what. 7 non penetrations. he laugth at me and teammates thouth im bot. this ship is so terrible i cant even find words to describe it. WG should compensate each player who had to play it... it really is just horror to play. and you have to to get to t8... Edited September 8, 2015 by T0rad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #14 Posted September 8, 2015 At the time of writing my Colorado is in its third game, and I did use free XP to get the engine and first hull, so it is not completely stock. However, my initial impressions of it is very good. The AA can shoot down stuff better than the Nagato for sure, and it feels like it gives me more citadels than the New Mexico. The HP and low speed is an issue though, more so the HP since you gain a bit more range and I have sort of gotten used to the speed. Will see if I am this pleased in a while though when the ship starts to "settle" in, but so far it is enjoyable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CU] jaurl Players 32 posts 9,620 battles Report post #15 Posted September 9, 2015 I would suggest fire your front two guns than the back guns you should find doing so will gain 2x amounts of citadels you're hitting in A match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] Origin47 Beta Tester 434 posts 10,684 battles Report post #16 Posted September 9, 2015 Even streamers do not waste too much time with this bucket of bolts. The 2 streamers I follow, both used free xp to skip some of the grinding for the Colorado: -Braincage: used free xp to unlock most of the modules and to skip around half of the rest of the grind; -iChase: used free xp for the modules and at the end of one stream he still needed to grind the Colorado, but at the start of his latest stream he has a fully upgraded North Carolina and with 5440xp on it; so yeah..... I am just gonna stop the line after i am finished with the New Mexico and wait for Wargaming to buff it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fysman Players 21 posts 7,250 battles Report post #17 Posted September 11, 2015 I just started the Colorado to NC grind, and frankly its bad, very bad. Dispersion is bad. HP is a joke, 3k less than New mexico(which i enjoyed!), clearly an overlook by wargaming or? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JocMeister Players 93 posts 1,301 battles Report post #18 Posted September 11, 2015 Only 15k from the Lolorado...I saved up 35k free XP to spend on to spend on it ASAP. Not looking forward to it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PKTZS] JapLance Weekend Tester 2,567 posts 18,265 battles Report post #19 Posted September 11, 2015 I started today with the Colorado, and was really scared due to the number of people complaining about it... So scared as to use my scarce +50% XP flags from the first battle. Great surprise, I didn't find it so terrible. At least not worse than all the rest of slow battleships that form the line up to tier 7. I hate slow battleships because you can't react to the events in the battle, and I've had to suffer that since South Carolina. but New Mexico at tier 6 felt better, and Colorado doesn't feel any different to me. One thing that puzzles me is, as have some people noticed in this thread before, the lack of punch versus equal or higher tier battleships. Even with apparently perfect hits, it's hard to score citadel penetrations. I expected more from 16in guns, which are supposed to be the only real improvement over New Mexico. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] Origin47 Beta Tester 434 posts 10,684 battles Report post #20 Posted September 12, 2015 iChase' Colorado review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e6OwifsLJ4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] St0ne_Monkey Players 29 posts Report post #21 Posted September 13, 2015 It's amazing, I love how it can get ripped apart by a Cleveland using AP in about 20-25 seconds. Seriously should cruiser AP rounds of a lower tier now mostly bounce. To take F'ing citadel hits is stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PKTZS] JapLance Weekend Tester 2,567 posts 18,265 battles Report post #22 Posted September 13, 2015 It's amazing, I love how it can get ripped apart by a Cleveland using AP in about 20-25 seconds. Seriously should cruiser AP rounds of a lower tier now mostly bounce. To take F'ing citadel hits is stupid. Replay please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_DHB_] ulsterandy Players 15 posts 17,054 battles Report post #23 Posted September 14, 2015 I have this floating brick so far what I have seen it is soooooooo slow to get anywhere and into action. At the moment I have the upgrade unlocked engine and range almost at Hull b. the range ingress helps as and when you find targets then it is hitting them and the reload time is the problem. 30 odd secs and in that time a clevland has hit you soo many times with HE you are in bits. Also trying to out run a pack of cruisers is no fun so just turn and head right to them trying to do as much damage as your reload lets you. I have found that team mates steam off at top speed leaving you behind and you are the target for all whilst they beat a haste retreat, or if there are aircraft you will be on your own as you have next to no AA and aircraft carrier players know this and again you are the target of choice because 9 times out of 10 you will be own your own so easy meat as you can not dodge or put up a good AA. When you get B/C hull might change. Be prepared to get a lot of "what are you doing there etc" way behind the team, comments. I think a lot of players forget how slooooow this brick is at turning etc. The 1,000,000 I spent on the turning up graded helps a lot. MM has put me into matches with T10 BBs not good, I hit a Yamamoto like 25 times with AP might has well throw peas at it one solve from it and like down to 20% health but it was fun. that is the point of this game HAVE FUN IT IS NOT REAL LIFE. Ho! and suck the pain till you get to T8 and sale it asap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SAP] T0rad Players 216 posts 2,054 battles Report post #24 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) You know they modified it right? after last mini patch it artilery rating grown from 62 to 82 i think (not sure about the numbers) but it got less then NM before, not it has almost NC values. ive also noticed increase in damage i do to other BBs. Fun started happenig. its still slow, armor is waker that grandpas bladder, but you can have good games with it. Last night i sunk two tirpitzes and Myoko to that. DO position youserl right, always max angle to your enemy. DO avoid getting too close to BBs. aim well and it will be good Edited September 14, 2015 by T0rad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K1NGS] lBrutalos Players 14 posts 15,704 battles Report post #25 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) You know they modified it right? after last mini patch it artilery rating grown from 62 to 82 i think (not sure about the numbers) but it got less then NM before, not it has almost NC values. ive also noticed increase in damage i do to other BBs. Fun started happenig. its still slow, armor is waker that grandpas bladder, but you can have good games with it. Last night i sunk two tirpitzes and Myoko to that. DO position youserl right, always max angle to your enemy. DO avoid getting too close to BBs. aim well and it will be good Thumbs up for that comment. I finally got the exp needed to get the NC but still miss the credits. And you know something... I dont want to sell this ship. I became fond of it at the time I finished the grind. Also after the patch indeed it hits harder. You must learn the way to play it. Try hitting without salvos from very far. Use salvos when u are close. Its cannons can now give some serious punches! Have patience, and this ship will reward you. My only complain is still its low HP pool. It should be much higher. Also when you research hull C your AA will shred enemy planes. Edited September 14, 2015 by brutalos_gr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites