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Well done WG, youve made CVs totally unplayable

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1st game since patch, got MM in my T6 CV with a T8 CV so the enemy had the same, guess whos planes the Two Tier higher CV went for? 5 mins in and ALL my AC shot down...

 

2nd game, EVERYTHING ELSE was shooting my planes down!! I had one entire Sdn shot down by a DESTROYER!!!! Tell me something, HOW am I supposed to play if I cant fly over or near anyone else?????? This means scouting is now totaly out of the question because as soon as AC are over anything now, they get slaughtered. 

 

In the second game I was lucky enough to ink a BB but that was all I could do, the next Tier up CV takes 74,000XP. Tell me HOW anyone is supposed to grind up to the higher CV levels now if youre lucky to make 800-1000 a game??? At this new level, i've got to play EIGHTY games to get to Tier 7, reasonable? I don't think so. 

 

If WG think this game is ready for full release in a couple of weeks with such an awful balance, they are being very silly.

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1st game since patch, got MM in my T6 CV with a T8 CV so the enemy had the same, guess whos planes the Two Tier higher CV went for? 5 mins in and ALL my AC shot down...

 

2nd game, EVERYTHING ELSE was shooting my planes down!! I had one entire Sdn shot down by a DESTROYER!!!! Tell me something, HOW am I supposed to play if I cant fly over or near anyone else?????? This means scouting is now totaly out of the question because as soon as AC are over anything now, they get slaughtered. 

 

In the second game I was lucky enough to ink a BB but that was all I could do, the next Tier up CV takes 74,000XP. Tell me HOW anyone is supposed to grind up to the higher CV levels now if youre lucky to make 800-1000 a game??? At this new level, i've got to play EIGHTY games to get to Tier 7, reasonable? I don't think so. 

 

If WG think this game is ready for full release in a couple of weeks with such an awful balance, they are being very silly.

 

80 games?

 

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Should just revert back most of the carrier changes to be honest, retarded way to 'balance' a game.

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Should just revert back most of the carrier changes to be honest, retarded way to 'balance' a game.

 

Agreed, now we all get shot down EQUALLY, wonderful. 

 

 

80 games?

 

 

... great, thanks for the VERY amusing picture to prove how clever you are!!! However, i'm sure that if you could only get 500 points from every game with any other class of ship, the size of your little instrument would be a bit bigger.
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They made the CV side more pre 0.3.1(sharana's own words)

 

What is it buddy? Are you going to whine everytime they make a class harder to play because they were overperforming? You know what? You probably dont know about pre 0.3.1 but it was beautiful. CVs werent overperforming like crazy. This is a good patch so far. No negative side.

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With only 17k average damage in Independance you are doing something wrong...

 

Do you just want to start a thread on every ship that wont let you get 9 kills per game? First it was the New Mexico that was terrible terrible and terrible...oh but then you had another game and it was all ok?!?!

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They made the CV side more pre 0.3.1(sharana's own words)

 

What is it buddy? Are you going to whine everytime they make a class harder to play because they were overperforming? You know what? You probably dont know about pre 0.3.1 but it was beautiful. CVs werent overperforming like crazy. This is a good patch so far. No negative side.

 

You're barely into the destroyer tree, let alone any others. How can you say the patch has nothing negative if you've not even experienced 10% of it.

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You're barely into the destroyer tree, let alone any others. How can you say the patch has nothing negative if you've not even experienced 10% of it.

 

i have a murmansk arkansas and 2 DDs. I dont have a CV but so far i didnt see any crazy thing.

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First, what is AC?

 

Second, think about the possibility you're a) having a bad day b) having a bad week c) just not doing well overall.

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First, what is AC?

 

Second, think about the possibility you're a) having a bad day b) having a bad week c) just not doing well overall.

 

AC aircraft

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Still better, why don't they remove them and let the real ships with guns and torps do the fighting

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Still better, why don't they remove them and let the real ships with guns and torps do the fighting

 

because CVs killed your "real ships" without too much effort
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with dd geting aa ability and bbs getting  AA  upgraded basicaly whole enemy side of map is now big AA blob and a deathtrap for any aircraft you send even at medium ranges 1 grid square away for more then 10-20 sec.

if there is a single cruiser nearby you can just return the planes and i did actually. now 2-4 torp hits and 4-8 db hits are average if you dont get unlucky .

treat map like there  every enemy ship is cleveland on the other half side of map.

 

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Wow you whining about gettting 1k per game? Well i guess you CV players are used to getting a shitloads more cause of easymode matches, Enjoy the pain! You think that the games were a BB, cruiser or whatevah gets killed within 5 mins of the match start because of torp focus gives them alot of exp?

 

Now you just have to play smarter!

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Carrier tears best tears.

 

I haven't played a lot since the patch, but CVs were overpowered and need to be reined in. If this patch is doing so, then good.

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because CVs killed your "real ships" without too much effort

 

Actually, massive effort. If you look at accuracy ratings on naval bombers, the effort they spent per sunk tonnage was enormous in comparison to many other ships. Their main advantage was extreme range of their force projection which was measured in hundreds of kilometers, not their efficiency. Which is why they look so ridiculously out of place in this game, where maps are barely 50km end to end. If carrier ever got into situation where it is in WoWS, it was a helpless, dead carrier because aircraft launching and replenishing took hours, meaning it was utterly incapable of combat at these ranges. When you spend most of your time with many tons of fuel and explosive ordnance sitting on your flight deck as you replenish and refuel your aircraft, a single HE shell detonating hundred meters away has a good chance of igniting the whole package and eviscerating your ship. Not to mention that you won't be able to make your aircraft take off and form up in time at those ranges.

 

Which is why CVs in this games are utterly silly with their ~10 second replenishment times instead of hours as they should be, while all other ships have realistic reload times.

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The rivers will run full with the tears of CV players!

 

Seriously, stop complaining that your overperforming death machine got nerfed. Win and damage rates were way too high for this class. So either get skill and adapt or stop playing the class. That's right ladies, it now requires effort to play CVs! The party is over.

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I'm glad they rebalanced the CV's. 

 

their usual steamrolling in games with almost no effort (little risk high reward IMO) will make the games more enjoyable now i hope :)

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Oh no a DD can actually defend it's self from planes, WG that is to OP i want to be able to instant cllick drop a nuke on his head because as a CV captain i hate DDs!

 

/sarcasm off

 

As a DD captain go for the BB and quit whining.

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i have a murmansk arkansas and 2 DDs. I dont have a CV but so far i didnt see any crazy thing.

 

How can you even comment if youve not played a CV?? I don't have any premium ships so it would seem a bit odd for me to comment on them on a thread!

 

As for those saying "yea, cv's getting nerfed is a good thing.." I have two things to say,

 

1. it a very interesting dynamic that makes the game three dimensional, those that can't deal with CV attacks can only play in 'tunnel vision' mode and I have no sympathy with those that get sunk by them. 

 

2. I can GUARANTEE that the majority of the above people who who complain about the enemy CVs are the SAME ONES who get on the online chat saying "I need an area spotted". A well played CV can tip the balance in your favor, you know damn well it can and they are a very large part of naval warefare in general. If this isn't re balanced soon, people will just stop playing them and then you'll be stuck with every game being a simple gamble, rather than a game bases on INTELLIGENCE, both that received from the CVs aircraft and that of the players who act on it. The next time your team splits in half on the Two Brothers map and your half runs into the entire other team's navy and gets blown to bits, remember how useful it would have been to have aircraft giving you some warning first.

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I still want to see tier 9 and 10 CVs nerfed, there are some players I want to see crying on forums.

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How can you even comment if youve not played a CV??

1. it a very interesting dynamic that makes the game three dimensional, those that can't deal with CV attacks can only play in 'tunnel vision' mode and I have no sympathy with those that get sunk by them. 

 

This 100 times over.

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