beani5003 Beta Tester 218 posts 4,196 battles Report post #1 Posted August 31, 2015 OK, I just watched the video preview of 0.4.1 http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/videos/video-041-overview/ now, can anyone honestly say that they are screwing over IJN? Destroyer nerfs, cruiser nerfs and messing with Aircraft carriers? Minikaze is not OP, its a glass cannon that if you give it a harsh look, its engine craps out. IJN cruisers suffer compared to USN in my experience, USN cruiser RoF is stupidly high. Then theirs the aircraft carrier changes, by that i mean the barrarge . . . . thing, USN carriers melt through IJN planes so quick you may as well back out of the match and play another ship, now they have added an ability to bring that firepower to all flights in a set area? Come on, not even WG are that stupid. Being able to do loads of damage to ships doesn't mean ANYTHING when your planes cant get to the ships because they are outclassed in every way by USN planes. Other than that, its an alright patch, but WG are tea bagging IJN players with it. 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KANE] Maizel Beta Tester 21 posts 6,010 battles Report post #2 Posted August 31, 2015 The IJN cruiser nerf did seem unnecessary to me. Minikaze is far from ruined, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #3 Posted August 31, 2015 Minikaze is not OP, its a glass cannon that if you give it a harsh look, its engine craps out. that made me laugh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI-Z] xCaptainObviousx Weekend Tester 1,244 posts Report post #4 Posted August 31, 2015 Minikaze is not OP, its a glass cannon that if you give it a harsh look, its engine craps out. You mean unlike every other DD in the game? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GGGC] Alighierian Players 70 posts 10,664 battles Report post #5 Posted August 31, 2015 I actually started using the base torps when I found out they'd remove the top ones. Stupidly enough, I do better with it now than I did with the 10km torps. Sure, I miss due to stuff out of range, but if I do ambush stuff or rushing and such, the extra speed the base torps have is really good. Along with that I tried to keep at least 6.1km away from targets, and whilst it is rather hard to get good situations where you can use your torps without being spotted (and get hits), the minekaze is still very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beani5003 Beta Tester 218 posts 4,196 battles Report post #6 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) You mean unlike every other DD in the game? no, every DD in the game is like that, that is why DD's aren't OP, the second they are spotted, they are gone. but the main problem I have is with the CV's they are making it massively one sided. Edited August 31, 2015 by beani5003 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #7 Posted August 31, 2015 Then you'll also realise they are buffing the Furutaka, and that the fighter ability means IJN carriers can dump a large portion of their ammo on the US fighters in a very short space of time, thus killing them off without a protracted dogfight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beani5003 Beta Tester 218 posts 4,196 battles Report post #8 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Then you'll also realise they are buffing the Furutaka, and that the fighter ability means IJN carriers can dump a large portion of their ammo on the US fighters in a very short space of time, thus killing them off without a protracted dogfight and how many fighters can 4 or even 8 planes in 1 or 2 flights get though with one use of the ability? 6? 7? even thats not enough, as there will still be enough left over to wipe the floor with you. Edited August 31, 2015 by beani5003 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PORT] Atris2nd Beta Tester 333 posts 6,438 battles Report post #9 Posted August 31, 2015 I'm actually really looking forward to playing IJN CVs now. I'm a fan of their fighters, screw the US. And they seem like they'll be better than ever with the variety they're getting. Aircraft surfacing time increase is a bit of a downer but eh, being able to pump out a squad every 10 seconds was a bit BS. Maybe it'll motivate CV drivers to move with the battle, rather than camp at the map with quick servicing times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fi_8_8_8_8 Beta Tester 279 posts 2,318 battles Report post #10 Posted August 31, 2015 How about giving the update a shot before you start raging about it?? i know change is difficult for a lot of people, but it's gonna come and will (hopefully) improve the game. Since that's the developer's goal. So settle down. It'll be as fine as it is now..some ships slightly easier to play than others. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackobite Beta Tester 46 posts 4,887 battles Report post #11 Posted August 31, 2015 The minekazi isnt op? lol that must be why I didnt sell mine and play it everyday. Minekazi is way OP and I suggest that you know this. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #12 Posted August 31, 2015 and how many fighters can 4 or even 8 planes in 1 or 2 flights get though with one use of the ability? 6? 7? even thats not enough, as there will still be enough left over to wipe the floor with you. since they only have 6 planes in a squadron, then yes that's enough to kill a squadron. Try the US CV if you think they're that great - I tried both flavours and find the IJN both easier and better, at least at low tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #13 Posted August 31, 2015 If any of those crying now would have bothered to play at the three dates the testserver for 0.4.1 was open for everyone, there would at least have been the chance for getting son constructive posts. As it seems, nobody has... I played 0.4.1 there and for me, the changes seem to work out pretty well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_NBT_] Hidoc Players 14 posts 3,377 battles Report post #14 Posted August 31, 2015 I just do not understand why buffing the omaha, he is already the best tier V cruiser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #15 Posted August 31, 2015 I just do not understand why buffing the omaha, he is already the best tier V cruiser They could buff the Omaha, or nerf the Murmansk to not be strictly better in nearly every way. And every entitled child would be crying their eyes out if their favourite premium pet was put in line with other ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KptStrzyga Beta Tester 4,868 posts 5,014 battles Report post #16 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) I just do not understand why buffing the omaha, he is already the best tier V cruiser Because she was worse that her sister "soviet balanced" Murmansk. Regular ship can`t be worse than premium equivalent. Edited August 31, 2015 by KptStrzyga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PORT] Atris2nd Beta Tester 333 posts 6,438 battles Report post #17 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Well, not really. Murmansk was better historically so uhh.. yeaaaaah, you could say they could've skipped out on buffing the Omaha entirely and they'd be perfectly justified since the Murmansk is essentially an upgraded Omaha. I mean, Omaha still a good ship. Making it on par with the Murmansk means that you now have a non-premium Murmansk. Happiness! I'd still take Furutaka over both of them just cause she can sink them in one salvo and has the best torpedoes of the bunch and is overall more fun to play than the left-click spam machines. I just have the Murmansk cause it makes more money while requiring very little brainpower to play. And the red hue looks sexy. Points for style. Edited August 31, 2015 by Atris2nd 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] black_falcon120 Beta Tester 1,693 posts 4,658 battles Report post #18 Posted August 31, 2015 I did not know the IJN had a fire bonuse on HE O,O, so it seems like Jap Cruisers are going to lose their one defining feature over US cruisers (I refuse to view their torps as being as useful of the RoF). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #19 Posted August 31, 2015 The minekazi isnt op? lol that must be why I didnt sell mine and play it everyday. Minekazi is way OP and I suggest that you know this. The reload is a bit high, but she's not that OP, no. Other DDs just suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #20 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) I did not know the IJN had a fire bonuse on HE O,O, so it seems like Jap Cruisers are going to lose their one defining feature over US cruisers (I refuse to view their torps as being as useful of the RoF). On PT server, IJN cruisers actually got fire chance buff, while BBs and DDs got a nerf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXYHvuy5o5Q Edited August 31, 2015 by Takeda92 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Battledragon Beta Tester 615 posts 1,251 battles Report post #21 Posted August 31, 2015 Today, I sank two Baltimores in the same battle with my Myoko, at higher tiers IJN cruisers are superior. Yes Myoko's getting a rof nerf, but tbh it is kind of op atm, it's a tier 7 better dpm than the tier 9 Ibuki right now. I'm not happy about the Mogami turret nerf though. Seems Mogami is going to be the new Furutaka? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interdiction Beta Tester 274 posts 13,524 battles Report post #22 Posted August 31, 2015 Nerf anything that I have spent time and money on and I will vote with my feet ......You simply cannot keep moving the goal posts People who have these ships that are soon to feel the nerf bat need to be Either compensated for the xp they put into it OR let them keep their ships the way they PAID for them Nerf any premium and I will be wanting a refund ..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #23 Posted August 31, 2015 Nerf any premium and I will be wanting a refund ..... They said they will do anything to avoid nerfing premiums. If they nerf my premium ship i will ask for a refund too. ITs probably legal at this point to ask a refund. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inAbag Beta Tester 221 posts 676 battles Report post #24 Posted August 31, 2015 The reload is a bit high, but she's not that OP, no. Other DDs just suck. You DD players actually believe this don't you? So funny. Minekaze is overpowered, that's why the rest seems like it sucks. The Minekaze spoils you which makes the rest of the DDs seem like crap because it is an invisible ICBM launcher with intercontinental range (for tier 5). Guess what, WG just hammered you back to earth and now you actually have to work for your kills instead of launching your torps from a comfy 8 km range every time. Your favorite ship has just been rebalanced to the level of requiring thinking, welcome to the club! The same goes to the Mogamis which could HE spam like crazy and burn and explode everything to death with their fires. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #25 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) You DD players actually believe this don't you? So funny. Minekaze is overpowered, that's why the rest seems like it sucks. The Minekaze spoils you which makes the rest of the DDs seem like crap because it is an invisible ICBM launcher with intercontinental range (for tier 5). Guess what, WG just hammered you back to earth and now you actually have to work for your kills instead of launching your torps from a comfy 8 km range every time. Your favorite ship has just been rebalanced to the level of requiring thinking, welcome to the club! The same goes to the Mogamis which could HE spam like crazy and burn and explode everything to death with their fires. you know there are people who actually think you are trolling. Let me make tihs more clear for you Average stats of DDs are pretty low. But you know bs talk isnt hard here. Edit: i play minekaze with 7km torps not 10km ones but still you know its not hard to bs talk around here Edited August 31, 2015 by Userext 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites